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Neph's POLITE Gun Debate
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PacMan777
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23. July 2007 @ 09:48 |
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You're welcome. As you can see, the silencer is legal in most states once a person has gained a permit through BATF. I'm not sure if building one gets a person by the high federal fee or not. As I mentioned before, the high fee and lengthy process stops many people. If I wanted a silencer, it would be easier for me than a lot of people. I already have a CCDW license. I'd just have to go by the sheriffs office, get the 2 fingerprint cards done and send in the $200, about 97.25 GBP. The silencer I'd like to own costs about $650 US. So, to own a professionally built silencer I'd need to invest about $850. That's not counting the cost of having the barrel threaded. It's too cost prohibitive for me.
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gerry1
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23. July 2007 @ 09:57 |
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@Pac and pulsar ... I almost hate to ask but for what reason do you want silencers? It isn't necessary if you're going to shoot a thief in your home and they detract from your weapon's accuracy (at least they use to). Have we put in a job application with the mafia or perhaps the CIA? Probably not the CIA, I think the gun is built into your shoe or something of the sort LOL!
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PacMan777
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23. July 2007 @ 10:33 |
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Gerry
The professionally built silencers allow for excellent accuracy. The "homemade" versions that allow the bullet to contact the baffling is what leads to poor accuracy.
If I was wanting to join a "hit" squad, I sure wouldn't want the gun and silencer licensed.
In parts of the UK, where silencers are more accepted, it's a matter of noise. You can shoot all day and not disturb the neighbors. There's the land qualification to own a firearm, but the land is often in close proximity to someone else, unless you're lucky enough to be rich and inherit an estate.
As a courtesy to my neighbors, I don't shoot early in the mornings. Most often I take my shooting to the range or out in the country. I can shoot safely on my property and it's not illegal. However, I know how I feel when I hear heavy caliber firearms going off nearby. I'm hoping it isn't a drunk and I don't get a round through the wall. So far, it seems I'm the only one to shoot very much in this neighborhood and I've limited it.
As to why I would like a silencer... coyotes. Most places have a bounty on them and they're starting to become a real nuisance in my area. Besides injuring and killing livestock, they've started coming into yards and killing family pets. With the silencer on a good varmint gun, pfft and they're gone. That way I wouldn't have to worry about disturbing the neighbors and I could probably get more than one coyote at a time. Loud reports send them running. Nothing so exotic as a CIA or Mafia hit squad. ;)
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23. July 2007 @ 11:19 |
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Neat stuff Pac. Do you need a permit for coyote extermination. I believe you need a permit to exterminate Nutria here which have become a real nuisance. Beavers (rats) with orange teeth.
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PacMan777
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23. July 2007 @ 13:01 |
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No permits needed, at least not in these parts. On privately owned land, a person doesn't even need a hunting license. There's a bounty on coyotes, so a person can pick up a few bucks to help pay for the ammo. Too bad the cost of the hardware is so high. A silencer would only make the task easier. It's population control. I don't think there's any fear of exterminating the critters. PETA doesn't even try to take up for coyotes. If they did, all the opposition would have to do is show some of the mangled livestock and a coyote killing a poor little lamb. Coyotes are ruthless pack hunters and there have been reported attacks on humans. Children are usually the prey due to their smaller size.
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23. July 2007 @ 13:39 |
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Do you know how to cook a coyote? They know how to cook Nutia here! Yum!
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gerry1
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23. July 2007 @ 18:24 |
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What is a Nutia ... sounds like a cell phone company!
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23. July 2007 @ 18:33 |
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Copyright infringement is nothing more than civil disobedience to a bad set of laws. Lets renegotiate them.
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PacMan777
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23. July 2007 @ 20:04 |
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Originally posted by garmoon:
Pac
Do you know how to cook a coyote? They know how to cook Nutia here! Yum!
Rats and dogs aren't a regional delicacy. ;) Luckily nutria aren't much of a problem here. If the wife saw a 15 pound rat in the house, she'd freak. I know they're not rats, but if it looks like a rat and walks like a rat, to the wife it's a rat. If one of those got in the house, I could buy any kind of gun I want. LOL The wife would start carrying my 12 guage semi-auto from room to room.
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24. July 2007 @ 03:49 |
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@geryy
It was a misspell, should have been NUTRIA.
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1. September 2007 @ 11:41 |
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1. Shiny new, high-powered deer rifle.............. $1,200.00
2. Quality, high-powered scope........................ $ 550.00
3. Bore sighting device..................................... $ 140.00
4. Forgetting to remove the bore sighting device prior to shooting?
Priceless!
In Darwin's book, the score is:
Deer 1
Hunter 0
GAME OVER
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1. September 2007 @ 14:12 |
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As my dad would have said to me if I had done that, You dumb S%#T
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1. September 2007 @ 18:21 |
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Still love the story of the guy I went to high school with, bought a new scope for his 30-06, fitted the scope on, tried working the bolt, moved it around a little, tried putting a round in to see how it chambered and ejected, did this a couple of times, then was happy how it worked, looked thru the scope, played around with the focus and the parallax adjustment, forgot about the live round in the chamber and pulled the trigger, scored a direct hit on a can of red enamel paint. Range like 15 feet, total paint spray everywhere. His mom thought he had shot himself.
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2. September 2007 @ 01:35 |
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Originally posted by blivetNC:
Still love the story of the guy I went to high school with, bought a new scope for his 30-06, fitted the scope on, tried working the bolt, moved it around a little, tried putting a round in to see how it chambered and ejected, did this a couple of times, then was happy how it worked, looked thru the scope, played around with the focus and the parallax adjustment, forgot about the live round in the chamber and pulled the trigger, scored a direct hit on a can of red enamel paint. Range like 15 feet, total paint spray everywhere. His mom thought he had shot himself.
LOL. Classic x)
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PacMan777
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2. September 2007 @ 16:23 |
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Sounds like the day a hose popped in the shop and I was running red dye through an AC system. The stuff was blood red. I squalled like a banshee because I was xxx (upset to say the least). The boss thought I'd killed myself and was ready to do the job once he found I hadn't. Funny, he loaned me a 30-06 with a scope to go on my first big deer hunt. No deer, but great fun. LOL
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2. September 2007 @ 19:02 |
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i believe this video is a fake, but it stands as good evidence nevertheless.
http://www.break.com/index/red_neck_bmw_road_rage.html
i will be getting my concealed carry as soon as i turn 23. and i'll never be without my weapon, save in government institutions and public schools.
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2. September 2007 @ 19:30 |
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Take a picture of your toes, you may need it someday.
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Auslander
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2. September 2007 @ 20:33 |
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don't trust me with a weapon, blivet?
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3. September 2007 @ 01:49 |
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Originally posted by Auslander:
i believe this video is a fake, but it stands as good evidence nevertheless.
http://www.break.com/index/red_neck_bmw_road_rage.html
i will be getting my concealed carry as soon as i turn 23. and i'll never be without my weapon, save in government institutions and public schools.
Still looking at the Glock?
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Auslander
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3. September 2007 @ 07:06 |
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...maybe >.>
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gerry1
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3. September 2007 @ 07:38 |
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Take a picture of your toes, you may need it someday.
LMAO!!!
I thought of you guys last week. In celebration of Philly's 300th murder, there was an anti gun rally in from of my building. (I should keep a little cheapie digital camera on hand). They sheduled in to be in front of a rather large gun shop but had to stay fifty feet from the front door.
A smart business man who owns this gun shop. You need to go to my building to get licenses so this guy set up a huge gun shop across the street selling guns and police equipment.
The cops have two floors of my building. A couple of years ago, we had this mentally ill nutcase waving around a gun and screaming in our front lobby. My boss ran upstairs to get the cops and they told him to call 911!!! LMAO!
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3. September 2007 @ 10:14 |
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Originally posted by Auslander:
...maybe >.>
You know you want it, and now you have your job back, you can save up for it :-P
x)
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Auslander
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3. September 2007 @ 12:01 |
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...your logic is undeniable.
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3. September 2007 @ 12:05 |
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I know, I don't talk crap all the time Brandon ;-)
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15. October 2007 @ 21:31 |
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Whoo I found the gun thread.
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