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4. February 2009 @ 17:02 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Maybe that's true, but either way, if I drop the memory speed I can raise the CPU speed higher.



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Once I've achieved high enough processor speed where the laws of diminishing returns sets in then I focus on the best that I can get from my memory. A wide front side bus and high memory speed is especially important with a quad core.

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455 is the absolute limit of X38 for a Quad, and 2.0 or 2.5x only on the memory basically means 910mhz memory speed.



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The P45 chipset can exceed 500 Mhz FSB which might explain the differences. I'll know more about what I'm going to get when I complete my new build. I really needed and extra quad system for BD reencoding and testing because the files takes so long even with a really fast system. I'd considered going with an i7 build but the costs would have been much higher since I have some parts in supply already. TankGuys sell guaranteed Q9550 EO stepping processors with some mediocre RAM for $299. I already have a folding rig with a pair of Dominators so I figured to swap the mediocre stuff with it for the new build.

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Indeed it can, though I have seen several people brick wall on it with Quads at 505.





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your Q9550 will be E0 stepping.Thats where i got my Q9550 from and it was E0 stepping and i also see that the price has dropped.(O well you can't have everything at a lower price)


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The E0s are becoming more and more prevalent these days. Fortunately I got lucky and found one when they were rare, for a mere £5 more than they were to buy normally.



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your Q9550 will be E0 stepping.Thats where i got my Q9550 from and it was E0 stepping and i also see that the price has dropped.
Yes it is in fact an EO stepping which is why I purchased it from TankGuys. They've always been good with acquiring and guaranteeing the best stepping processors. In fact the last time I checked the still had wome Q6600 GO stepping processors in stock.

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Q6600s have been exlusively G0 in the UK for donkey's. I didn't think B3s were still made...




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The B3 stepping processors had flooded the market so that they are still floating around in large numbers. One can order a Q6600 from a site such as Newegg but you are still rolling dice. TankGuys always guarantees their steppings which is worth $5 or $10 for the comfort of knowing what one gets.

The same can be said of Q9550's. The market is so flooded with C1 stepping processors that one really takes a chance ordering them without a Guarantee which as you know is why I went with the Q9650 for my first quad build.

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Hello everyone. So i started playing around in the bios and this is what i was able to get to.

3.8ghz 423x9 1.24v had to bump the volts up one notch from stock.

My memory is currently set to this

Mch Frequency latch 333mhz
System Memory Multiplier 2.40b
Memory frequency 1015mhz

And its all stable!!










So does this look good.

It figures after going crazy figuring this board out Anandtech just put up a review on the same board i have yesterday lol..

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I was overclocking my gpu a bit more and running 3dmark06 in between to check for artifacts when I noticed that my SM2.0 and HDR/SM3.0 scores doubled after raising the core clock and memory clock by 10mhz. I thought that was a bit odd so I checked the settings and ran the test 4 more times, each time getting roughly the same score. What do you guys make of that? I'm not very familiar with either OCing or 3dmark but seeing scores double after only a 10mhz increase is sounds very odd to me.

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They shouldn't double. They will however improve with CPU speed, as modern cards are bottlenecked in 3dmark06 by the CPU. In all but Canyon Flight, I get within 5% of the score I get at default 1280x1024 using 2560x1600 with 4xAA and 16xAF. That's how much the CPU is bottlenecking the system, and it's a 3.87Ghz Quad core.



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If your quad core is bottle necking your system I can only imagine what my dual core at 3.33Ghz is doing to mine lol. Although I did raise the FSB by 5Mhz right before the scores doubled they really shouldn't have doubled like you said. There must have been a processes running in the background that I didn't notice for my first few runs of 3dmark06 as that's the only way I can explain the large increase.


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Indeed, I lost 1000 marks from having a few IM clients open.



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Hey guys, I got a little ahead of myself, and overclocked FSB 10 Mhz. Seems to be stable. But, im curious what you guys recommend for stress testing. My temperature doesnt seem to have gone up either. Couple more bumps, and it'll be running at 3.0!!! But I dont want it creating errors :( Which utility/software is best for discovering errors???



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Well...im in deep doo doo now, LOL. It seems to have locked up on the Gigabyte splash screen. Gives me multiple options, NONE work. Restarting the system has NO effect. Since my last post I bumped to 220mhz. Seemed to be ok. Then I read somewhere that if you bump the FSB you need to drop the HT. So I did, From 1000 to 800(one notch), and I also at the same time bumped the FSB to 230 for my desired 3.0Ghz(close anyway)! Well... I never got to see it. Guess im running the CMOS jumper or simply pulling the bat. Which ever I see first! Any thoughts on the above MUCH appreciated. :)

Ok.. its back up and running. Seems to be really stable with a slite bump. 210 FSB. Infact it might be MORE stable than stock. Well... I dont know where to go beyond a voltage increase. Does my problem sound like thats what it needs, to surpass what ever limit it has? Hmmm, from what ive read from others tweaks, 1.3v could be kinda low, huh? Well...volatage increases are where my TEMPS are gonna increase, RIGHT? If so, im gonna wait til I get a good cooler, and a stress/error detector. I dont wanna be running at higher clocks when it could be causing errors! Any thoughts MUCH appreciated :)



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Remove all but one stick of RAM and restart the system.



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Originally posted by sammorris:
Remove all but one stick of RAM and restart the system.

That simple huh. Well, I already ran the CMOS jump. Looks like a got a con for this board too. I dont like the location soooo close to the GPU. So far thats the only CON though, :)



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Originally posted by omegaman7:
Well...im in deep doo doo now, LOL. It seems to have locked up on the Gigabyte splash screen. Gives me multiple options, NONE work. Restarting the system has NO effect. Since my last post I bumped to 220mhz. Seemed to be ok. Then I read somewhere that if you bump the FSB you need to drop the HT. So I did, From 1000 to 800(one notch), and I also at the same time bumped the FSB to 230 for my desired 3.0Ghz(close anyway)! Well... I never got to see it. Guess im running the CMOS jumper or simply pulling the bat. Which ever I see first! Any thoughts on the above MUCH appreciated. :)

Ok.. its back up and running. Seems to be really stable with a slite bump. 210 FSB. Infact it might be MORE stable than stock. Well... I dont know where to go beyond a voltage increase. Does my problem sound like thats what it needs, to surpass what ever limit it has? Hmmm, from what ive read from others tweaks, 1.3v could be kinda low, huh? Well...volatage increases are where my TEMPS are gonna increase, RIGHT? If so, im gonna wait til I get a good cooler, and a stress/error detector. I dont wanna be running at higher clocks when it could be causing errors! Any thoughts MUCH appreciated :)

Oman7,
From what you said before, there is a definite problem with your cooling. I don't have any where near those temps running Orthos. I can tell you this, turn the frequency back to 210 and leave it before you hurt something on the board. Plenty of time for that, when you get a Kuma! I just figured out that I may have to dump my whole XP install and start over. I had a bad IDE round cable go bad, and it's affecting other things now. Things that ran fine before, won't run now! The Drive ickn of the last ODD would disappear! If you put a disk in anyway, the program stops responding and using task manager to terminate the program would leave only the background and my mouse pointer on the screen. You could move the mouse but not do anything with it. No menus pop up when you R click. Reboot and the drive is back and playing, again! I put a brand new 80 wire cable on it and it's worked ever since. Both drives are going back! The quiet one is just too loud! The other one? ARRGGHHHH!! I don't want them! It may be a problem but Newegg likes to keep me happy! I want something else like the AD-7220! I "will" get a pair, but they will not be the Liteys!

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Originally posted by chop2113:
Hello everyone. So i started playing around in the bios and this is what i was able to get to.

3.8ghz 423x9 1.24v had to bump the volts up one notch from stock.

My memory is currently set to this

Mch Frequency latch 333mhz
System Memory Multiplier 2.40b
Memory frequency 1015mhz

And its all stable!!

So does this look good.

It figures after going crazy figuring this board out Anandtech just put up a review on the same board i have yesterday lol..

Great oc at low volts...I've seen those boards at 4.4ghz at 1.312volts stable all day...What's your Batch# on that cpu? If I bought another Gigabyte board it would be the UD3P that's one of the best oc'ing board they made yet:)

Done out of Here!

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I'm afraid i'll be unable to get the batch number. The box the CPU came in is long gone. See... I buy alot of equipment online, among other things, and boxes pile up. I burn every other weekend. But anyway, if there is another way of retrieving it, im all ears, LOL.

Hey russ, When you say Kuma, you do mean the Quad phenomII right? Cause I was under the impression that a Kuma was a Dual core similar to the Phenom architecture.
Originally posted by Wikipedia.org:
Kuma, an Athlon X2 core based on Phenom CPU





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O-man7 I've only touched on some of the posts here about your OC'in adventure but have you increased your cpu voltage yet? A little bump won't hurt anything and I'm sure a little search on the cpu you have will shed light on the MAX voltage you can put it thru. You may have to check on your RAM voltage as well along with your FSB if it's possible. ;)

Another thing to look at is using your BIOS to check your temps. I'm sure there's a health tab somewhere. :P

As always good luck!!!

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Yah...I think ultimately it COULD happen! But this processor and MSI board are going to my sis :) So I dont wanna torture it too much, LOL. I just wanted to learn a couple things before I pick up the PhenomII. Thanks for your input GM :D Something tells me the Phenom'l handle ALOT of what i'll dish out to it. It'll be ALL board faults. It probably does need a volt bump, but I just ran Orthos, and watched the temp level at 60C PEAK, and without proper cooling, I wont even LOOK at the voltage bump, LOL. In my opinion, 60C is just too warm for a device entrusted with handling complex calculations, LOL. :D



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Originally posted by omegaman7:
I'm afraid i'll be unable to get the batch number. The box the CPU came in is long gone. See... I buy alot of equipment online, among other things, and boxes pile up. I burn every other weekend. But anyway, if there is another way of retrieving it, im all ears, LOL.

Hey russ, When you say Kuma, you do mean the Quad phenomII right? Cause I was under the impression that a Kuma was a Dual core similar to the Phenom architecture.
Originally posted by Wikipedia.org:
Kuma, an Athlon X2 core based on Phenom CPU



Based on Transistor count it has to be a two core Phenom II. Something they can sell cheap to turn a total loss into some sort of a gain. It's also the only Dual Core that's an AM2+ chip. I'm going to reload everything tomorrow and get the right boot drive going instead of the 250! That bad cable I had for the ODDs could have messed up something! I'm going to leave the speed where it is and Install XP-Pro on it all over again! I want to change the partitioning of the boot drive too and make the C drive smaller using the Seagate 160! The DeathStar makes too much full time use noise!

Russ


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