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3. October 2008 @ 15:22 |
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Originally posted by cincyrob:
wow wont that be a pretty big shipping over the big pond to ya shaff?
Originally posted by Sammy:
It only cost me a fiver to send greensman a CPU, but then that was only insured for £30, not £200 plus...
Remember his fiver is 5£ NOT $5. lol. :)
I would guess the way you pack stuff it would be about $15-$20 added to the initial price of the item. So about $340 or so delivered to the UK. ROFL... That's terrible when you have to order from across the sea to get a decent price. :D
Oh wait... I think I did that recently. hehehe. :P
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3. October 2008 @ 17:13 |
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Originally posted by spamual:
rob i might actually decide to buy off you, if there are no e0s here in a couple of weeks.
Spamual,
The problem you can run into is declaring a high value. If you keep a low value and list it as used it will probably be all right, but if the value is high and they check it, it's VAT time!
The last time I tried to send a CPU over there, the postal authorities in Canada impounded it. This was after I inquired about doing it in advance, and my local Postmaster said that I could do it!. $16 and it took me about 6 weeks to get the CPU back, and no, I didn't get a refund! I thought we had gone to war with England overnight! ROFLMAO!!
I think that's wrong, BTW! If I want to send you a birthday present of a new $1000 CPU, what business is that of theirs! The world is getting far too money hungry! Everybody wants their piece of the pie. The problem is by the time all these leeches take their piece, there's nothing left in your pocket! LOL!!
Russ
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3. October 2008 @ 17:41 |
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Originally posted by cincyrob:
HA HA HA very funny.....lol
$317 after tax + $8 roughly to ship most anywhere in the US.total of $325.. send all money orders to me and i'll ship them out... now takeing orders.....lol
ok guys playing around in the bios a bit..not with the OC it stays at 3.8ghz,, but messin with the C1E and E1ST???what ever it is... thats more of a energy type items right.. it only uses the higher OC when needed... if so wouldnt it be good ot use it? cut the volts when not needed...lol
Rob,
C1E allows the multiplier to be lowered so that the CPU uses less power at idle or low power states. Typically mine idles at 2.6GHz, but jumps right to 3.6 when I use it! i always use C1E as it has no effect on performance at all!
E1ST should be turned off! It adjusts the Core frequency and CPU voltage lower to decrease power consumption. It adjusts itself according to your needs. It sounds much better than the way it actually works, and it does slow down the performance of the computer! In fact, I find it's operation to be very clunky, where you often have to wait a few seconds for it to re-adjust itself to the right speed as it does it in steps (that's why it's called "Speedstep")
C1E is fine to use,and I do, but unless you are running stock, and don't know better, turn EIST off!
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Russ
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3. October 2008 @ 17:58 |
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good point russ, but couldnt you tag it as a gift? so customs wouldnt be paid?
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3. October 2008 @ 18:15 |
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Originally posted by spamual:
good point russ, but couldnt you tag it as a gift? so customs wouldnt be paid?
It was listed on the paperwork as a gift. The legal explanation was all Gobbly-Gook, Legalese crap! There also is a limit on how many dollars constitutes a gift, so don't be expecting that Lambo for you Birthday! ROFLMSOAO!! You can't send CPUs to Communist countries either, because they claim that you are giving secret technology. Makes you wonder just how many Diplomatic Pouches are crammed with all sorts of high tech computer gear LOL!! Totally stupid and worthless law, that doesn't work! LOL Hey, wait a minute! It's the Government, and they are stupid! Now I understand! LOL!! Attention Dummies in the Government: China makes motherboards! You think they don't already have all the CPUs they need? ROFLMSOAO!! You can't get a Hell of a lot more communist than China!
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Russ
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3. October 2008 @ 19:14 |
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Rob
I see a chance to pick up a few bucks toward your own Q9550 (not 9950 LOL). I think that they all would be willing to drop and extra $10 outside of cost and shipping for a Q9550 EO stepping (Russ' would have to be shipped by pony express).
Russ
Swiftech makes decent water cooling units, and it looks as though it will fit inside the case.
Sam
Water isn't the only solution! Hmm! A play on words. LOL
http://www.frozencpu.com/cat/l3/g30/c103...lant-Page1.html
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3. October 2008 @ 20:08 |
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Well fellas the point is MOOT!!! I just chatted with good ole RedRob and they're all GONE!! Yep they were the E0 stepping version and what I wanted!!! DANG IT!!!
Guess we'll just have to wait for the next batch to hit somewhere and snatch 'em up then. :)
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3. October 2008 @ 20:33 |
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yup what Gm said.. they sold 12 of them yesterday in 3 hours. they only have 6 of the E8400 E0 out of 34 total from saturday.
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3. October 2008 @ 20:46 |
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Sophocles,
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Rob
I see a chance to pick up a few bucks toward your own Q9550 (not 9950 LOL). I think that they all would be willing to drop and extra $10 outside of cost and shipping for a Q9550 EO stepping (Russ' would have to be shipped by pony express).
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Swiftech makes decent water cooling units, and it looks as though it will fit inside the case.
Oh we're very modern here! We have running water now, you know! Can't figure out how to hook up the water to the Outhouse, but you can't have everything! Besides, Ponies don't Time Warp very well! LOL!!
All joking aside, thanks for the info on the Swiftech. It did look pretty well made to my eyes. Other than having to pull the MB to install the back plate/brace, it looks like an easy job.
You know, for the life of me I can't figure out why you have to buy a rear mount kit if you can't install it inside the case? Why not just mount it on the outside and make two holes in the case for the radiator pipes to go through! It's flat, and there's nothing sticking out to prevent it from mounting flat and the holes in the radiator line up with any standard 120mm fan, so why not do it that way. It's the same total thickness inside or out, so the screws that come with it should work! It won't interfere with any of the case slots. It should look very neat and professional! In fact, That's exactly what I intend to do, letting the rear case fan cool it outside the case. Hell, I might even paint it silver to match my case. LOL!! It will only stick out 1 3/8 inches and I'll just use some of the foam circles from the DVD cake boxes, cut down to seal the small space where the pipes go through the case, or some fat rubber o-rings. It would also make it that much easier to top off with coolant. I've looked it all over and studied the drawings on Swiftech's site, and I can't see any reason not to do it that way!
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Water isn't the only solution! Hmm! A play on words.LOL
I guess that means the Solution is the Solution! LOL!! Another play on words!
Best Regards,
Russ
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3. October 2008 @ 21:25 |
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russ the thing is then you are extracting the heat from the inside of your case straight onto the rad. IMO put the rad att he bottom, or the front, i have had to put it in the top, but had i not rushed and thought about it, i should have gotten the rad holes drilled in the bottom.
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3. October 2008 @ 21:51 |
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You know, for the life of me I can't figure out why you have to buy a rear mount kit if you can't install it inside the case?
No matter how well designed a water cooling kit is one with a larger tank and radiator stalled on the outside is going to cool better. The heat is still there no matter how it is being dispersed or drawn away from the processor. Sometimes size and location really does matter.{:>D)
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3. October 2008 @ 21:54 |
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Originally posted by spamual:
russ the thing is then you are extracting the heat from the inside of your case straight onto the rad. IMO put the rad att he bottom, or the front, i have had to put it in the top, but had i not rushed and thought about it, i should have gotten the rad holes drilled in the bottom.
spamual,
My feelings on that is that the temperature inside of the case will be so much lower to begin with. The only real heat left would be the Northbridge and the video card. Even the Northbridge will run a lot cooler, not having the heat from the CPU contributing to it.
Do not put it on the bottom, as it needs to be vertical, at least with the one I'm thinking about getting, or unless it's designed for horizontal operation. Any radiator will not work well laying flat if it's not designed for it, as it needs the help of gravity, or one continuous path through the radiator. The way that this one is made, it has cooling pipes, but they are common to the tanks on both ends of the radiator and needs gravity to allow the cooler water back to the end with the pipes on it! It's a bit more complex than that, but I'm sure you can understand what I'm saying.
Sophocles,
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No matter how well designed a water cooling kit is one with a larger tank and radiator installed on the outside is going to cool better. The heat is still there no matter how it is being dispersed or drawn away from the processor. Sometimes size and location really does matter.{:>D)
That was my feeling too! Without the Freezer 7 Pro contributing to the inside case temps, I don't see any way that it won't run cooler putting it on the back behind the rear exhaust fan! The air coming oof everything else should be at a much lower temperature than with the air cooling.
Best Regards,
Russ
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3. October 2008 @ 23:10 |
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but the CPU cooler normally also helps cool the NB, but then with less heat on it, would it need ot be cooled?
as for the GPU, for me and sam it would be a masive problem, for you with the 7600GT, you will be fine.
if you mounted it verticle or horizontal there would be no problem, IICR, the heatpipe are long ways, not side to side, so it would work against gravity going back up verticlay as it is, butt he flow from the pump should be enough anyways.
i know someone who has tested wither way and only made 1C of difference which can be put down to ambient temps.
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3. October 2008 @ 23:11 |
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Originally posted by Sophocles:
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You know, for the life of me I can't figure out why you have to buy a rear mount kit if you can't install it inside the case?
No matter how well designed a water cooling kit is one with a larger tank and radiator stalled on the outside is going to cool better. The heat is still there no matter how it is being dispersed or drawn away from the processor. Sometimes size and location really does matter.{:>D)
and why is outside mounting/bigger reseviour better?
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3. October 2008 @ 23:13 |
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and why is outside mounting/bigger reseviour better?
It doesn't make compromises for space.
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3. October 2008 @ 23:37 |
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well you wont get much bigger than a 120.3 rad, which is internally mounted in a big case, and a 400ml reseviour.
this to go into a lian li pc-a70b, or soph would it better to go external?
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3. October 2008 @ 23:38 |
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Q9550 EO stepping at Newegg? Perhaps, I don't know but there are some people there claiming to have gotten one.
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Pros: Order Date: 9/29/08
S-Spec SLB8V EO Stepping. Package Date: 9/12/08
The time is now people, newegg finally got rid of the SLAWQ C1 stepping supply and is now shipping EO q9550s.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductRev...N82E16819115041
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3. October 2008 @ 23:40 |
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Regarding mounting the Rad inside the case, my personal preference would be to mount it outside the case and have regular front to back air cooling for the rest of the stuff that is not water cooled.
Honestly with highend GPUs and CPU, not to mention northbridges, the ambient air is just hotter inside the case and it will probably effect the temps.
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3. October 2008 @ 23:44 |
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tbh the best air cooling wwould be bottom to top, like in the silverstone raven case
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3. October 2008 @ 23:46 |
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OR front and bottom to top and rear.
EDIT: this sounds sexual
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3. October 2008 @ 23:54 |
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OK, then how about external units just look really cool and make great conversations pieces as well as great performance. Anytime there is a need to conserve space there are compromises.
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3. October 2008 @ 23:56 |
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thats looks pretty bad ass.
I can't afford water cooling though :(
I'm happy with my Tuniq towers. I can save that extra hundred dollars and get a better video card.
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4. October 2008 @ 00:01 |
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sexy, if i do say so, shame the R3 isnt that good lol!
space saving is for pansies :P
i know lots of people who have had multiple loops with cross fire cards in a small lian-li v350b :D
and boozer, get the water cooling, a q9650 AND a 4870x2 watercooled too :)
will be the beast part of 1.3k ill spend
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4. October 2008 @ 00:02 |
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1300 pounds right? I don't spend more than 900 on a PC, which is like 460 pounds.
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4. October 2008 @ 00:11 |
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yes that would be right.
and unlike for you my pc should last a year, and the watercooling kit remain till it breaks
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