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lazylad
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9. July 2005 @ 21:05 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
how powerful is the newest graphic card rite now? yea, the ps3 has that chip, expect is literally twice as good! i wonder how much it'll cost...


how powerful is the newest graphic card rite now? yea, the ps3 has a n expensive, expect is literally twice as good! i wonder how much it'll cost...

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14. July 2005 @ 10:37 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
There is alot of info out there for you. Just search the web for the specs at a reputable gaming site. The GPU is called the RSX, it is made by nVidia. 1.8TFLOPS claim 256MB GDDR3 550MHz, look fo rmore on the web.

Fanboy is a term used to describe someone who is utterly devoted to a single subject. This generally is followed by the devotion and support even when proved wrong.

Anecdotal, by my definition, it's the way too many people here think. It's also all the evidence you have.

Xbox 360 GT: NEGATIVE 273K

My advice: Wait for PS3.
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14. July 2005 @ 10:42 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
It's supposedly even better than 3 GeForce 6800 Ultras combined (God knows I paid enough for just one). So I'm sure its comparable to 3 GeForce 7800s. Either way Sony is losing a lot of money in the beginning because that's a whole lot of power. I love you Sony.

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3 7800s is pushing it. Actually in the Sony conference at E3 They said it was like two of the 6800s. I don't think the RSX will be a 900 Million transistor card, but it definitely can match the overall power of two 6800s.

Fanboy is a term used to describe someone who is utterly devoted to a single subject. This generally is followed by the devotion and support even when proved wrong.

Anecdotal, by my definition, it's the way too many people here think. It's also all the evidence you have.

Xbox 360 GT: NEGATIVE 273K

My advice: Wait for PS3.
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14. July 2005 @ 14:25 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I guess only time will tell. I've heard some crazy stories and claims. I'm sure it will be amazing in the end regardless.

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26. July 2005 @ 00:34 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Card?, WTF are they making this thing a PC or a gaming console?, it was just a GPU on mobo before like the PS2 has it next to the EE CPU. Looks like they're makin em to be a compsole, but.. why?.

V9 PS2 scph-50002, SM 3.6
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Actually it is going to be a computer. The optional HDD will have an unspecified version (New, because nothing current will run on the Cell) of Linux pre-loaded. The PS3 will have every facet of a PC. The Xbox 360 so far has no word on it's plans for the 20GB included HDD. The Xbox 360 is going to run software to rip CDs and do media streaming from your PC, but it looks like MS got left in the dust and is looking at a straight console. They probally could decide to put windows on it if they wanted.

Fanboy is a term used to describe someone who is utterly devoted to a single subject. This generally is followed by the devotion and support even when proved wrong.

Anecdotal, by my definition, it's the way too many people here think. It's also all the evidence you have.

Xbox 360 GT: NEGATIVE 273K

My advice: Wait for PS3.
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27. July 2005 @ 21:26 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hey i'd be awsome if you could then use the ps3 to play your PC games instead of on the pc. Probably would be alot more fun and alot easier and comfortable.

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I love controllers over a stinking keyboard, the mouse is nice though it works good.

Fanboy is a term used to describe someone who is utterly devoted to a single subject. This generally is followed by the devotion and support even when proved wrong.

Anecdotal, by my definition, it's the way too many people here think. It's also all the evidence you have.

Xbox 360 GT: NEGATIVE 273K

My advice: Wait for PS3.
cheeher
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19. November 2005 @ 17:51 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
i heard that ps3's graphics are better than xbox360. is it true?
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yes. Graphics chip runs at 550 mhz and xbox 360 runs at 500mhz
even tho x box 360 runs at 3 cores each at 3. ghz, ps3 chip runs at 7 cell 3.2 ghz. The difference between core and cell is that core is more powerful, but since the ps3 has 7 of them, 2cells equil more power than 1 core. Which means ps3 will run faster have better grapcics than the x box360 and revolution.

Other people think that because xbox 360 has 48 pipelines, it will procsess faster than ps3. Gamespot is guessing that ps3 only has 24 pipelines, because ps3 is afraid to show thow many it has beacuse people think that the greater the number the greater the concol.
wrong. When you compair two systems, pipeline doesnot matter expesially since ps3 specs dont show how strong their pipelines are going to be. Have this for example. Two same sized pipes with water flowing in. And there is one other pipeline with 3x ammount of pressure. The one pipe will get more water out because of its pressure even tho it is comparring to two other pipes. Bad example but ok..

ps3:GPU-24 pipelines producing 5.7 ops each
-700mhz ram.
-On par with geforce 7800
-rsx at 550mhz
-rsx is 1.8 tflops
ps3:CPU-Cell processor
-total of 8 spe's running at 3.2 ghz.
Cell is 218GFLOPS.


Computer Hp pavilion a700n
448 mb of ram(upgrading it to 1gb)
amd3000+
(going to have geforce 7800 soon)
Currently(a shitty intergrated via/s3)

Information about ps3's rsx is on:
http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/265429
Information about The xbox360 and ps3's gpu
http://www.anandtech.com/printarticle.aspx?i=2423


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cheeher
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i'm with you on that!
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I Also have to note that the Ps3 Nvidia rsx, (ps3 gpu) is still under development. The e3 ps3 confrence is just to show you what it wil be cabable of. Obviosly if tis still in develepmont, ps3 gpu will go way up since they havnt realeased anything since may 16 2005. This will make the ps3 gpu possibally have more pipelines thatn the 360, not that that matters. Or they will just equil.

ps3:GPU-24 pipelines producing 5.7 ops each
-700mhz ram.
-On par with geforce 7800
-rsx at 550mhz
-rsx is 1.8 tflops
ps3:CPU-Cell processor
-total of 8 spe's running at 3.2 ghz.
Cell is 218GFLOPS.


Computer Hp pavilion a700n
448 mb of ram(upgrading it to 1gb)
amd3000+
(going to have geforce 7800 soon)
Currently(a shitty intergrated via/s3)

Information about ps3's rsx is on:
http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/265429
Information about The xbox360 and ps3's gpu
http://www.anandtech.com/printarticle.aspx?i=2423


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21. November 2005 @ 13:35 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
it wont be *quite* as good as the 360's GPU (dont assume that because something costs more it is better, it depends on the retailer and the cost of the manufacturing process)
360 GPU has 48 pipelines compared to RSX's 24 (Half!!) and it has its unified sharder achitecture, the vertex and pixel pipelines are no more (there as one) which is gr8 and gives better performance than having them seperate (like all PC cards and like the RSX has), it has better features and although it has a lower clock speed, all i said above make it better overall providing better looking images and better framerates than the RSX (not by a great amound though), and its brill ATI only adaptive anti-aliasing, which is brill.
360 has won the GPU chip war.

and kookoo, as i said in my other post in 360 forum, it wont have more pipelines, they have to make the real thing now, to be the same as the advanced proto-type that they had, learn about manufacturing, and processes more, and the way business make it work and what they do.

Don't judge the consoles by specs, more isnt always better, espec in PS3 specs.i know the truth, ask if u wanna know.......

Do not compete without valid correct technicality on your terms of the argument.

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But on the website i showed you on gamespot on the xbox 360 specs thread said taht it doesnt really matter how many pipelines it has.
http://hardware.gamespot.com/Story-ST-x-1985-x-x-x

Im not going to debate this anymore after this,till ps3 and revolution comes out. To make it easier ill just copy paste from gamespot.
Apples to Apples on Graphics?
The Xbox 360's ATI graphics core also throws a wrench into our graphics comparison since it uses a new-fangled Unified Shader Architecture that mixes up pixel- and vertex-pipelines and makes comparison to older video card technology very difficult. The Xbox 360 graphics core may have 48-pipelines, but we don't know how powerful they are compared to dedicated pixel and vertex pipelines.

The PlayStation 3 has a pretty strong Nvidia graphics processor, but you can see how Sony may be afraid of the specification sheet comparison by the pipeline number conveniently omitted from the PS3 graphics specifications. We're guessing that the RSX graphics processors has a traditional, non-unified shader engine, so it likely has a smaller total "pipeline" number than the ATI chip. Even if the RSX's normal pipelines are more powerful than the Xbox 360's pipes, Sony doesn't want to risk printing a lower "pipeline" number since people won't understand that it isn't an apples-to-apples comparison.

So how many traditional pipelines does the RSX have? Sony has revealed that the RSX GPU has a 550MHz core clock and has over 300 million transistors. Sony has also stated that the chip is more powerful than two GeForce 6800 Ultra cards put together. Your first guess might be that Nvidia simply doubled the pipeline number on the 6800 Ultra to make the RSX, but you also have to remember that the Ultra only clocked in at 400MHz. If the "double" performance measurement is based on fill-rate performance rather than hardware, the clock speed increase up to 550MHz is clear sign that the hardware improvement isn't from a pure doubling of pipelines. We're guessing that the actual pipeline count is going to be at 24, which is about right for 300 million transistors and, at 550MHz, has just a slightly larger fill-rate than two GeForce 6800 Ultras clocked at 400MHz. Since the GeForce Ultra had 6 vertex pipelines, the RSX likely has 6 more vertex pipes in addition to the 24 pixel pipelines.

notice they say that they are (guessing) that ps3 has 24 pipelines even tho ps3 havnt told us how many it has.

Notice it also sais "Even if the RSX's normal pipelines are more powerful than the Xbox 360's pipes, Sony doesn't want to risk printing a lower ...pipeline... number since people won't understand that it isn't an apples-to-apples comparison.
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Even if the RSX's normal pipelines are more powerful than the Xbox 360's pipes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)you cant compair the # of pipelines cause it does not matter.
the point im trying to prove is:

The normal rsx is not used on ps3, the new ones are used which means the pipes are even stronger. EX. if ps3 s one pipeline is tiwce as strong as xbox360 pipline and ps3 has 24 and xbox 360 has 48, the will still equil

Anywayas not mucch to compair, i kinda thinky ou wont be able to see difference in graphics on both systems.

The pipelines will have nothing to compair with the two systems.
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360 GPU has 48 pipelines compared to RSX's 24 (Half!!) and it has its unified sharder achitecture, the vertex and pixel pipelines are no more (there as one) which is gr8 and gives better performance than having them seperate (like all PC cards and like the RSX has), it has better features and although it has a lower clock speed, all i said above make it better overall providing better looking images and better framerates than the RSX
As you said above taht xbox360 has more piplines which will make it gr8er performance in grapghihcs, you cant use that to compair.It will not make the graphcis compair better or worse, only the future can tell us what is to come.

DONT matter anymore, both systems are awsome. shit i made long post again=[
TruthMan, as you told me b4, please read carefully, i dont want you to thin k what i am saying is a peice of crap.

unified sharder achitecture for xbox360 is better tahn ps3 s only by 5%.

ps3:GPU-24 pipelines producing 5.7 ops each
-700mhz ram.
-On par with geforce 7800
-rsx at 550mhz
-rsx is 1.8 tflops
ps3:CPU-Cell processor
-total of 8 spe's running at 3.2 ghz.
Cell is 218GFLOPS.


Computer Hp pavilion a700n
448 mb of ram(upgrading it to 1gb)
amd3000+
(going to have geforce 7800 soon)
Currently(a shitty intergrated via/s3)

Information about ps3's rsx is on:
http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/265429
Information about The xbox360 and ps3's gpu
http://www.anandtech.com/printarticle.aspx?i=2423


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TruthMan
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kookoo, man if pipelines didnt matter then why do better newer generation PC GPU's have more pipelines, and all reviews do tests, and there better.
take the ATI Sapphire GTO2 - it has 12 pipelines and 4 are disabled, you can bois flash it and unlock them (so you got 16), and that alone gives like a 25-30% performance increase without overclocking. Custom PC (shown in the mag - issue 27 tried and tested it), that website you posted to show us *again!* is very very biased to the PS3, one of the most biased ones that i have seen. swear down it is, thats why i chose my name, because i just want everyone to know the truth about the PS3 and its supporting websites (like that one you posted kookoo, altohugh its not a proper PS3 support website, it is clearly biased to the PS3 A LOT), I HAVE READ SHIT loads of websites, and nearly all of them are biased towards the PS3 and they all say it is more powerful, but really im telling you this like i would to a mate, really dude it truly isn't as powerful as the xbox 360.
the 360's power has been clouded, by biased PS3 reviews and the specs and all sony fans blurting about the stats etc. so people dont know how powerful it is (those who dont know anything about technology in consoles/pc's)
if someone knows about this tech, and knows what games need to get good framerates then they will find out if they look properly that the 360 is infact the most powerful of the rwo, and obviously sony keep saying that there PS3 will be more powerful (obviously), when really it int. sony are so wrong.
They should just go back to making TV's which there good at

Don't judge the consoles by specs, more isnt always better, espec in PS3 specs.i know the truth, ask if u wanna know.......

Do not compete without valid correct technicality on your terms of the argument.

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OMG u still not getting that pipeline means nothing! Ok lets use this example. NVIDIA GeForce 7800 GTX, the futere of computer graphichs has less than 48 pipelines. But the NVIDIA GeForce 7800 GTX is more powerfull than the xbox ATI. ps3 uses nvidea rsx. Nvidea states that the NVIDIA GeForce 7800 GTX has only a slightly higher power than the new chip thats is goign on the ps3. WEll now, the NVIDIA GeForce 7800 GTX has less pipeline than xboxes ati, but yet it will produce way more than xbox's360 ati. Even tho xbox's360 has 48 pipelines the NVIDIA GeForce 7800 GTX has arround 24, as said on there website. Now then, NVIDIA GeForce 7800 GTX has slightly better graphics than the ps3, the two are verysimilar. The box360 is going to bewo0rse than the NVIDIA GeForce 7800 GTX .remember that the ps3 dont use he NVIDIA GeForce 7800 GTX

This is to prove that PIPELINES DONT MATTER IF THEY ARE WEEK.
Have another example. There is and electricity soarce of somekind. It has 48 pipelines. The transfering of the electricty soarce stays the same always. The pipelines lead to another soarce, all the pipelines. NOw we have another soarce with 24 pipelines leadding to another soarce with the same ammount that the 48 can transfer. The electrysity soarce ahs to share the electricity soarce beteween the pipelines, so that all are equil , same goes with the 24 and 48 pipeline. When the ele tricity is produced, there is still the same ammount of elecrticity from both electricity soarces.
that was confuesing.. lets use this example then. You suck juice from one straw. And somone else uses two straws to suck another can of juiece/. The one straw alone sucks more juice tahn one straw what is sharing through 2 straws. The speed of who will finish the juice will be the same, unless one sucks more than the other..lmao The ps3, has more speed to transfer graphics , which is why it has 550 mhz, and why the xbox 360 ony has 500mhz. not much difference. NOt includint that the xbox 360 is has still weaker pipe lines.

Thesed two examples can be used with your theory of pipelines.

Thats not the point, the real point i was trtying to prove was about the NVIDIA GeForce 7800 GTX ,whihc is slightly more pwererful than ps3's card, but more powerfull than the xboxes grapghic card thing. Im not going to repeat my self, but since the pss3 uses talmos the same card, it will be more powerfull than the ATI.
And also the website is not b iased. If you concider Biased to be untrue. The websiste si telling truth. The website is just showing the proof. If you think other handly, howbout you go tell gamespot that instead of arguing with me.

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thats why i chose my name, because i just want everyone to know the truth about the PS3 and its supporting websites

Your name sais dont jude a concol by its specs. As you see you have, with the 48 pipeline Theory. And what, "you know the truth" how in the word do you know the truth, were you an enginier for ps3 and xbox 360, how in the world do "you kno the truth?"Have ouve finished university and gone to masters studdying computers?" You got no facts, all you said was based on your oppinion, WHICH IS very biased.!

and by the way Sony did not say there processor is stronger, Other websites such as Websites on Gamespot and other websites said that (professionals), who work at these sights, and dont say they were writen by some lk 12 ear old, wtf? how can a 12 year old write a article on these two sstems and post it on (GAMESPOT!). ? gamesopt is wone of the bests websites about these things. "DONT judge a concol on its specs" the ps3 is more powerfull than the xbox 360, by the way.

ALSO NOTE: Nvideas chips Rely on floating point precision through the entire rendering pipeline,HMM , ps3 has higher floating performence than the xbox360, which makes the ps3s pipelines stronger than the 48 pipelines taht xbox360 since nvideas power of the pipelin rely on floating point. the nvidia rsx better than xbox 360 ATI.


ps3:GPU-24 pipelines producing 5.7 ops each
-700mhz ram.
-On par with geforce 7800
-rsx at 550mhz
-rsx is 1.8 tflops
ps3:CPU-Cell processor
-total of 8 spe's running at 3.2 ghz.
Cell is 218GFLOPS.


Computer Hp pavilion a700n
448 mb of ram(upgrading it to 1gb)
amd3000+
(going to have geforce 7800 soon)
Currently(a shitty intergrated via/s3)

Information about ps3's rsx is on:
http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/265429
Information about The xbox360 and ps3's gpu
http://www.anandtech.com/printarticle.aspx?i=2423


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One of the points gamespot says is that you can't compare because it's not apples to apples.
Neither is the processor.

I guarantee you that Xbox's CPU is weaker, but it's GPU is more powerful.

Don't base everything off of one article, kookoo. Especially one that was written 6 months ago.
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uhh it says that the gpu " Sony doesn't want to risk printing a lower "pipeline" number since people won't understand that it isn't an apples-to-apples comparison. " So you cant compair pipeline to the actual graphics. Which as we were talking above was only aboout GPU not power.

the processor you can compair, its as easy as p3 and p4. Processors are there to compair. GPU is completly different. This is about ps3 graphihcs dont bring up cpu.

OFFROME, change you r name dude, everything was written 6 months ago. All I remmeber that somone wrote somthing based from website from when they thaught xbiox 360 has 4cores at 3.45ghz. Nothing really has changed on ps3 today. AS the truth guys stated, nothing will change about the ps3 gpu, but only they can apply stuff to it.

ps3:GPU-24 pipelines producing 5.7 ops each
-700mhz ram.
-On par with geforce 7800
-rsx at 550mhz
-rsx is 1.8 tflops
ps3:CPU-Cell processor
-total of 8 spe's running at 3.2 ghz.
Cell is 218GFLOPS.


Computer Hp pavilion a700n
448 mb of ram(upgrading it to 1gb)
amd3000+
(going to have geforce 7800 soon)
Currently(a shitty intergrated via/s3)

Information about ps3's rsx is on:
http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/265429
Information about The xbox360 and ps3's gpu
http://www.anandtech.com/printarticle.aspx?i=2423


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first of all u guys do know that the x360 games are only running at 30% power
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One of the points gamespot says is that you can't compare because it's not apples to apples.
Neither is the processor.
great point. its hard to tell what system will be more powerful each system is dominate in some catagory of specs. but seriously something is going to have to change because the ps3s processor melts so we may see certain specs that were promised suddenly dissapear from the papers
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Dude i dont think its melting they wont change it, theyll fix it,game develeposr are already making games for theysystem, to late to change the cpu now.

Remember they annowneced the specs at e3? I think the chip use to be meltion, not anymore. IF you can give me the website you got that from, please post it, kinda intresting to know if its still meltiong or not.

ps3:GPU-24 pipelines producing 5.7 ops each
-700mhz ram.
-On par with geforce 7800
-rsx at 550mhz
-rsx is 1.8 tflops
ps3:CPU-Cell processor
-total of 8 spe's running at 3.2 ghz.
Cell is 218GFLOPS.


Computer Hp pavilion a700n
448 mb of ram(upgrading it to 1gb)
amd3000+
(going to have geforce 7800 soon)
Currently(a shitty intergrated via/s3)

Information about ps3's rsx is on:
http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/265429
Information about The xbox360 and ps3's gpu
http://www.anandtech.com/printarticle.aspx?i=2423


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cheeher
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i'm lost.
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*grumbles*, kookoo, prepare for lots of lectures.

ok i admit you know a *little* but not much more than that.

the 7800GTX is the YOUNGER BROTHER of the RSX which is LOTS MORE POWERFUL THAN THE 7800GTX (which will probably make you happy).

the ATI GPU in the xbox is flamin ancient and sucks ass and hasnt got many pipelines and shitty clockspeeds, features and memory speed (compared to todays GOU's), NO WONDER 7800GTX is way faster as its on of the best cards out today. the xbox gpu is like 5-6 years old.
note that the standard ATI X1800XT (brand new, out end of nov.) is faster than the standard 256mb 7800GTX (even the overclocked 7800GTX's).
and both X1800XT and 7800GTX are YOUNGER BROTHERS of the console counterparts.

DIDNT YOU SEE WHAT I SAID ABOUT PIPELINES IN ANY OTHER POSTS, JESUS YOU ARE ONE HYPOCRIT.
MY ATI GTO2 EXAMPLE (READ IT AGAIN, IN MY LAST POST) SHOULD HAVE BEEN ENOUGH. THERE ARE NO SUCH THINGS AS WEAK AND POWERFUL PIPELINES, FFS. THEY ARE JUST PARTS OF THE CARD.

AND also, WHATS THE MOST IMPORTANT COMPONENT IN A PC/CONSOLE FOR RUNNING GAMES IS IT A) THE GRAPHICS PROCESSING UNIT (GPU) OR 2) THE CENTRAL PROCESSING UNIT (PROCESSOR)

IF YOU DONT KNOW THIS THEN GO BACK TO NEVER NEVER LAND.
I TRIED TO BE NICE BUT UR LAST POST (AFTER MINE) WAS VERY HOSTILE, SO RIGHT BACK AT YA.


THE ANSWER TO the question is A. its the GPU. so even IF the PS3 has the best CPU (which it wont, but many seem to think that it is) the 360 will have better images, better looking and sharper graphics when running a game, and better framerates and rendering. mmwhaaaaa.
if you didn't know that then u picked a war with the wrong guy.

you dont know sh*t about GPU's compared to what you think.
you even thought that the RSX was weaker than the 7800GTX, WTF, TOTALLY WRONG (as i already said above). the X1800XT is better than the 7800GTX and the new ATI card (in the 360) is very darn powerful.
better than the RSX.

ATI cards have always beaten nvidia cards when it comes to image quality, i know that for a solid darn fact, so if they got better image quality and better fgramerate (more power) then nvidia have LOST the GPU war.
although the GTX IS VERY FKING POWERFUL ITSELF (regardless of it been the weaker one)and will blaze through all of the newest games for the PS3.
once multi threaded games are made, then all 3 360's cores can kick in and the PS3's SPE's and they can boost performance by a lot.
currently games are single threaded therefore only 1 core is being used to power games and tell the GPU what to do, and because for 360 its only 1 3.2GHZ core the CPU will be a really big bottleneck, limiting the GPU of its potential (the same will be for PS3), this will only be solved when multi-threaded games are out, so all of the cores can tell the GPU what to do at once, (and render the physics beter in the game) and it can run at its peak effiency (the GPU that is).

READ ALL OF THAT!!!





Don't judge the consoles by specs, more isnt always better, espec in PS3 specs.i know the truth, ask if u wanna know.......

Do not compete without valid correct technicality on your terms of the argument.
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23. November 2005 @ 08:54 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Look, my point was not to base everything off of one damn article. Stop worrying about my name and start worrying about being taken for a ride every time you go to a website.
OH LOOK AT ME! I can find a website that proves you wrong with a lot more analysis than your beloved gamespot article:

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/617/617951p1.html

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Don't base everything off of one article, kookoo. Especially one that was written 6 months ago.

wtf? you expect me not to care? wtf are you talking about, Was i soppose to say nothign to taht?? wtf are u thinking? Mabey you should know that everything was based 6 months ago w. the ps3

LMAo, that website was when the xbox360 was suppose to have 4cores at 3.5 ghz. And wtf i didnt base it off everyartle, all them sais the same thing.
Look what the new ign ones have to say

If you are so smart, why you only saying shit about me, and not debating?

thetruth man.:PIPELINES DO NOT MATTER!

hf
And why you brinign CPU in this conversation??its graphics!

im not going to debate this shit anymore, you can say w.e you want , your still wrong
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I HAVE READ SHIT loads of websites, and nearly all of them are biased towards the PS3 and they all say it is more powerful, but really im telling you this like i would to a mate, really dude it truly isn't as powerful as the xbox 360.


Your telling me that ps3 cpu aint stronger than xbox360? So if you said that Grass is red, I am suppose to believe you? Where are your facts if every page you went to tottaly said that ps3 cpu is stronger than ps3.?
lmao, howabout you go to many of those websites and tell them off if you are so "smart" Oh mabey you should of mad eaa website aswell, since you know, you know more than g.s's journalists.Are you a Jernalist?. You are a person, not an engenier of ps3 or the xbox360. You wouldnt know. fuck. Get over it, everyone knows that ps3's cpu ios way stronger than xbox 360 cpu. IM not goignt o debate over the gpu anymore because you are just goign to post the same thing over and over. PIPELINE DONT MATTER.expecially if they are weak.

dude, i suggest you watch both xbox 360 se3 and ps3 e3 thing, then read this article.
http://www.gamespot.com/news/2005/06/22/news_6128031.html

ps3:GPU-24 pipelines producing 5.7 ops each
-700mhz ram.
-On par with geforce 7800
-rsx at 550mhz
-rsx is 1.8 tflops
ps3:CPU-Cell processor
-total of 8 spe's running at 3.2 ghz.
Cell is 218GFLOPS.


Computer Hp pavilion a700n
448 mb of ram(upgrading it to 1gb)
amd3000+
(going to have geforce 7800 soon)
Currently(a shitty intergrated via/s3)

Information about ps3's rsx is on:
http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/265429
Information about The xbox360 and ps3's gpu
http://www.anandtech.com/printarticle.aspx?i=2423


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