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30. September 2008 @ 18:05 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by sammorris:
I use IntelBurnTest, as it seems pretty accurate at testing stability within a short period. Systems that can pass prime95 for hours could still potentially fail that test, and I'd rather not wait hours for a stability check... :P
Your CPU voltage will be lower than you set it due to vdroop, the undervolt effect caused by your motherboard's power regulators. You have got a good chip if it's stable at such a low voltage at 3Ghz, as my CPU was only stable at 3.15Ghz with 1.408 in CPUZ, 1.45 in BIOS. I've set 1.475V with loadline calibration (reduces vdroop effect) just to get 3.24Ghz stable.
i ran prime95 only for a few hours because i had to do stuff, but overall it seemed to pass the stuff. ill try IntelBurnTest when i get back, but i think ill keep my vcore because 3.0ghz is well over enough for what i do. i never have gotten to full load unless i used prime95.
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30. September 2008 @ 20:26 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I start out with Intelburn test but then I also run prime95 with short ffts. Then I do a graphics stability test with 3DMark and if that won't kill it then I'll slam it with a 9 to 10 hour encode that use 98% of processors resources. At this point the only thing left that I can do is dip in oil, take a cutting torch to it, or wire an extension cord directly to the processor and plug it in.:>D

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30. September 2008 @ 21:20 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by Sophocles:
At this point the only thing left that I can do is dip in oil, take a cutting torch to it, or wire an extension cord directly to the processor and plug it in.:>D
I tried that and it's NOT so bad. ;) IF you have a good cooler it'll withstand much more than you think. hehehehe. :P

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Didn't run the torture test for 9-10 hours but I've done some serious encoding and it seems to do great. What test do you use for your gfx card? ;)

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What test do you use for your gfx card? ;
I generally run my graphics cards at stock unless I have an especially graphics intensive game then I overclock a bit. My graphics use is mostly for High Definition playback. Though....

I do test my system with 3Dmark 05 and I suppose that stresses the vid card too. My current graphics card is the ATI 3870 and does what I need it too.

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Thanks for the reply Sophy. :) I normally run my video cards at stock as well. I don't do crazy gaming like the gfx card BOYS. ;)

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Well I always OC my GFX card a bit. I mean come on, no respectable gamer runs ANYTHING stock. Now only if I could OC my harddrives...
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I'm a gamer, and rarely overclock my graphics card. For the sake of 5% extra performance it's pointless being in a situation where you may or may not have a crash or graphical corruption.



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Originally posted by sammorris:
I'm a gamer, and rarely overclock my graphics card. For the sake of 5% extra performance it's pointless being in a situation where you may or may not have a crash or graphical corruption.
Completely agree with that Sammy. ;) If you get a good enough gfx card why OC the dang thing? :D

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1. October 2008 @ 09:07 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
The 4870X2 is perhaps unsurprisingly, a mediocre overclocker anyway...



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1. October 2008 @ 09:11 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
well sam, when you have a 4870x2 nothing really needs the OC.

for me to maintain 60FPS instead of 50, online in cod4, i need to OC my GPU. I think this GPU is one i have had the longest out of all of mine (4 months so far).
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lol 4 months. My X1900XT was in mainstream use for 19 months and is still being used now, my X800 Pro AGP lasted me 22 months and my MX440 and Rage pro lasted me probably longer than that... I thought I was bad!



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well i had my 7600GS (which came with the PC) for 6 months and my 7800GT for 2 months, but i pushed the memory to far and it started to currupt artifact and then finally 64 bit drivers for nvisia was causing bsods. lol


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Quite a few people I know have had that story, which is one of the main reasons I never bothered looking too much into graphics overclocks, it stops me trying stupid things that end in tears... :P



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I've had reasonable success with card overclocking but that has always depended on the card used at the time. If I had a card in the AMD 400o series which already runs hot I would do it, and I especially wouldn't do it with the recent Nvidia card versions because of their recent GPU failures and apparent solder flaws. In fact a recent study indicates that an ATI card will have an average life span over a Nvidia card 10 to 100 times that of a Nvidia card. Now if we're discussing the current issue of ATI cards I would say that it is probably wise to put overclocking them on hold.:>D

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Other than a DOA Sapphire 3870, I've not had one break that's been the card's fault and not my own (or to pass the baton, Arctic Cooling's) - the only things that seem to go wrong with them are the fans.



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1. October 2008 @ 17:40 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
NEVER. stick them under water and clock.

soph, im thinking of going Q9650 as farcry 2 (a game (you oldies :p)) will support quads and same clock will be 30% faster. atm they use out of a Qx9650 stock about 60% of the CPU....

im so torn, as doing this would add another £200 to my already tight budget.

i could go into my over draft....

should i go for it.

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That is a hefty build for a uni student. Unless you're getting subsidy from someone I'd be wary of that. Your student loan will be cut in half by your up-front accommodation fee (you pay for the term, at the beginning of the term), so that usually leaves you with around £750 to play with if you got one of the richer loans. You'll be into your overdraft before you've even started with no other support until after christmas. You still have to eat, etc.



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1. October 2008 @ 17:49 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by spamual:
NEVER. stick them under water and clock.

soph, im thinking of going Q9650 as farcry 2 (a game (you oldies :p)) will support quads and same clock will be 30% faster. atm they use out of a Qx9650 stock about 60% of the CPU....

im so torn, as doing this would add another £200 to my already tight budget.

i could go into my over draft....

should i go for it.

Q9650
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2x2GB Geil black dragon PC8500
4870X2
320GB F1 samsung

(CPU and GPU under water)

I seem to recall having the similar self-debate and you know how I responded. Should I really be the person to ask. LOL

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True true, but you're not 18 years old and living entirely off a government loan...
You have no idea how ridiculously much I want a Q9650, but right now, I just can't afford anywhere near one, and I need to get some more storage before any other computer parts arrive.



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[qute]True true, but you're not 18 years old and living entirely off a government loan...
I believe that this line addresses that.

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Should I really be the person to ask. LOL

Sammorris:

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You have no idea how ridiculously much I want a Q9650, but right now, I just can't afford anywhere near one, and I need to get some more storage before any other computer parts arrive.
I can't imagine anyone not wanting one, it really is the premier processor of its kind.

I remember what getting by on student wages were like and I understand.

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sammorris,
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Quite a few people I know have had that story, which is one of the main reasons I never bothered looking too much into graphics overclocks, it stops me trying stupid things that end in tears... :P

I've had my XFX 7600GT overclocked from 1525MHz to 1650, and the clock speed from 525MHz to 650, and it's been that way for about a year and a half or more without any problems. It idles in the mid 50s, and seems to work well. It will clock even higher, but the temps do start to climb! LOL!!

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I've just put the Q9550 in to replace the Q9450 and there doesn't seem to be any real difference and I have to take the motherboard out each time so.... is the Q9650 gonna make a great deal of difference?
or should I just pass on it?

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Thats because the Q9550 is only 166mhz faster and is still the C1 stepping. The Q9650 is 333mhz faster, and is the E0 stepping so will overclock much further.



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2. October 2008 @ 15:51 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by pcrepair:
...and I have to take the motherboard out each time so....

Are you being extra cautious? I dont understand the need to take the mobo out the case just for a CPU swap. Whatever method you prefer is fine as long as the outcome is successful, it just seems like extra work.

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Originally posted by pcrepair:
I've just put the Q9550 in to replace the Q9450 and there doesn't seem to be any real difference and I have to take the motherboard out each time so.... is the Q9650 gonna make a great deal of difference?
or should I just pass on it?

pcrepair,
The 9650 is the current Quad sweet spot! LOL!! While $569 seems high, at first, it's the top rung of the low end. The next step up is almost twice the price. The Q9650 with E0 stepping is capable of doing about 95-98% of what the $1000 QX9650 can do, so from a price/performance view, the Q9650 is an incredible performer. I don't know as if we will ever see the E0 stepping on the 9450 or the 9550. Because of the released pricing on Core i7, I would doubt it! I believe that once Core i7 comes out, the 9650 will be the bottom of the Quad core lineup, at a greatly reduced price! That's what I'm hoping for, anyway!

You might send Sophocles a PM and ask him, as he has a Q9650, and his benchmarks have been stunning. he originally wanted the $324 Q9550, but he got tired of waiting for the EO stepping, and like I said, I don't think there will be one unless the Core i7 turns out to be a flop!

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