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6. September 2008 @ 17:32 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
My P5K was fine, it was just a stupidly designed board.
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btw, if you google for problems with any specific mobo (asus and gigabyte included) you're gonna find problems with them all. I'm not going to pick out any particular GB mobo and google for problems with it just to add fuel to the fire. they're there but I've got better things to do. they've all had problems of one sort or another. you'd be suprised to find how many of them were of no fault of the mobo tho.

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I thought that myself, so I googled some other boards. Very little for stuff like the P35-DS3R or A8N-E...



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Yeah pretty much every motherboard out there has problems. The gigabytes had problems with vcore. Sure it's fixed by a BIOS update, but not everyone would think of that.

EDIT: I love the 'No Fanboy Comments needed' up top.

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ok that last move didnt work either..fired up but reboots when trying the burntest.

here is a shot of bios the mem voltage



here is what i did this time. i think this is where i tighten the mem up. i got it now at 5-5-5-18. 1:1 ratio. plus increased the mem volts to 2.24v up from 2.22v.



gonna try burntest again...
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Ughhh, another one of my Gigabyte boards is acting up again.

I swear, I'm just going to switch to a different company for my customer builds. This is the third one that messed up!
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What is happening, exactly?



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think i got it now. OCCT been running for 38 mins no problem. temps are up a bit but its no where near what i had before. will post when done
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What about IntelBurnTest?



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rob,

what is your actual vcore voltage? I know it is set on auto but what is auto giving it voltage wise? what do you have the fsb at? your probs may be all related to the cpu OC. get it 100% stable before messing with the memory.

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Two of the boards had to be RMA'd because they would not boot up after about 2 months of use.

This last one is the one which I couldn't set vcore on. The customer had it for a week, and now it can overclock anymore. It lost all the settings and now whenever he tried to overclock it wont. Not even with 1.5v and 3.2ghz. I told him to flash the new F6a bios, and if that doesn't work then another RMA.
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Originally posted by Mort81:
rob,

what is your actual vcore voltage? I know it is set on auto but what is auto giving it voltage wise? what do you have the fsb at? your probs may be all related to the cpu OC. get it 100% stable before messing with the memory.
well it fail 51 mins in orthos. code 1 error. which i think is cpu problem.

with the vdrop i have i had the vcore set to 1.400v and actual was 1.36v
as for the fsb i have to look again.
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Rob,

don't rely on what you set the voltages in MIT to be the actual voltages. you need to look in hardware monitor or use some software that will monitor the actual vltages eg. everest. do you have LLC? if so, it will help with vdroop. you also might consider increasing the MCH voltage a little more too. maybe to 1.3v especially if you are going to OC the memory but keep an eye on your NB temp.

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Indeed, help, but not cure. It's 'adaptive' to say the least.



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Man! I take a break for a day to do some work on my computer and two pages have been added! LOL!!

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As for your last post Russ, while I agree with it to an extent, I don't think the situation is quite as bad as you make out, at least I hope it isn't. For example, when someone asks for a cooler I usually ask what they're doing with their CPU first, and recommend them the Freezer 64 Pro or Freezer 7 Pro first, if I find out they're overclocking, silencing, or using a quad, the TRUE reference then appears.
It's not that way to us, but it's what new people coming here for the first time see! We are too close to it, as they are just casual observers. The perspective is different to them. We all are so close to it all the time that we just don't see it!

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Quote:BTW, Thank you Rob for pointing that out to me!

what was that?

A long time ago when the MB war was going full blast, you sent me a PM and said you didn't think I was being quite fair! You were right, I wasn't! Your PM is what sent me back to re-read all the posts. Funny thing is that what someone writes at the time doesn't read the same later, at all. You're removed from the situation enough to be able to see things more as other people do. It's like you look in the mirror every day and you don't see any difference, but get out some old photos and the difference is readily apparent. It's there staring you in the face, but you just don't see it. Like I said, I should have snapped to it when Morty go so angry. Had I gone back then and re-read the threads, it would have been easy to see why he was so hot!

spamual,
Are you good at math? LOL!! That's 4.0GHz, not 4.2! LOL!! 4.2 would be 4200MHz and would have given you 420MHz for the bus speed and a fsb of 1680 with that multiplier! ROFLMAO!!
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no i dont agree to that, because there may be some very good components alot of us havent tried buy many people on other forums have, i dont see why we cant recomend stuff based on realife results by other forums.

Because that makes it hear-say, not fact! Many of the forums around don't even provide links for outrageous claims. We shouldn't be giving people information based on unreliable sources, and we should make that clear in our posts! What's wrong with saying something like "I don't have any personal experience with this product, but I've heard good things about it", and leave it at that! It used to be a mandatory thing here to provide benchmarks and support links, and I wish it still was! See what I'm getting at? The facts just aren't there, so all you're really posting is rumor and speculation, when there's no links to back up the claims!

Mort81,
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btw, if you google for problems with any specific mobo (asus and gigabyte included) you're gonna find problems with them all.

When I Google a product I usually just type: "GA-P35-DS3R, reviews" unless I'm trying to deal with a specific problem. Then I would Google the MB model and the specific problem! If you just Google for problems, you will surely find them. You have to be specific with what you google, or the facts tend to get mixed up with the BS!

abuzar1,
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Ughhh, another one of my Gigabyte boards is acting up again.

I swear, I'm just going to switch to a different company for my customer builds. This is the third one that messed up!

That's precisely the sort of comments that aren't needed around here! It gives people the impression that GB doesn't make good motherboards, which would be a rediculous statement! How much of the problem did you create for yourself by some of your sometimes questionable methods? It's like my CPU! I hurt it! I accept that because I did the same thing you did and kicked it right to 4.0GHz. Did you ever consider that whatever the problem is with your MB that you may have done something to create it, and now are bad-mouthing the manufacturer when it may have been your lack of patience in not wanting to take your time, be patient, and do things right! You certainly don't have the best of work ethics when it comes to overclocking! LOL!!

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Precisely. I try to be a bit more open-minded about what OTHERS see on the forum, certainly with regard to bad language and stuff like that.



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Russ, the 4.2GHz E8600 was on the thread i posted above.

the 4GHz E8600 was with the screenie posted below :D

(someone needs his eyes checked xD)

and obviously i am not saying to post hearsay, but when people post in other forums, they normally give benches/screenies/etc. hell we if dont do this, how are we going to recomend newer tech? wait till one of us gets an X58 of one brand and one model, and ONYL suggest that till people get more?
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Originally posted by spamual:
Russ, the 4.2GHz E8600 was on the thread i posted above.

the 4GHz E8600 was with the screenie posted below :D

(someone needs his eyes checked xD)

and obviously i am not saying to post hearsay, but when people post in other forums, they normally give benches/screenies/etc. hell we if dont do this, how are we going to recomend newer tech? wait till one of us gets an X58 of one brand and one model, and ONYL suggest that till people get more?
I think you missed the point Shaaf. ;) It wasn't that we couldn't or shouldn't post some other hardware that we don't have... it was to announce that we didn't own said product and do what you just did. POST something that shows what it is and what it does. ;)

Don't be so defensive. :) I like it when posters give some sort of link to show other products. :D That's part of the reason that I bought the DFI. :D

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I don't think anyone intends to be dishonest when they recommend a product they don't own, but by not revealing it that person is also being glib. The problem with posting stuff from other sites is that you have to accept their claims as true through a leap of faith. More experienced builders usually develop a built in baloney meter and can decide if a post is likely to true or pumped up, but an inexperienced builder can easily get caught up in the "wow factor." I'm constantly reviewing new products looking for something really good or exceptional, but until I've used it I rarely suggest it without revealing that I don't own it (unfortunately for my wife I often do own it. LOL). When people come to a thread such as this for their research they're not looking for a dozen conflicting recommendations to be confused by, they're looking for what one of us is using. All that we have to do is strut a bit, and be honest about our systems stability.


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I like it when posters give some sort of link to show other products. :D That's part of the reason that I bought the DFI. :D
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I don't want that island!! To many inhabitants... hehehehe. :P

Seriously I did read some reviews of the DFI and I wanted something different because of the "recommendation" factor and NOT wanting what everyone else had. :P Honestly it would have been ASUS, DFI or MSI. Gigabyte's name is just to long.... ROFL!!

Thanks for all your reports on the ASUS P45, almost bought that beauty. :D

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I don't want that island!! To many inhabitants... hehehehe. :P
Hmm! What Island? It's the bridge that's for sale.;D


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Honestly it would have been ASUS, DFI or MSI. Gigabyte's name is just to long.... ROFL!!

Thanks for all your reports on the ASUS P45, almost bought that beauty. :D
I purchased the board because I thought that it would suit my needs without breaking the bank. I also figured that a 16 phase power design would add stability for later on when I jump on a quad core as the prices go down. I'm looking for shear encode power. DFI makes a decent board but one has to be careful using it, because it is one of those boards that will allow user settings to the point meltdown.

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Well I don't want the bridge either. :P

Just read a few forums and the ASUS website about 16-phase power and I'm still not sure what it does. lol. :D

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Just read a few forums and the ASUS website about 16-phase power and I'm still not sure what it does. lol. :D
It stabilizes power by providing a steadier supply and distributes heat across multiple regulators. This is got to be good when going to quad core.

If you would like to know more about a lesser power phase design then ask Russ about his old 3 phase Gigabyte board. LOL


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still cant get it stable at 4.0ghz. but ihavent been able to do much to it since yesterday when i was posting. gonna play with it some more. take the MCH up a tad and vcore try and get it closer to the 1.365v, but i think i will have to be close to 1.50v in MIT to acheive that.
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Is there no loadline calibration for your board?



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