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Ultimate RROD Thread
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11. February 2009 @ 15:00 |
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wow using paper or cardboard in electronic internals isnt a good idea. it could mess with the grounding of case to the mobo or cause an ESD shock potentially. the odds of it happening are low but still putting stuff like that in ur 360 isnt a good idea. and the pieces of paper can become compressed over time which would cause the pressure they are applying to disapate and then u have rrod again. not to mention if those cards shift and become out of place. also if u put regular screws on the heatsink without any type of washer inbewteen then then odds are that uneven pressure is being applied to the heatsink. and why did u have to solder anything... fixing rrod shouldnt require that at all.
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DrJackel
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11. February 2009 @ 15:36 |
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i know all that :P
point is it worked, its mainly a temp fix to see if it would work, im not worried about grounding because i didnt change any contact points... there is a slight overheat problem that i just fixed using my dremel to make a hole in the top metal plate and soldering it to the same psu im using for the fans on my plasma tv (one of the originals that have a bad problem of overheating)
i just like doing things to see if it will work.. after i round up some parts laying around to replace the card paper im going to put the 360 mobo in a random computer case ... but it works..
besides im not worrying about ruining it.. i got it free i have another one on the shelf and im getting yet another one from a friend lol
i get bored
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11. February 2009 @ 16:17 |
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how does soldering a power supply to the 360 resolve any overheating issues? is there a fan attached to the other end of this psu that is also attached to the 360?
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11. February 2009 @ 16:50 |
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Stealth you have to read more carefully
Originally posted by DrJackel:
... im also using a cutup rca a/v cable , soldered the leads to the pins on the botton of the mobo so i didnt mess up the plug and using a computer psu i had laying around
It sounds like he just wanted to improvise (didn't have xbox 360 av or power cords). Other than that I don't see any reason why you would solder a rca connection, but i can see why you'd solder the psu connection.
Anyway good luck with the paper/cardboard fix. I don't see this going very well at all (people have problems with nylon and steel washers...and now you want to use paper/cardstock).
I just want to mention that if that cardstock got hot enough it could start a fire. Remember it takes a good 430F to melt that lead free solder microsoft uses. So you know it at least gets that hot in some conditions and now you want to put a flamable material in the xbox?
I guess all i have to say is good luck, buy some good home owners insurance while you're at it.
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11. February 2009 @ 16:56 |
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yea i read that but i dont see how he could mess up the plug by just doing the rrod fix? it just seems over the top to me
but yea u are right i bet that card stock will catch on fire at some point. especially since it is most likely blocking the airflow under the board and will cause even more heat to build up
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DrJackel
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11. February 2009 @ 17:57 |
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yeah i thought i mentioned that i didnt have actual xbox av cables or a power brick and thats why i soldered wires straight to the bottom of the mobo
anyway i just watched a movie as a test... runs fairly cool so im not too worried about overheating at the moment but when i find something better then cardpaper laying around.. ill work on it some more
i just laugh alittle inside that it actually worked
the reason i posted my cardpaper fix was ingenuity goes pretty far.. dont limit yourself to everything everyone else has done
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11. February 2009 @ 18:12 |
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ok that makes perfect sense now that i know you dont have real cables. i thought u were just doing it for the hell of it lol. its all good
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joevxx
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29. March 2009 @ 21:36 |
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hey i have the RRoD secondary error 0001 is there anyway to fix this? or can i only send my psu in. (i voided my 360 warranty)
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29. March 2009 @ 21:50 |
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Originally posted by joevxx:
hey i have the RRoD secondary error 0001 is there anyway to fix this? or can i only send my psu in. (i voided my 360 warranty)
just cause you got 0001 doesn't mean your psu is bad. try borrowing a friends to see if it works. Sometimes the xbox will show an 0001 when there is a short on the mobo. this short will overcurrent the psu and trip it. because the psu trips off the 12v supply but the 5v standby power sometimes remains you are able to retrieve a 0001 code. some people report fixes of bad transistors,vr's, or even shorted caps.
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joevxx
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29. March 2009 @ 23:54 |
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is it fixable
ill find someone to fix it for me.
all i did was tap a heat sink to the mobo in the front then i got rrod
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joevxx
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29. March 2009 @ 23:59 |
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Originally posted by joevxx:
is it fixable
ill find someone to fix it for me.
all i did was tap a heat sink to the mobo in the front then i got rrod
plus, when i turn on my xbox the power led turns red for about 1 second and turns yellow, while on my screen my xbox is turned off not
i cant even hear the dvd drive
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asrgames
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1. April 2009 @ 00:41 |
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I used X-Clamp fix and it worked but it freezes after an hour of playing turn it off and back on, no RROD but it still freezes.
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1. April 2009 @ 01:12 |
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Use a penny wrapped in electrical tape with poster puddy on each ram chip on the bottom of the board. I usually use the puddy ms has on the bottom of the board already and just replace the pink band-aid like material with a penny. After you've done that put the heatsinks back on and overheat the xbox just cooling the cpu. Sometimes i let it go until the xbox shuts itself off.
If you get a 0010 that means your screws are too tight or you're flexing the board too much.
After overheating let the xbox cool down all the way and then test with halo 3 for a couple hours. Usually if you can make it though the first 2 levels in halo 3 the xbox will be fine. You can also load a custom game with a lot of explosives and just blow up everything you can.
Let me know how your fix goes
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eggman14
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10. April 2009 @ 17:33 |
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hello,
i have error e73 and secondary 1021.i was wondering does anyone have a fix for this??i have xclamped it and reflowed it but no joy.
it happened after flashing benq with iextreme 1.51
cheers
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joevxx
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10. April 2009 @ 17:42 |
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you guys are stupid i said error 0001
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23. May 2009 @ 10:22 |
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Originally posted by joevxx:
you guys are stupid i said error 0001
right... moving along.
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ddp
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23. May 2009 @ 12:56 |
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joevxx, watch the attitude & don't double post like what you did here.
joevxx (Newbie) 29. March 2009 @ 23:54
joevxx (Newbie) 29. March 2009 @ 23:59
use this icon 
to the right of your post to edit your previous post.
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chris4160
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9. August 2009 @ 01:37 |
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Originally posted by eggman14:
hello,
i have error e73 and secondary 1021.i was wondering does anyone have a fix for this??i have xclamped it and reflowed it but no joy.
it happened after flashing benq with iextreme 1.51
cheers
Sorry to bump 2 old similar threads. But I have that same problem, has anybody fixed it before?
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16. October 2009 @ 12:00 |
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Fan Shroud Mod
All credit goes to RBJTech for this, basically the tunnel that directs air from the fans to the GPU and CPU is flawed, and it doesn't distribute air that evenly. This simple mod fixes that.
http://rbjtech.bulldoghome.com/pages/rbj...com/Xbox360.htm
this link does not work, can you please check.
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ddp
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16. October 2009 @ 13:38 |
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homepage supposedly not uploaded tho site is activated. just wait & see with that link.
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funktion
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7. December 2009 @ 23:17 |
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Just would like to add my two cents. I did the x clamp replacement/fix and after heating it for 20 mins, got 3 ring error. After some reading, I found a posting regarding the tightness of the bolts on the cpu. I loosened my screws on the cpu heatsink slightly and voila, got my 360 working again. I also added some thermal paste to the chips under the gpu heatsink. hope this helps someone. I had the 0020 error code. thanks to all who contributed to the collective 360 repair knowledge.
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7. December 2009 @ 23:59 |
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posting my personal experiences with this:
first fix I ever tried was the penny trick alone. Didnt work very well. Then I did the penny trick and x-clamp while replacing the heatsink grease with arctic silver. System still had 3 red rings (0102). I overheated the system for 20 minutes by putting the fan on the CPU and putting a CD case over the GPU. Cooled down for an hour and it ran good for a couple of months.
Then the 0102 came back. After doing much research it became apparent that while replacing the x-clamps stopped the warping (and i suppose the pennies too?) there was still broken solder. The solution? Heatgun: A $20 wagner 1000 from walmart.
I came home, took off the x-clamps and cleaned off the grease. I tried to do some insulation but it wasnt working out very well and it seemed like it was going to make a bit of a mess with the plastic and electrical tape heating up under the heatgun, so I just ditched the insulation all together. I turned the metal shell that holds the motherboard upside down and put the motherboard on that for my work surface. I grabbed some goggles in case the capacitors popped and then I started. With the motherboard upside down I did 1 minute on low evenly in waves all over the entire bottom, keeping the heatgun about 1 fists length away from the board. Constant movement and trying to heat evenly is the key.
After 1 minute I flipped it to the top. The top is of course more tricky because there are plastic parts and capacitors. I turned the heatgun to high and keep moving around the board in this fashion: CPU -> GPU -> 2 sets of ram chips -> HANA and whatever that chip is next to it then back to the GPU then CPU and start over. I did this for 4 whole minutes focusing a bit more on the GPU and HANA because they're what cause the 0102.
When you're over the CPU, RAM chips and HANA just keep the heatgun angled away from the capacitors and toward the GPU. In this way I was able to direct the heat away from the caps and didnt have the least bit of deformation in them. Just keep the heatgun going in tight circles over each component and angled away from the caps/plastic parts and you should be fine. Be sure not to bump the table and especially not the motherboard itself during this process or you could have the solder bridge and you're screwed.
I let the system cool for about an hour, replace heatsink grease with arctic silver and the m5 screws/#10 nylon washers. I only use 1 nylon washer on the bottom side of the motherboard and none of the top. I think the washers I got were too thick because it didnt seem to allow the heatsink to fully contact the cpu/gpu. So I just simply took those out and made sure to tighten each screw down evenly (by doing roughly the same amount of turns, checking that the heatsinks are level and that the same amount of threads are sticking above the holes on the heatsink).
Using the above method I've fixed 20+ 1 and 3 red ring systems (and 1 no video) for people on craigslist and have had a 100% success rate with 0 returns. My original reflow on my personal system has been going strong (with tons of use) for over a year now. I've got 2 more i'm going to be doing this weekend so I'll try to make a youtube video of it if I can figure out a good way to setup the camera without it being in the way :)
Good luck!
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ronniny
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19. December 2009 @ 12:34 |
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Hi wOOly,
Any chance of that Youtube video you mentioned?
It could help us a lot.
Thanks.
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19. December 2009 @ 12:50 |
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heat gun is a method, but definitely isn't the best, and it is easy to mess up with a heat gun. Myself, and a couple other members on this site do reflows, which will be the best fix for the 360. If you're interested, send a pm
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ronniny
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19. December 2009 @ 15:00 |
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I really appreciate your offer, but P&P costs from Croatia to what ever country and back are to much.
I've been offered that already and checked the costs.
Plus a price of service of reflow ... comes to a price of almost 70% of price a new ARCADE.
Sad is that I have already 2 of them with 0102 code and did many tries of RRoD fixes, tightening the screws and vice versa.
This heatgunning would be my last try and unfortunately in this circumstances of crisis and recession, there is no place for a new box.
So it is going to work or it is going to garbage.
Thanks, guesswho for offering help.
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