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8. February 2009 @ 02:54 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
It seems overclocking the gpu has caused my system to lose the restart ability. It will shut down, run and start fine; but it will get hung up if told to restart. Doesn't really bother except gives me the feeling the system isn't entirely stable.
I'm not sure RivaTuner is setting the speeds properly as sometimes the new core clock and memory clock speeds aren't reflected in the monitor. Do you guy's think the speeds aren't changing or just the monitor isn't reflecting the change?

Thanks for the help,

Parker


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8. February 2009 @ 03:15 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
3D clock speeds (which are what you overclock) only show up under a full screen program, the only way you'd see them is to run a program like GPUZ to log in the background and check the graph when you close the 3D program.



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Thanks sam; I'll start logging with GPUz to make sure it's running at the desired speed.

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8. February 2009 @ 11:33 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
@Bigwill68

My batch on my cpu is Q832A366

By the way thanks for that info helped tons as you can see.I still think i should be able to get to run my memory at its rated speed. When i start my media pc build i will go for a pair of corsair dominators and try them out and see.I see ppl have gotten good results with them.
After reading everything about this motherboard and its reviews yes i am quite happy about the purchase i've made. This board definitely is a bang for your buck board. I bought it on sale for 119.99 and that is a steal. Even if it wasn't on sale i still would have paid the 139.99 for this board.Made my first build very satisfactory and not too stressful. Only the memory but i blame that on the patriots not the board.

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8. February 2009 @ 18:56 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by chop2113:
@Bigwill68

My batch on my cpu is Q832A366


thanks I'll look into that batch number of yours and see how it's doin amongs other boards in the oc'ing capability at low volts as...
I have seen the Q830a and above are doin much better as the number grows my Q820a is maxed out at 4.5ghz at 1.344v...stable... I would'en take it no futher but..I dropped it down to 4.0ghz at 1.312v stable no reason to run it that high all the time at 4.5...
i can only tell the diffrent in the sandra Mip tests...
it seems that if get right batch number and well matched mb you got it but sometime it don't work out like that all parts don't work well together it's a luck of the draw...lol in the Oc'ing field but some people get crazy with the volts and burn them up fast...Not I belive me it's temping to do..I done it once with my E6750 pushed it pass 1.5v to reach 3.8ghz done stable but hurryed and got it back down but...I know..I shorted it's life just by doin that for alittle while leave well enough alone it rest at 3.0 now for now on...:)also..I found they sell the (B) chips across sea's Asia and Europe so yours over there should be Q832B keep your eye out for that...I don't know what is the big difference between A and B is the E6600's was the same way:(

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9. February 2009 @ 00:10 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Alright I've been trying to test the stability of my gpu OC for a little bit now but I can't seem to find any reliable way to test it.
3dmark isn't really a stability test although it seems to me that if it's 3dmark stable it's real-life stable (not fully tested just first impressions from a couple hours of normal use).
Next I tried FurMark which had mixed results. It would crash/freeze after a few minutes at speeds near those that 3dmark was fine with, except all but once I was able to just close FurMark when it froze so I'm not sure what caused FurMark to quit working.
ATITOOL has got to be the strangest of the bunch though and I don't know what to make of it. What are the yellow flecks that appear during artifact scanning? They appear before ATITool detects artifacts and when the card is at default clock and memory speed (68C temp). Most say they are artifacts but one did say they were just a glitch in ATITool, which seems more likely since my card has been running at the previous OC it's entire life and never once did I experience any artifacts or instability. How would you guy's test for stability?

Thanks in advance,

Parker


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9. February 2009 @ 00:13 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Not so I'm afraid. I encounter several occasions where GPu is stable enough to pass 3dmark but will crash after a while in a real game. Fortunately, the scaling of GPU overclocks is pretty strict. If it crashes in 3dmark, just take it down a couple of notches and you'll usually be fine.
Yellow flecks are artifacts, that's how they manifest themselves in ATITool. The scanner is just a bit poor at picking them up. The second you see a yellow speck appear in that cube, you stop the test, and drop the speeds down a notch.



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Do you think it's possible ATITool doesn't work with my gpu properly? If I wanted to remove the yellow flecks I'd have to drop the core and memory speed below the default speed which doesn't sound right to me. If there have been artifacts the past 1.5 years I've never seen them so I guess it doesn't really matter if they're they're there or not lol.


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9. February 2009 @ 00:45 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
remind me, what GPU do you have? Not in your sig...



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My GPU is a 8800GTS. FYI the cpuz validator pic is a link to full system info (mine is a bit out of date atm, all the hardware is the same though).

Thanks for the help,

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Hmm, I haven't seen any problems with the most recent build of ATITool and 8800s, but if you don't see artifacts in real life, you've nothing to worry about. 3DMark06 is surprisingly good at showing artifacts. I've never seen an artifact at a setting where there haven't been any in 3dmark.



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9. February 2009 @ 12:07 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Those are exactly my thoughts; thanks for the confirmation.


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10. February 2009 @ 02:28 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hi Guys,

I just got a request from a friend of mine who wants me to overclock his q6600. This wouldnt be a problem if it was a Gigabyte motherboard, unfortunatly its not!, its an ASUS P5KPL-CM and havent a clue where to start fiddling inside the Bios!. Heres his specs:

ASUS P5KPL-CM / Bios Version 08.00.12 / Bios Type: AMI(05/19/08)
Q6600
Memory is 3gig of some sort of generic crap.

If anyone can help I would be most appreciative!

Regarads -->> Sheeny

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10. February 2009 @ 02:33 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by sheeny33:
Hi Guys,

I just got a request from a friend of mine who wants me to overclock his q6600. This wouldnt be a problem if it was a Gigabyte motherboard, unfortunatly its not!, its an ASUS P5KPL-CM and havent a clue where to start fiddling inside the Bios!. Heres his specs:

ASUS P5KPL-CM / Bios Version 08.00.12 / Bios Type: AMI(05/19/08)
Q6600
Memory is 3gig of some sort of generic crap.

If anyone can help I would be most appreciative!

Regarads -->> Sheeny
If it was a gigabyte, HUH? Well...just made me feel somewhat helpless. I have a gigabyte, and my overclocking got ran short, til I can do some research into my processor, ram, etc. I hope this doesnt sound like anger. Its more like frustration. Frustrated that the knowledge just isnt coming quick enough, LOL :D



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That's a really weak board, I'd hold off overclocking it. Doesn't really have much to do with it being an Asus, but it's a very basic board, and won't have solid enough power regulation to overclock a quad without melting. (Overclocking a Quad requires an 8-pin CPU power connector to avoid fire hazards)



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Originally posted by sammorris:
That's a really weak board, I'd hold off overclocking it. Doesn't really have much to do with it being an Asus, but it's a very basic board, and won't have solid enough power regulation to overclock a quad without melting. (Overclocking a Quad requires an 8-pin CPU power connector to avoid fire hazards)
Hi Sam,

Yeah I totally agree, just looking at it, it looks erm crap!. I think my friend and his wife have been ripped off actually, the power supply they have in it is a RITMO (Nasty), Ive seen thicker silver foil than what thats wrapped in!

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10. February 2009 @ 16:39 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Quick question, when you talk about cpu voltage is that before or after Vdrop?


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Originally posted by eparker89:
Quick question, when you talk about cpu voltage is that before or after Vdrop?

eparker89,
It depends on the motherboard. My new GigaByte MA790GP-Ds4H has no Vdrop at all, in fact it slightly raises the voltage under load!

Vdrop is there for a reason, to provide a buffer to prevent damage by a sudden increase in voltage. Without Vdrop it could fry things! How they do it with my new MB, I can't say. But it works just fine!

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hehe, completely forgot about the MB differences. TBH I don't like the idea of the MB raising Vcore, would probably make me nervous lol.


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Quick question guys, will a GTX295 work on a ASUS P5KPL-CM motherboard??

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It should, but why on earth would you use one with a system that basic?



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Well...I just witnessed something VERY unusual. Atleast to me. Im watching my CPU stats jump all over the place via CPU-Z! Multiplier, core voltage, core speed, FSB, literally all specs! This is windows 7 by the way! Probably some power scheme! I dont like seeing my voltage vary by .3 volts though. That suggests the possibility of instability if you ask me! Well... I guess the cpu will run pretty cool in idle though.



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FSB shouldn't change, but multiplier and CPU volts will vary significantly, that's speedstep in action.



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Originally posted by sammorris:
FSB shouldn't change, but multiplier and CPU volts will vary significantly, that's speedstep in action.
Ahhh! Thank you for VERY much for that education :D Speedstep: OR STEPPING??? The FSB didnt vary much. I only seen it change by 5mhz. That doesnt seem significant to me. Although that depends on the multiplier i'd imagine :)



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Originally posted by sammorris:
FSB shouldn't change, but multiplier and CPU volts will vary significantly, that's speedstep in action.

Sam,
Unless they call it something different, I don't see and EIST or speedstep on my AMD board! I think he may have the AMD K8 Cool and Quiet turned on! It does things like that when idling!

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