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2. November 2008 @ 19:41 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I'm new to DVDFab. But have been using it for a couple of months and have never ran into a dvd I couldn't backup unitl tonight when I tried to backup Phenomenon-1996. It even shows a scrambled pic in the preview prior to trying to back it up. Is there a forum for issues with DVDFAB like this, or is there some dvd's which DVDFAB can't backup? Thank you for the help.
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2. November 2008 @ 20:12 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I do not use Fab frequently, but I have it and have on occasion. I have never heard of DVD that can't be ultimately back up with Fab. It might take an update but eventually it can be done, Same with AnyDVD. Is there anyone out there who has ultimately failed and given up on any movie??? Is the disc you're baking up clean and void of scratches? Haven't heard of the movie? You may also have a bad press of the original dvd. Can you rip it? What you trying to compress it with? Does the disc play in a dvd player especially where it was scramble on the dvd preview?


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2. November 2008 @ 20:30 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
This movie can be backed up with any ripper. If you can't rip this, you most likely have a bad disc.

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2. November 2008 @ 22:51 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by dialysis1:
Originally posted by dr_ml422:
I just finished posting when you posted the newer updated Fab plat. Just curious, does the free higher one come out 1st before the same paid version? You posted the free one w/the higher number on the 30th. Newer full paid version but same number now. Thnx.
I'm not sure what you're talking about. I just post them as I find them.
@ 7thsinger and dialysis: Maybe's it's just a coincidence that you posted the higher number simple free version 1st and then 7th posted the paid platinum version. Just wondering if the free version is updated b4 the paid version by DVDFab and then they post the platinum version that's all. Thnx.
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3. November 2008 @ 06:49 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by dialysis1:
This movie can be backed up with any ripper. If you can't rip this, you most likely have a bad disc.
indeed, i used DVD Shrink on it's lonesome long ago for this movie.

Originally posted by dr_ml422:
@ 7thsinger and dialysis: Maybe's it's just a coincidence that you posted the higher number simple free version 1st and then 7th posted the paid platinum version. Just wondering if the free version is updated b4 the paid version by DVDFab and then they post the platinum version that's all. Thnx.
it's one and the same version now, both free and paid in the file you download. For instance i'm using a new machine at the moment, i installed DVDFab on here and i get this screen -




For some reason my Platinum code isn't recognised on this machine so i can only use DVDFab as trial and i can also use Fab as just the free version as per the screenshot. It just so happens that i only want to use the free version on this machine anyhow, but my point is that the exe file you download acts as both the free and paid versions.



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3. November 2008 @ 08:03 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Creaky, what I did when I installed dvdfab on my new computer, instead of cutting and pasting the code into the box, I installed the trial version first. Once done, I went to where I had saved the email with the key and attachment at, and installed the attachment. Next time I started dvdfab, it showed the paid version.

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3. November 2008 @ 08:15 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
That's exactly what i did, the exe file you download is Platinum trial/Gold trial and the freebie decrypter all rolled into one, so if someone hasn't purchased Platinum the exe file acts as a 30 day trial and a freebie decrypter in the one program file; if you have a purchased code then you enter the code and the same exact exe file then becomes a Platinum version.

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03/11/2008 13:10 7,320,080 DVDFab5110.exe
01/11/2008 13:29 7,320,080 DVDFab5110_avangate-689.exe
2 File(s) 14,640,160 bytes
0 Dir(s) 92,883,996,672 bytes free
edited for spelling so made my journey useful for dr_ml422 by comparing the 2 exe files you can get from DVDab - they're the same file..



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3. November 2008 @ 11:46 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by creaky:
That's exactly what i did, the exe file you download is Platinum trial/Gold trial and the freebie decrypter all rolled into one, so if someone hasn't purchased Platinum the exe file acts as a 30 day trial and a freebie decrypter in the one program file; if you have a purchased code then you enter the code and the same exact exe file then becomes a Platinum version.

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03/11/2008 13:10 7,320,080 DVDFab5110.exe
01/11/2008 13:29 7,320,080 DVDFab5110_avangate-689.exe
2 File(s) 14,640,160 bytes
0 Dir(s) 92,883,996,672 bytes free
edited for spelling so made my journey useful for dr_ml422 by comparing the 2 exe files you can get from DVDab - they're the same file..
What I did was install the new updated one w/the key first, then went and installed the free version of hd, but added an _1 to the file path w/a new folder. I could of changed the file path altogether, but that's ok cause it'll run the file anyway. I checked off a quick launch for the keyed copy, and created a desktop shortcut for the _1 version. That way I could use either one if I want to. I'll post back and definitely say if that works. It did before in previous versions.
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3. November 2008 @ 23:44 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by dr_ml422:
Originally posted by creaky:
That's exactly what i did, the exe file you download is Platinum trial/Gold trial and the freebie decrypter all rolled into one, so if someone hasn't purchased Platinum the exe file acts as a 30 day trial and a freebie decrypter in the one program file; if you have a purchased code then you enter the code and the same exact exe file then becomes a Platinum version.

Quote:
03/11/2008 13:10 7,320,080 DVDFab5110.exe
01/11/2008 13:29 7,320,080 DVDFab5110_avangate-689.exe
2 File(s) 14,640,160 bytes
0 Dir(s) 92,883,996,672 bytes free
edited for spelling so made my journey useful for dr_ml422 by comparing the 2 exe files you can get from DVDab - they're the same file..
What I did was install the new updated one w/the key first, then went and installed the free version of hd, but added an _1 to the file path w/a new folder. I could of changed the file path altogether, but that's ok cause it'll run the file anyway. I checked off a quick launch for the keyed copy, and created a desktop shortcut for the _1 version. That way I could use either one if I want to. I'll post back and definitely say if that works. It did before in previous versions.
No it didn't come through creaky. The paid version over rides the free version and automatically replaces it. Guess I'd have to use the free version on another pc like you are now w/out putting in the key. i like having both myself. I'll get to DVD rebuilder one day. Using Shrink now when ripping whole dvd and need to encode and burn w/ImgBurn.

@ ferguj1: Seems like they fixed that audio stream and subpicture issue I was having in the latest version. I put Hostel in and unchecked all the audios except the ac3 5.1 and it stood checked and fixed w/the green arrow. I left the subpicture as it came out w/the english checked automatically and double clicked to see if it would uncheck it but it wouldn't. So that's good because it'll just give me the option to use the English subtitles should I need to.

I also shaded the checked caption blue by clicking on it and then tried the double click in the corner to see if it would uncheck and clear everything. It cleared the blue which is good because if it hadn't it would copy the subtitles on the copy. The check stood so that the option to use the subtitle would be there should I want to use it.
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4. November 2008 @ 04:27 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by dr_ml422:
No it didn't come through creaky. The paid version over rides the free version and automatically replaces it. Guess I'd have to use the free version on another pc like you are now w/out putting in the key.
i don't see your problem though... if you've paid for Platinum just install and enter your key, then just use Fab as a decrypter, there's nothing different in the ripping code between the free and paid after all...



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4. November 2008 @ 07:21 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
You're right. Silly me. I forgot I could just decrypt and back up the entire disc in dvd-9 mode, then use w/e to encode and burn. So use to doing the decrypting and encoding w/Fab I totally forgot my options. Thnx for reminding me. Lol...
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12. November 2008 @ 19:18 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
@Creaky,

1) yes to the ifo's to Ting/fengtao
2) I believe the not making sense is making sense in that the scattered hard encryptions are making the backing up community on edge as to if the big releases will be possible to be backed up successfully. Also If a big encryption renders a stand alone dvd player inoperative on a big release, boy is the consuming public gonna be mad, whereas if the movie studios screw up a lesser release, only a little profit is down the drain, if you follow. Lesser releases become guinea pigs for tougher encryption models to be used on big releases in the near future.
Hi bonehead. i tried searching for any info on stand alones being rendered inoperative as i forgot where exactly i 1st read it, which was here in your post. is this specifically geared towards new dvds and /or cds like creaky stated also? i'm mainly concerned about dvds. Also has there been any instances of ripped dvds rendering a stand alone player inoperative? my friend sent his player back twice, and i'm not sure if it was the ripped disc itself, or the format on the ripped disc. i tried some verbatim 16x dvd+rs for the 1st time and really not sure if it was the bitset on them or w/e that might have caused it to not work. that or just a bad batch of players from the plant which could also happen. i use tys mostly so that's why i ask.

i'd appreciate any pull up on this as always. thnx.
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13. November 2008 @ 07:54 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I would doubt that a company like Sony would cripple it's own brand of dvd player if it played a copied disc. That would just about kill their business when word got out. They could care less what kind of disc you're playing just so it's a Sony that's doing it.


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14. November 2008 @ 05:40 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
DVDFab 5.1.1.5 Beta is out (November 14, 2008):

http://www.dvdfab.com/download/DVDFab5115Beta_avangate-689.exe

What's New:

5.1.1.5 Beta (November 14, 2008)
New: Updated VSO burning engine.
New: Updated language files.
New: Some minor improvements.
Fix: UOPs protection is not removed completely when using "Main Movie" mode.


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14. November 2008 @ 08:39 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
As usual, thanks for keeping us updated.

Wonder if this is a 'fix' for the upcoming Wall*E?


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14. November 2008 @ 13:09 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by garmoon:
I would doubt that a company like Sony would cripple it's own brand of dvd player if it played a copied disc. That would just about kill their business when word got out. They could care less what kind of disc you're playing just so it's a Sony that's doing it.
thnx for replying garmoon. it's well noted though that sony's a bit picky to what goes into their players. whether it has to do w/formats or not i don't know. they're very strict on completely readable discs also. not like others that will read about just everything unless totally messed up. if copied discs won't pose any problems or shouldn't then why the issue of lesser known new videos rendering a player inoperable as opposed to newer releases was mentioned at all? is this a statement of fact that it has happened w/new discs? i would suppose so being bonehead posted it has.

many players are choosy to different type media and brands also. that's been well documented. so sony's in that category no matter what.
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14. November 2008 @ 17:22 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I give away many +R booktyped DVD_Rom discs on varied media-mostly Office Depot and anything I got as presents- to friends when they give me their discs to backup. They all have different dvd players. I rarely check them after burning and I bet I have only had to do 2 over in several years.


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thnx garmoon. i just needed xtra info/confirmation so as to reassure my friend that it's not the discs always and not to get too bothered about getting a player from a bad batch. it happens w/everything once in a while. i know about office max. they have some good sales every now and then. mostly the verbs. i'm going to have to hit office depot more often.
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14. November 2008 @ 21:35 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
dr_ml42

glad to help. Joe Ryan has convinced me that most media out there is not bad. So if I get CMC Mags from someone I use them. I'll use anything that after a burn will play in the friend's burner he uses. I reserve the TYs and Verbs for myself. There's bad media that's cheap and excellent media that can be bought cheap. Just read the Sunday ads and/or follow the online sales that members post.


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14. November 2008 @ 22:47 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Yeah i got you. only bad batch i used were hps. their cds are not bad but dvd blanks forget about it. although i heard some hps by cmc mag and other brands by cmc mag weren't that bad either. most of the time it's a crap shoot. i've only tried the dvd+r verbs and i liked them. bitsetting is fine and they're quicker in the lead in. have you tried the ty dvd+rs? if so i guess you can count them in as quality as the dvd-rs correct? thnx.
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IMHO the +R TY T02s X8 were the best media ever made. I still have about 200 of "my precious" left. I got them by buying the Sony X8 +Rs which were made in Japan by TY and usually on sale for $15 a 50 stack 2 or 3 years ago. I probably used 800 so far.


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15. November 2008 @ 21:33 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I understand. you came across the ty dvd+rs thru sony as ty made them. so the ty dvd+rs now shouldn't be that bad right? the verbs are ok. i'm still yet to try the ricoh or prodisc that supermedia has. usually they have the tape wrap which i don't care for as usually they'll come broken. also wth would you store them after opening up. so i stick w/the spindles or cake boxes. what's your take on the white printable discs whether tys or not in cake or spindle? do they get yellow after a while? i personally been sticking w/their shiny silver thermal brand, and now they have some new even stronger discs that they just posted. those look interesting.
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16. November 2008 @ 01:38 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I haven't tried any of the TY +R X16 since i have so many of the X8 TY TO2s. Those plus the Verbatim +R 004 X16 and anything +R Office depot X16 are the discs I am using now and have no issues with them.


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I too have had excellent luck with Office Depot +R 4.7x16. In fact, I can't say that I've had much trouble with *any* 4.7x16. It's DL that's the crapshoot. Quality from spindle to spindle is unpredictable among the brands I've tried.

A separate issue: As a matter of policy, I try to keep compression at 80% and above going from DL to SL. However, I've gone down as low as 67% and noticed absolutely no degredation, no artifacts, nothing. I'm beginning to theorize that the reason why is because I'm playing the vid back exclusively on the computer, on my HP 2207. If I were to play back on a big widescreen TV I might notice information loss. That is, the information I am losing is not information being used at 1680x1050. What do you think about that? At 67% I should be losing 1/3 of the recorded information. Or is recompression just that efficient? Is interpolation involved at display-time? I noticed in the specifications for an NVidia 9400GT, that the claim was made that the card was able to "provide" non-existent information based on a real-time analysis of the video stream. Anybody have any experience with this?
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16. November 2008 @ 21:59 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
@garmoon When you said anything +R Home Depot are you referring to their own brand? I got thrown off there a bit and thought you meant buying different media at Home Depot.

@Mor How could you tell something's missing if everything seems ok, and the info is not being sent to 1680 x 1050? My Acer Monitor is 1680 x 1050, though I haven't seen any videos on here. Have to put in MPC or Quick Time Alternative n check it out. Though the graphics on the screen and from the web are great. I have a ATI Radeon HD 2600XT 512MB IceQ Turbo which I still haven't pushed to its full potential.

As far as your quality being great even at 67%, it prolly has to do more w/the proggie you're using to compress, and a lil of your card as well. DVDFab just updated their Platinum to get better compression and clean up the discs more thoroughly also.

creaky uses DVD Rebuilder and seems to get excellent quality from it as well. Shrink hasn't been updated so I guess it's still good for compression, but even better w/speed. I myself have been watching some backed up flics lately and have been very pleased w/how they appear on my TV set, and it's a Sony but analog.
 
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