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4. October 2008 @ 00:12 |
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lol
At least I can say I've had way better computers than you until you build this new one :)
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4. October 2008 @ 00:21 |
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Never used the Zalman but it looks like something out of an old Flash Gordon Serial. Really cool. I haven't checked out any reviews on it but I expect that it will out perform any air solutions.
In the end you can always use this site as a guide.
http://www.frozencpu.com/
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4. October 2008 @ 00:25 |
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the zalman would get hot quick though, due to lack of air to the rad.
and boozer, your right, so has nearly everyone on this forum, good things come to those who wait, guinness xD
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4. October 2008 @ 00:27 |
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lol Go ahead and build that beast.
I'll beat you with my nehalem build in two more months.
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4. October 2008 @ 00:31 |
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Originally posted by spamual:
but the CPU cooler normally also helps cool the NB, but then with less heat on it, would it need ot be cooled?
as for the GPU, for me and sam it would be a masive problem, for you with the 7600GT, you will be fine.
if you mounted it verticle or horizontal there would be no problem, IICR, the heatpipe are long ways, not side to side, so it would work against gravity going back up verticlay as it is, butt he flow from the pump should be enough anyways.
i know someone who has tested wither way and only made 1C of difference which can be put down to ambient temps.
Spamual,
I have the forged Copper Enzotek fo the NB, and a large part of it's heat comes from the CPU through all the lands connecting the CPU to the MB. Cool the CPU better and the NB temp should go down even more, and there's no hot air blowing on it from the CPU cooler. I'll turn the cover fan around and make it an intake so it blows outside air over the power regulators and the memory. Cool air will be drawn in the side vent, which should lower my video card temps a bit too! The radiator area is 5" wide x 6 7/8" long x 1 3/8 deep, so it's a good sized radiator to boot.
I just got done reading the tests Tom's did on it with an E6750 overclocked to 3.6+GHz and compared to a few other WC systems and 1 Air cooler, and it did very well inside the case. They do highly recommend it! I would expect that where it would count the most, if the radiator is mounted outside the case, is when we have higher ambient temperatures, and it do get hot here! LOL!! 46C is not uncommon in the summertime. I also am going to use my Silverstone instead of the noisy fan that comes with it, so I should have more airflow and less noise. Not only that, but I can adjust the fan infinitely so I can better determine the speed and airflow needed for best cooling. The stock fan is loud and can only be run at 12v or 7v. I think an adjustable fan would do a better job. Here's where the high cfm at low rpms of the "Stones" will probably matter a good deal. With 2 intake fans, they should aid the airflow even more out the back. Again, I can control the cover fan for all around balance of airflow.
As far as the person you know goes, a lot depends on what the temperature was when he tried it both ways, and how low the temps were on the inside. I mean think about it, if his CPU temp was mid 20s, he's not going to gain much by moving the radiator to the outside. But if his CPU temp was say 35, then I would expect the difference to be larger.
Best Regards,
Russ
GigaByte 990FXA-UD5 - AMD FX-8320 @4.0GHz @1.312v - Corsair H-60 liquid CPU Cooler - 4x4 GB GSkill RipJaws DDR3/1866 Cas8, 8-9-9-24 - Corsair 400-R Case - OCZ FATAL1TY 550 watt Modular PSU - Intel 330 120GB SATA III SSD - WD Black 500GB SATA III - WD black 1 TB Sata III - WD Black 500GB SATA II - 2 Asus DRW-24B1ST DVD-Burner - Sony 420W 5.1 PL-II Suround Sound - GigaByte GTX550/1GB 970 Mhz Video - Asus VE247H 23.6" HDMI 1080p Monitor
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4. October 2008 @ 00:40 |
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Originally posted by abuzar1:
lol Go ahead and build that beast.
I'll beat you with my nehalem build in two more months.
abuzar1,
Historically you will probably be spending a bit of time on the phone with the MBs Tech Reps, because make no mistake about it, there will be teething problems. Considering Intel's delays with the X58 chipset, this should be an extremely green chipset! Not the kind of green that would make GM happy either! LOL!!
I have no desire to be pulling my hair out, and I have plenty of it, so it would be painful! I'll let someone else play Masochist! ROFLMAO!!
Best regards,
Russ
GigaByte 990FXA-UD5 - AMD FX-8320 @4.0GHz @1.312v - Corsair H-60 liquid CPU Cooler - 4x4 GB GSkill RipJaws DDR3/1866 Cas8, 8-9-9-24 - Corsair 400-R Case - OCZ FATAL1TY 550 watt Modular PSU - Intel 330 120GB SATA III SSD - WD Black 500GB SATA III - WD black 1 TB Sata III - WD Black 500GB SATA II - 2 Asus DRW-24B1ST DVD-Burner - Sony 420W 5.1 PL-II Suround Sound - GigaByte GTX550/1GB 970 Mhz Video - Asus VE247H 23.6" HDMI 1080p Monitor
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4. October 2008 @ 00:43 |
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Hmm, my main problem is money. If I can afford it then I have no problem being the guinea pig.
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4. October 2008 @ 00:47 |
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but the CPU cooler normally also helps cool the NB, but then with less heat on it, would it need ot be cooled?
Actually spam that's more like it has to help cool it because an after market heat sink and fan takes up too much space to install a chipset fan. Water cooling takes very little vertical space and leaves plenty of room to add a chipset fan which is much better than directing a CPU fan at it. I use a chipset fan and my temps never hit 40C and most of the time it's around 32/35C.
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4. October 2008 @ 01:08 |
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Originally posted by spamual:
but the CPU cooler normally also helps cool the NB, but then with less heat on it, would it need ot be cooled?
as for the GPU, for me and sam it would be a masive problem, for you with the 7600GT, you will be fine.
if you mounted it verticle or horizontal there would be no problem, IICR, the heatpipe are long ways, not side to side, so it would work against gravity going back up verticlay as it is, butt he flow from the pump should be enough anyways.
i know someone who has tested wither way and only made 1C of difference which can be put down to ambient temps.
spamual,
OK, I figured it out! LOL!! the bottom tank where the tubes are, splits the bottom tank, so water is pushed up the tubes of one half of the radiator and gravity and water volume makes it go down the other. That's why the "V" at the bottom. I must be getting old as I should have realized that if the bottom tank was common to both, it wouldn't work very well with the pipes that close! Also, lets face it, a common tank wouldn't need the V either!
Just a guess for sure, but a very educated guess!
BTW! You've got it backwards. The NB cooler actuall helps cool the CPU, not the other way around. I know, the CPU cooler directs air over the NB heat sink but it needs to, as the heat sink is working overtime trying to keep up with the heat caused by heat migration through the many connections between the NB and the CPU, and being so close together.
Here's my proof of that! When I installed the Enzoteck NB cooler, the NB temp remained about the same as with the stock heatsink with a fan on it. Maybe a slight bit lower, but essentially the same. Yet, the CPU temp dropped 4-5C. If you remember NuckNfuts clued me in to how much more heat the Enzotek would pull out of the motherboard, and that's exactly what it did! Once again thank you Nuck! I may even be able to remove the 40mm fan from the Enzotek as without being crowded in by the CPU cooler, it should cool even better. My work is picking up, and if Russells work picks up a bit, I can consider purchasing the Swiftech. Right now eating and paying the bills is the main concern! LOL!!
Russ
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4. October 2008 @ 08:17 |
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Here's my proof of that! When I installed the Enzoteck NB cooler, the NB temp remained about the same as with the stock heatsink with a fan on it.
When added just a fan to the passive Heat Sink my NB temperatures dropped by almost 10C, and since the CPU didn't need any help I directed the airflow toward the rear exhaust fan.
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4. October 2008 @ 09:03 |
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Originally posted by Sophocles:
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Here's my proof of that! When I installed the Enzoteck NB cooler, the NB temp remained about the same as with the stock heatsink with a fan on it.
When added just a fan to the passive Heat Sink my NB temperatures dropped by almost 10C, and since the CPU didn't need any help I directed the airflow toward the rear exhaust fan.
When I installed a 50mm fan on OxiMoron's heatsink, the MB temperature dropped from 59C to 38C. 59C is really close to the limit for most modern electronic components. No worries now!
Russ
GigaByte 990FXA-UD5 - AMD FX-8320 @4.0GHz @1.312v - Corsair H-60 liquid CPU Cooler - 4x4 GB GSkill RipJaws DDR3/1866 Cas8, 8-9-9-24 - Corsair 400-R Case - OCZ FATAL1TY 550 watt Modular PSU - Intel 330 120GB SATA III SSD - WD Black 500GB SATA III - WD black 1 TB Sata III - WD Black 500GB SATA II - 2 Asus DRW-24B1ST DVD-Burner - Sony 420W 5.1 PL-II Suround Sound - GigaByte GTX550/1GB 970 Mhz Video - Asus VE247H 23.6" HDMI 1080p Monitor
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4. October 2008 @ 10:18 |
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boozer, i may ditch my system annyhow, depending on money, as my build is coming in january, so who knows if ill have nehalem ;)
im on limited time, russ ill read your posts when i get back LOL! :D
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4. October 2008 @ 11:42 |
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hey, about OC with intelburntest, i have a problem. i cannot seem to run the test. after i input stuff like how full of a stress and want, how many tests, ect. windows says theres a problem and intelburntest cannot continue and then closes. can somebody help me figure out whats wrong?
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4. October 2008 @ 11:45 |
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Originally posted by spamual:
and the watercooling kit remain till it breaks
Which, knowing watercooling, will be less than a year..
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4. October 2008 @ 12:10 |
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Which, knowing watercooling, will be less than a year..
Actually my oldest water cooling kit was 2 years old back in March 08 and it still runs as good today as it did yesterday. It's now on its 3rd processor. All I have to do is just add a little distilled water every now and then. The kit is only as good as the pump and motor used, mine is made by Delphi. Self contained water kits are only guaranteed for two years of use, but Donald has been using his for over two years and his is still working as well. I actually purchased two of the small self-contained Coolermaster units but never used either of them. They are still in the box. LOL
Looking at water kits can be confusing because there is a lot of misinformation going around about how they work
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4. October 2008 @ 16:57 |
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That is a good point. Delphi make superb equipment. Most of the PC-oriented pumps I've seen haven't exuded quality...
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4. October 2008 @ 17:36 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
That is a good point. Delphi make superb equipment. Most of the PC-oriented pumps I've seen haven't exuded quality...
Sammy that's cause you is cheap!!! lol. j/k... Like most of us you have a learning curve with all equipment be it cpus, gpus, psus, or water coolers. lol. One thing that I've learned is that you can't skimp on certain parts. I would think that water coolers fit in that category. ;)
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4. October 2008 @ 17:49 |
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Hah, it wasn't me that was buying, it's the £60 Laing pumps that are crap, ironically a £30 D-Tek works fine!
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4. October 2008 @ 18:07 |
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it's the £60 Laing pumps that are crap
Some Laing pumps are made by Delphi and marketed through Laing and are of excellent quality. I've heard of early failures with some pumps but I think that a lot of it has to with water cooling's small penetration into the market. I have long since put aside brand preference for many products for concern that I would end up paying more than I should have for no reason.
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4. October 2008 @ 18:12 |
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I refer to the DDC model specifically.
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4. October 2008 @ 18:19 |
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Display Data Channel? I must be tired because I missed the point. I've been working on exporting Hounds MySQL 4X to file, and then Importing it to MySQL 5X. It's about 330 mb in size and I've been timed out twice already. LOL
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4. October 2008 @ 18:50 |
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A Laing DDC pump, that's the model name... :P
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4. October 2008 @ 19:14 |
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DAnger Den Vario ftw
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4. October 2008 @ 20:11 |
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The Vario is based on the same design I think...
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4. October 2008 @ 20:27 |
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i dont think it is, but im not sure, got a link which says it is?
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