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breddick
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2. April 2005 @ 09:44 |
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Great thread! I've been looking for answers like these!
One question though... I've seen it stated a few times that Lite-on burners prefer DVD+R media. Well I've got a Lite-on SOHW-1673S on the way from newegg right now. I've been searching for media to buy and I thought DVD-R was the way to go but now I'm not so sure. I may want to send my home movie dvd's to relatives that have different players so "player compatiblity is probably more important to me than burner compatibility (if that makes sense?)
My dvd player is an RCA drc220 if that matters.
Also, since this will be my first experience burning dvd's should I just buy a small # of disks for starters???
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2. April 2005 @ 09:47 |
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not all lite-ons. i buy -R exclusively, have never used a +R myself, nor had compatibility problems on any drives/players.. It's just that i started out using -R and stuck with them..
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2. April 2005 @ 10:05 |
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breddick,
You will have better performance and far less compatability issues if you use good quality +r media and use the lite-on bitsetting utility to booktype your dvd vidios to dvd-rom (most compatable format, same format as retail, pressed dvd's)(can only be done with dvd+r/rw media). Lite-ons will burn good quality -r's ok but do perform better with +r. Here's a good place to read and learn about lite-on's pros, cons, likes, and dislikes.
http://club.cdfreaks.com/forumdisplay.php?f=44
I would recommend trying some burns on a good quality dvd+rw first that way you can rewrite to it if you have any problems. You won't need many rw's so look for the smallest quantity available. Some good brands of rw's would be Maxell, Sony, TDK and Fuji. The best performing +r media I have found is Verbatum DLP (media code MCC003) with Taiyo Yuden (media code YUDEN000T02) not far behind. Btw stay away from memorex period.
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breddick
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2. April 2005 @ 13:46 |
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Mort81,
I took your advice and just picked up a 10 pack of Sony dvd+rw's from best buy. I was going to get the fujifilm because they had a 5 pack, but I looked on the back and the fuji's where made in Taiwan. The Sony's where made in Japan which I've read is best.
Anyway, 10 disks should keep me busy for quite a while!!!
If I see that the +R format is working well for me I'll probably buy a bulk pack of TY's on'line.
Thanks!
PS: If the dvd+rw works well for me can I expect the same results with the dvd+r?
Thanks!
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2. April 2005 @ 15:07 |
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breddick,
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PS: If the dvd+rw works well for me can I expect the same results with the dvd+r?
Yes you should as long as you stay with good quality media.
Did you look at that link I provided? You can find the download for the lite-on bitsetting utility under lite-on tools collection along with instructions on how to use it. I booktype all my burns dvd-rom and am yet to find a player that won't play em. There is also a nice (free) tool called KProbe that only works with lite-on drives for scanning your discs after burning to check for PI/PIF errors.
Those Sony's were probably a good choice. Use this free utility to see what the MID code is and let me know. http://dvd.identifier.cdfreaks.com/
I have a ten pack of Sony dvd+rw's MID code Phillips 041 and they have performed flawlessly. They have been overwritten dozens of times. I've only used three, no need to use the others while these are still performing so well.
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breddick
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2. April 2005 @ 15:57 |
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Your advice is much appreciated!!! I haven't had a chance to look at the sites that you mentioned but I'll do it asap. I downloaded the "dvd identifier" but since my burner is still on a fedex truck I won't be able to get you that info just yet! hehe
I'll go get the Kprobe tool and check into the bitsetting utility that you mentioned. I'm new to this part of computing so I'm trying to absorb as much as possible.
I wanted to buy less than the 10 pack but's that's all they had that was from Japan. I don't figure I'll need very many but I'll have them if I do!
I'll post again when I get the burner installed... should be Tuesday or Wednesday.
Thanks!
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movies27
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2. April 2005 @ 19:00 |
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Fuji made in Taiwan...ouch..i hardly ever never see that i wander what the code would be on those? But IMO dvd-r are the most compatible with all dvd players.
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2. April 2005 @ 19:13 |
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Taiyo Yuden all the way!
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2. April 2005 @ 19:40 |
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Dvd-rom is the most compatable format. Ask any senior member, addict, or mod. This is the same format that the retail, pressed dvd's are.
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2. April 2005 @ 19:46 |
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Mort81 is correct,DVD-ROM is the most compatable format,for thats why when we all rent movies and watch them they always usually play in our players.
"Leadership is the art of getting someone else to do something you want done because he wants to do it."
"Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired, signifies in the final sense a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed."
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movies27
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2. April 2005 @ 23:11 |
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yea but they only sell dvd-r or + r in the stores to my knowledge.
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3. April 2005 @ 00:30 |
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mort81 & recondo meant to say DVD+R 'is the most compatable format'
i often read this statement, but as have always used -R from the start, and they play in PS2, all manner of standalone, whether old/new, cheap or expensive, have yet to see proof of this. Not knocking it, i just haven't had any playback issues like that
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3. April 2005 @ 03:12 |
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I have to go along with jka80. In the past I had three different dvd burners and most of my dvd recording were hit and miss. Now, I first decrypt the movie to a folder using DVD Decrypter, then I use DVD Shrink to get rid of all the extra junk, then I use Roxio Easy Media Creator 7 to burn the DVD using one of my two Plextor PX-716SA (Serial ATA)burners. I have been using mostly low name or no name DVD-R's and have only created one (1) coaster out the last 300 or so dvd's that I burned. Using the Plextor burner, Roxio offers to burn 8x blanks at 16x and 2.4x DL discs at 4x. I don't know what I've been doing right, I only know that I am getting outstanding results using the combination of software and hardware that use.
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3. April 2005 @ 05:24 |
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Changing the format to dvd-rom is the most compatible,followed by -r then +r.However some burners dont support bitsetting,so then -r is the most compatible.
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3. April 2005 @ 06:25 |
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i like ritek go4 and go5 me like aint had no problems with them as yet and i have been using datawrite 8x fuji dye and they have been ok up to now and pritty reasobnabbly priced
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3. April 2005 @ 10:17 |
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yea but they only sell dvd-r or + r in the stores to my knowledge
You need to read the rest of my other threads. +r is the ony one that can be booktyped to dvd-rom.
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mort81 & recondo meant to say DVD+R 'is the most compatable format'
No, I said dvd-rom is the most compatable format. If your burner is capable of bitsettig to dvd-rom and this can only be done on +r, then +r will be more compatable. If not then -r will be.
For those only concerned about compatability issues with set top players their best bet is to buy a burner capable of bitsetting and use +r media booktyped to dvd-rom.
Ones I know of: pioneer and lg will not, lite-ons and their counter parts, late model sonys and late model memorexes, benq and their counter parts, phillips, and plextors will, nec with f/w mod will also.
For those set in their ways and having good results with their present way of making buckups thats great carry on but don't say it is the best way because facts are facts.
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3. April 2005 @ 10:27 |
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mort81 & recondo meant to say DVD+R 'is the most compatable format'
mort81 dont you hate it when somebody speaks for you?especially when they are WRONG!
-r edges out +r for compatibility by just a bit.
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3. April 2005 @ 10:31 |
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i was meaning writable media (i myself prefer -R, but everyone has their own view on what's most compatible)
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3. April 2005 @ 10:31 |
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Hey jd,
Ya, but you get used to it after a while he he. I'm not here to argue only help ya know.
creaky,
I'm not trying to argue with you buddy but dvd+r media is writable and dvd+r booktyped dvd-rom is the most compatable. Thats not a view or opinion thats a fact.
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3. April 2005 @ 11:00 |
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Well im not on here to argue either, but -r is slighty more compatible than +r. And thats not an opinion either it is also a fact.
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3. April 2005 @ 11:23 |
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i'm not arguing. it's the 2nd time today i've been the wrong side of you JD, my bad.
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3. April 2005 @ 12:23 |
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I read a VERY informative piece about comparing the plus & dash format, it was in a link on a thread on this site. For the life of me I do not remember which thread it was! It was a well researched & extremely learned document, which the writer had co-operation from major laser manufacturers.
I do not consider my self thick, but to be honest 90% of it went right over my head! The end result was that the plus format IS better than the dash format. More reliable burns etc. It all boiled down to "wobble frequencies" of the lasers. This opinion was echoed by the manufactures too.
I will do my best to find the article for you to read, hopefully I will find it & put the link in. Unless anyone here knows where it is. If I remember correctly it was on the CD Freaks forum, but I may be wrong!
Pulsar
Here is a link, not the article I originally wanted, but interesting enough. The last paragraph says it all!
http://www.cdfreaks.com/article/122
Here is the link I wanted, whooppeeee!!
http://www.cdfreaks.com/article/113
I have had the best results using +RW format with my system. To be honest, I do not remember the last failure I had!
That's me screwed now!!
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3. April 2005 @ 16:39 |
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I* didnt mean to stitr any sh-t but the most5 compatable format is DVD-ROM the next compatable is whatever your hardware likes right.Experiment, find out what your players and writers like, just like I did thats the only way you will learn.
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movies27
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3. April 2005 @ 18:26 |
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-R is more compatible...it was the first format to come out then came +R format...
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3. April 2005 @ 22:46 |
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good points all, maybe let's try and get back on the track of best media as opposed to whether it's - or +.
This thread nosedived yesterday and today is a new day
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