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weezal
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12. July 2004 @ 17:03 |
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PLEASE i need help IMMEDIATELY!!!
I have a video with AWESOME quality though its in PAL and I want to convert it to NTSC (Without losing the magnificant quality). What is a easy (or hard) way to convert this file (Without losing the magnificant quality)? And how, exactly, do I go about converting this file (what are the steps/methods)? I dont know who to listen to! Everyone has different opinions! Please help!!!!
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12. July 2004 @ 20:00 |
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Why does one need help Immediately? Obviously, the answers are not clear and well defined. Pick and choose, and best guess. Trial and error will go a long way toward education.
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weezal
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13. July 2004 @ 05:08 |
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Hey everybody, I think this might work, I'm still working on it though. I converted the first 5 mins. of my video with Canopus Procoder then used Mpeg Video Wizard to join the old PAL video and the new NTSC video (Make sure you add the audio that came with the NTSC video.). Then when you hit the Export button, give it a name, then as soon as the new window pops up, click the abort button (it will ask "Delete partially recorder file, click "yes"), click the "Video" tab and where it says "Reference you should see a little rectangle with a file name on it, make sure its the first one (the NTSC video from Procoder). The hit "Select". You should see some things below it change, dont worry about that. Then click the "Monitor" tab, then click "Start". Tell me if my method was horrible cuz i was just fooling around with it last night and thought it may work.
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weezal
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14. July 2004 @ 11:18 |
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Just so you all know, my idea worked. So dont fret. Its a perfect plan. You will love the outcome. Just test it out, tweak a couple of things (whatever you want), but be sure to stick to the method and keep the framerate at 29.97fps. Tell me if you dont like my idea. Or if you have anything to add to it.
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fireboy24
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20. July 2004 @ 08:23 |
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hey, thanx for everyone's suggestion for me ... i'll try my best to do it ... anyway thanx ...
take k ....
fireboy24 .....
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Reetou
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2. August 2004 @ 21:28 |
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Barben,
I will personally thank you for your contribution. Those combinations of utils you suggested worked great, as I myself have a few projects to convert. Some old PAL VHS tapes (Home video from relatives) which I can pull off the ol' PAL VCR into Nero and convert to NTSC DVD.
I didn't opt to use the VOBmerge for anything yet, but will probably find it useful in the future.
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tgunn2760
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15. August 2004 @ 05:36 |
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Barben wrote:
This is how I did my conversion and so far haven't encounter any problem with good video and sound.
Converting PAL Dvd to NTSC Dvd Format ( summarize procedure ).
I'm going to convert a music video concert from PAL to NTSC but only the movie which
is what I need anyway.
DVDDECRYPTER v 3230
DVD2ONE v 1.40
VOBMERGE v 2.50
NEROVISON EXPRESS v 2.1.2.16
NERO BURNING ROM v 6.3.1.17
Length of Movie * 8.3Gig
Barben, is it possible to use shrink to rip the movie rather than Decrypter, then follow all the other steps?
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barben
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16. August 2004 @ 16:29 |
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Yeah, you can use Shrink to rip and compress the files. And in that case, you don't need to use Decrypter and DvD20ne. You can proceed converting it afterwards.
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tgunn2760
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16. August 2004 @ 16:40 |
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So which program does the conversion? VOB merge? Shrink gives you two TS folders, one audio, which is empty, and one video.
If Nerovision does the conversion, I may be ok, since I can use Nerovision. I cannot use Nero 6, although I have it. Can Nerovision encode the VOBs to NSTC, and then use Decrypter to burn them rather than Nero 6?
How about this scenario:
Rip the PAL DVD to AVI;
Use Cucusoft to convert AVI to DVD in NTSC;
( I have played some with Cucusoft, and you can choose between PAL and NTSC and it automatically adjusts the length and width of the video.)
Burn the output, which I guess would be VOB files, with Image Tool and Decrypter.
My concern is the quality of the AVI ripped. Would it be as good as the original? What size would it be? Does SmartRipper offer options as to size of AVI output files?
Thanks in advance if you have any answers.
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cs92563
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16. August 2004 @ 23:18 |
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Do I need a PAL VCR to get a PAL format VHS tape into my computer?
I bought a PAL VHS tape and sent it out to be converted to NTSC DVD.
I got back a piece of crap with terrible color, the audio was out of sync with the actors ... etc, etc.
I figured instead of spending more time and money trying to find someone to do a good job,
I'd just see if I could do it myself!
Any suggestions or advise? Thanks.
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barben
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17. August 2004 @ 07:06 |
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Before all, I would like to remind everybody before attempting to do this project that their Nero Vision express is a REGISTERED one and at least the latest version. You will just waisting time if you don't have one. I had this problem ubtil I got the licensed one.
VObmerge is a program to merge 2 VOB's. This has nothing to do with conversion and you can skip this portion if you are just starting.
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barben
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17. August 2004 @ 07:14 |
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Converting to AVI then to DVD is a long process and waste of time since nerovison is accepting VOB's as a video files. When you add files using Video_ts, all Vobs's will show up.Highlight all this Vob's and nerovsion will accept this as video files. So, no need to convert to any other format. This is straight forward.
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tgunn2760
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17. August 2004 @ 19:27 |
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This is the reason I ask these questions, Barben. I have not used Nerovision before, I have been using Decrypter up to now. So, if I understand this correctly, nerovision is an encoder which will convert the PAL VOBs to NTSC? Is it then possible to burn the NTSC with Decrypter, or does it have to be Nero 6? If it must be done with Nero 6, it is a problem for me. Although I do have it, my computer is a P3 and does meet the minimum requirements for running it.
Thanks again for your help.
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tort
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17. August 2004 @ 20:52 |
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PAL VHS Tapes to NTSC DVD?
Sounds like you sent it to a person using Consumer Grade equipment.
I only use Professional Conversion VCRs and DVDs with Digital TBC (Time Base Correction) which leaves the video in sync.
I could do it for you, you can email me for prices.
You need either a Professional with TBC Signal Converter or a Professional Multistandard VCR. With the Converter you'd need a PAL VCR.
You could also use Video Capture Hardware that supports NTSC/PAL video input, if you don't want the converter, but you'd need the PAL VCR, then you can use programs to convert the PAL to NTSC, such as Ulead Video Studio.
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barben
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17. August 2004 @ 21:24 |
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After you created the DVD files on nerovision, you can use decrypter or any dvd burning software. The only problem is if the created video file is too large, so you have to compressed it again. In my procedure, I managed to create DVD with good video and sound without any regrets. You can use a lot of program to encode, transcode, burn, compressed but i believe for sure that the quality of video will decrease. So, in my opinion, the lesser program you use the better results you have. Bear in mind that experimenting with DVD is not cheap. I started with a lot of freeware before but I didn't go anywhere so I use a combination of freeware and commercial and that's where I achieved my goal...
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tgunn2760
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19. August 2004 @ 14:24 |
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Well, I Shrunk the PAL DVD and tried to burn it using Nerovision without success. The problem is that the files are just a tad too large for the project, about .22 over. Another thing that concerns me is the TS folders cannot be imported into Nerovision. The audio files inside the Video TS folder can be added, but I wonder, will the DVD have no sound? Also, I got a message saying that the files were part PAL part NSTC and may not play properly.
I am now leaning towards ripping the DVD to AVI, using Cucusoft to encode to NTSC DVD, and hope I can then use Image Tool and Decrypter to burn it.
I also tried ripping it with Decrypter, and got an error message at about 91% complete.
Any ideas anyone?
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tgunn2760
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22. August 2004 @ 18:44 |
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Barben, I converted it with Nerovision, it took almost 20 hours, now how do I use DVD2One to shrink it a little? Which files do I shrink? The project is not a movie, it's sections of three soccer games. Does DVD2One shrink the file and replace it in the same folder?
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jkirk7
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24. August 2004 @ 10:25 |
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Minion, your answers have worked great for me. Thank you.
Jeremy
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rbcunha
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2. September 2004 @ 09:38 |
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Minion,
Thank you for a very instructive insight on converting those standards.
You wrote:
"...then you just Mux the AC3 with the encoded Mpeg2 file and author it to DVD..."
Since PAL (625/50) is 25 fps and NTSC (525/59.94) is 29.97 fps, wouldn't I need to synchronize the audio with the converted video before authoring to DVD?
Renato
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Minion
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2. September 2004 @ 12:12 |
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If the audio and Video files are the same length then they should sync Up properly when Muxed together...Cheers
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buckv
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4. September 2004 @ 17:04 |
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I understand and have converted PAL to NTSC using Canopus Procoder 2.0, but I am wondering if there is a way to keep the menus that go along with the original PAL title. Currently, I rip the PAL disc using DVD decryptor(Demuxing the video and audio). I then convert the Video using Canopus and import the converted video and the ripped audio into DVD Architect to make my NTSC title. Again, is there a way to just load the PAL files into Canopus with keeping the entire disc, menu etc.?
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Minion
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4. September 2004 @ 22:57 |
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What you Can do is use DVD Decryptor to Rip the Menu"s off of the DVD...If they are Just Still Menu"s you can load the VOB file that Has the Menu on it into TMPGEnc and save the menu as a BMP or JPG File that you can import into your DVD authoring program as a Menu and if the Menu"s are Motion Menu"s you can use a Mpeg editor like Mpeg2VCR to edit the Motion menu out of the VOB file and save it as a Mpeg2 file that you can use as a Motion Menu in your DVD authoring Program....
I have done this Quite a Few Times and it can be Tedius and a Bit complicated but if Done correctly can look allmost exactly like the Original DVD....
You know you will get a Much Better quality Pal/NTSC conversion if you use AVISynth to Slow the PAL 25fps Video down to 23.976fps and encode it to NTSC at 23.976fps with 2:3 Pulldown...
This is the same Type of Method the use in Studios to Convert 23.976fps NTSC Film footage to 25fps PAL for Viewing of North American movies in PAL countries...
I have used AVISynth to do this Many times and works Perfectly with no artifacts at all....
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buckv
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5. September 2004 @ 05:32 |
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Thank you for the info. I wonder if this is what Procoder does when it converts because I really can't see a difference???? What do you think?
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Minion
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5. September 2004 @ 12:48 |
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Canopus procoder uses Frame and Field Interpolation to Convert Frame rates, It is a better method than Frame Decimation and duplication which is used in most other Mpeg encoders but it isn"t as Good a Method as Slowing down or speeding up the Video to change the Frame rate but this only works when going from Progressive PAL 25fps to 23.976fps Film rate or from 23.976fps to 25fps....Speeding up and Slowing down also doesn"t work when converting interlaced Material unless you De-interlace but that causes artifacts of it"s own....
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buckv
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5. September 2004 @ 13:43 |
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How does one know what kind of PAL disc a person has? What happens to the audio when you speed up or slow down the video? Are there any good guides out there which show how to convert using your method?
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