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Tinker Bell, DVDFAB 5.1.0.0 Won't Back up
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9. November 2008 @ 08:54 |
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Originally posted by rtm27:
Originally posted by Jaknife:
I just got Tinkerbell from [da sto] for my kids. I've tried DVD Shrink, DVD Fab and DVD Decrypter, but none are able to break it, so I can't even get just the movie on to my hardrive. I've had trouble with Disney DVDs before, but DVD Fab usually breaks it, wondering if they've got a new encryption that these programs can't handle. At this point I'm just looking to get the movie [on my HDD], then burn to disc. If anybody has any suggestions I'd appreciate it, thanks.
Yeah, well the programs do have a problem with movies that are not owned, but are rented or borrowed. They tend to work only with movies that you own.
rtm makes an excellent point.
Now it seems that you got the movie and were able to watch it. lol. If you want to buy it now I'm sure that Walmart will have it cheap!! :P
Sorry couldn't resist the fun. :D
.....gm
edited: At the request of jaknife, I edited my content to "cover" some silliness. ;) Classy change on their part and request if you ask me. :)
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9. November 2008 @ 09:03 |
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I just got Tinkerbell from the library for my kids.
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9. November 2008 @ 10:21 |
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Originally posted by ZoSoIV:
you have to have this version of dvd shrink to autoburn with imgburn
http://www.dvdplusvideo.com/DVD_Shrink_3_2_b_w_IB.zip
That's exactly what I got, I've downloaded it from your link but it still is the same problem, it doesn't give me a choice of burning without doing an ISO image and that's no good for me. I don't know what's wrong, but it just doesn't give that choice no matter that it's that version and I've copied the file from the sub-sub directory in your zip.
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9. November 2008 @ 10:35 |
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I know what you're doing wrong.. I don't ever create movie ISO's personally but i mooched around in Shrink and you've got the wrong option selected, see here -
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9. November 2008 @ 11:01 |
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Originally posted by creaky:
I know what you're doing wrong.. I don't ever create movie ISO's personally but i mooched around in Shrink and you've got the wrong option selected, see here -
In mine I had an option that says Burn With: and then the choice was NERO, shouldn't there be the same thing with the choice of IMGburn? I mean you do want to burn automaticly to DVD with the software don't you? I know I do since I don't want to waste time and sit in front of my computer to wait.
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9. November 2008 @ 13:36 |
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Jaknife, NO rent and burn discussion on this site, that is piracy,edit you're post
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9. November 2008 @ 15:26 |
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Originally posted by JSaumur:
Use DVD Shrink with AnyDVD HD version 6.4.3.2, it will crack any Disney movie, worked for me so far. The problem I had was that the new NERO version doesn't work to well with DVD Shrink, you need to keep it below version 8 or use IMGBurn.
Thanks, J, I appreciate it. I will let you know how it turns out.
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9. November 2008 @ 15:32 |
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Originally posted by ZoSoIV:
Jaknife, NO rent and burn discussion on this site, that is piracy,edit you're post
Sorry for the dumb newbie move, you are absolutely right. Thanks.
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10. November 2008 @ 22:00 |
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Shrink will open ISO files, Discs, and Files from Video_TS. It outputs in Files or ISO. There are different output options to choose from in backup options as shown above and one not shown. DVDCopy from VSO is an option (for supported burner) when the program is present on the hard drive. I have the necessary option selected for use with ImgBurn. You create an ISO image which is automatically burned with ImgBurn. Have the recordable DVD in the hard drive and the settings right and all you do is click OK in the Backup window and let the program go. You will need to delete the ISO image when you're finished. I noticed that JSaumur is using the version of Shrink that supports using DVD Decrypter as a supported burner. That is the difference, his verison uses DVDD and the Shrink that supports ImgBurn replaces DVDD with ImgBurn.
If you want to view a video ISO on one of your PC player programs, you will need to load it on a simulated drive. The Nero suite has one and there should be a free one in the hardware section here at AD. You can use the viewer in Shrink without the need for a sim drive. A video ISO in a sim drive plays the same in player software (like Showtime) as a DVD loaded in a physical drive. An ISO is nothing more than a container package for holding the Video_TS and Audio_TS files as seen on a DVD. Open the video ISO created by Shrink with WinRar and you'll see what I'm saying.
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10. November 2008 @ 23:28 |
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Originally posted by PacMan777:
Shrink will open ISO files, Discs, and Files from Video_TS. It outputs in Files or ISO. There are different output options to choose from in backup options as shown above and one not shown. DVDCopy from VSO is an option (for supported burner) when the program is present on the hard drive. I have the necessary option selected for use with ImgBurn. You create an ISO image which is automatically burned with ImgBurn. Have the recordable DVD in the hard drive and the settings right and all you do is click OK in the Backup window and let the program go. You will need to delete the ISO image when you're finished. I noticed that JSaumur is using the version of Shrink that supports using DVD Decrypter as a supported burner. That is the difference, his verison uses DVDD and the Shrink that supports ImgBurn replaces DVDD with ImgBurn.
If you want to view a video ISO on one of your PC player programs, you will need to load it on a simulated drive. The Nero suite has one and there should be a free one in the hardware section here at AD. You can use the viewer in Shrink without the need for a sim drive. A video ISO in a sim drive plays the same in player software (like Showtime) as a DVD loaded in a physical drive. An ISO is nothing more than a container package for holding the Video_TS and Audio_TS files as seen on a DVD. Open the video ISO created by Shrink with WinRar and you'll see what I'm saying.
Ok, you don't get it, I've been repeating myself here. I said previously if you read my reply, that I don't want to create an ISO image, I want to be able to use that DVD after it's done and play it in my home theatre on my television. Therefore, if I base on the image you showed above, you don't have that options on yours either except if you use NERO which is a problem right now. I don't know where you got the fact that I had a different version of DVDSHRINK, I've downloaded the same version that everybody is talking about here, I got it from this site from a reply of you guys and unziped it, installed it, copied the file from the subdirectory to the DVDSHRINK directory. Therefore I have the same version. In brief, for what I see from your picture above, IMGBURN doesn't work with DVDSHRINK to burn a full blown copy usable right away without using an ISO image.
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11. November 2008 @ 00:25 |
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Originally posted by JSaumur:
Originally posted by PacMan777:
Shrink will open ISO files, Discs, and Files from Video_TS. It outputs in Files or ISO. There are different output options to choose from in backup options as shown above and one not shown. DVDCopy from VSO is an option (for supported burner) when the program is present on the hard drive. I have the necessary option selected for use with ImgBurn. You create an ISO image which is automatically burned with ImgBurn. Have the recordable DVD in the hard drive and the settings right and all you do is click OK in the Backup window and let the program go. You will need to delete the ISO image when you're finished. I noticed that JSaumur is using the version of Shrink that supports using DVD Decrypter as a supported burner. That is the difference, his verison uses DVDD and the Shrink that supports ImgBurn replaces DVDD with ImgBurn.
If you want to view a video ISO on one of your PC player programs, you will need to load it on a simulated drive. The Nero suite has one and there should be a free one in the hardware section here at AD. You can use the viewer in Shrink without the need for a sim drive. A video ISO in a sim drive plays the same in player software (like Showtime) as a DVD loaded in a physical drive. An ISO is nothing more than a container package for holding the Video_TS and Audio_TS files as seen on a DVD. Open the video ISO created by Shrink with WinRar and you'll see what I'm saying.
Ok, you don't get it, I've been repeating myself here. I said previously if you read my reply, that I don't want to create an ISO image, I want to be able to use that DVD after it's done and play it in my home theatre on my television. Therefore, if I base on the image you showed above, you don't have that options on yours either except if you use NERO which is a problem right now. I don't know where you got the fact that I had a different version of DVDSHRINK, I've downloaded the same version that everybody is talking about here, I got it from this site from a reply of you guys and unziped it, installed it, copied the file from the subdirectory to the DVDSHRINK directory. Therefore I have the same version. In brief, for what I see from your picture above, IMGBURN doesn't work with DVDSHRINK to burn a full blown copy usable right away without using an ISO image.
Ok. Let me have a go at some questions and maybe some answers. lol.
JSaumur do you want to create a DVD of the movie you just backed up? If so you will have to use either Nero or imgburn as the burning engine and if you choose imgburn you'll have to have an ISO image to do so. Even if you use the burn folder option with imgburn it creates the ISO and then burns. If you're just wanting to burn the TS files then use Nero and be happy. ;)
NOW if you're wanting to run the image from your computer and play on the TV then you have some other options. PowerDVD, Nero Showtime, MPC, and some others will play those files for you.
Clarification is needed to make any more suggestions.
hth....
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11. November 2008 @ 00:40 |
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Originally posted by greensman:
Originally posted by JSaumur:
Originally posted by PacMan777:
Shrink will open ISO files, Discs, and Files from Video_TS. It outputs in Files or ISO. There are different output options to choose from in backup options as shown above and one not shown. DVDCopy from VSO is an option (for supported burner) when the program is present on the hard drive. I have the necessary option selected for use with ImgBurn. You create an ISO image which is automatically burned with ImgBurn. Have the recordable DVD in the hard drive and the settings right and all you do is click OK in the Backup window and let the program go. You will need to delete the ISO image when you're finished. I noticed that JSaumur is using the version of Shrink that supports using DVD Decrypter as a supported burner. That is the difference, his verison uses DVDD and the Shrink that supports ImgBurn replaces DVDD with ImgBurn.
If you want to view a video ISO on one of your PC player programs, you will need to load it on a simulated drive. The Nero suite has one and there should be a free one in the hardware section here at AD. You can use the viewer in Shrink without the need for a sim drive. A video ISO in a sim drive plays the same in player software (like Showtime) as a DVD loaded in a physical drive. An ISO is nothing more than a container package for holding the Video_TS and Audio_TS files as seen on a DVD. Open the video ISO created by Shrink with WinRar and you'll see what I'm saying.
Ok, you don't get it, I've been repeating myself here. I said previously if you read my reply, that I don't want to create an ISO image, I want to be able to use that DVD after it's done and play it in my home theatre on my television. Therefore, if I base on the image you showed above, you don't have that options on yours either except if you use NERO which is a problem right now. I don't know where you got the fact that I had a different version of DVDSHRINK, I've downloaded the same version that everybody is talking about here, I got it from this site from a reply of you guys and unziped it, installed it, copied the file from the subdirectory to the DVDSHRINK directory. Therefore I have the same version. In brief, for what I see from your picture above, IMGBURN doesn't work with DVDSHRINK to burn a full blown copy usable right away without using an ISO image.
Ok. Let me have a go at some questions and maybe some answers. lol.
JSaumur do you want to create a DVD of the movie you just backed up? If so you will have to use either Nero or imgburn as the burning engine and if you choose imgburn you'll have to have an ISO image to do so. Even if you use the burn folder option with imgburn it creates the ISO and then burns. If you're just wanting to burn the TS files then use Nero and be happy. ;)
NOW if you're wanting to run the image from your computer and play on the TV then you have some other options. PowerDVD, Nero Showtime, MPC, and some others will play those files for you.
Clarification is needed to make any more suggestions.
hth....
...gm
I can't believe this, I don't want to be rude or anything, but do you actually take time to read what people write before answering? I think I was pretty straight forward when I said I wanted to burn a movie directly from DVDSHRINK to the DVD disc. In other word 1- insert original movie in DVD player, 2- Open DVDSHRINK program, 3- select backup from DVDSHRINK options, 4- Chose Backup target as Burn with: ________ on the DVD recorder drive (NOT CHOSING ISO IMAGE BURNING). 5- Final end product from the DVD recorder drive can be remove and put directly into a home theatre system for viewing.
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Well you were rude and yes I read the f...ing post. BUT as all of us have said you CAN'T burn with imgburn to disc using the TS folder (automatically)!!! Use Nero if that's what you want. Shrink will do it automatically if you don't mind the step of using the ISO.
Oh and DVDShrink is all but useless when "backing up" DVD's now. I'm guessing you're using another progie to "decode" the DVD, Shrink might work in conjunction with AnyDVD but I don't know. I use RI4M and DVDFab now.
If I backup a DVD now and have to Shrink it at all I use DVD RB Pro. Great program and worth the $30 or so for the software. :D
....gm
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Simple English.
What about autoburn don't you understand?
There are only 4 burner programs supported by DVD Shrink that will autoburn:
Nero (below version 8)
DVDCopy (VSO software)
DVD Decrypter
ImgBurn (needs supporting exe and replaces DVD Decrypter)
DVD Decrypter or ImgBurn creates an ISO image and then automatically burns it.
Nero or DVDCopy creates a temp file it automatically erases after the burn is done.
You can autoburn with ImgBurn and get a DVD that plays on a standalone player.
The process does leave behind an ISO image that will eventually need to be erased.
If you don't want to erase said ISO, then don't use the ImgBurn or DVD Decrypter options.
I explained how Shrink needs a different exe to support ImgBurn.
I supplied a picture of what the Backup command box looks like and the option to select for autoburning with ImgBurn.
You said you wanted to be able to autoburn without having to enter the burn program while using Shrink.
That is what the supported burners for Shrink do.
With ImgBurn supported that means you can autoburn with it.
I'll repeat the Question.
What is difficult to understand about autoburning?
The output from ImgBurn can be burned direct to DVD the same as using other supported burner programs.
Nero nor DVD Decrypter are needed if you have ImgBurn and the Shrink exe that supports it.
Nero and DVD Decrypter show as options even when not loaded.
DVDCopy doesn't appear unless loaded on the PC's hard drive.
As I said, if removing the ISO created by ImgBurn is a problem, then don't use it.
That leaves only Nero and DVDCopy as autoburn options.
As for creating an ISO or Video_TS folder, what's the problem?
Both ISO and Video_TS contain the same video files.
The ISO is only a container for the Video_TS folder (containing the video files).
According to how you want to process ISO and Video_TS, you only need different software or different command selections.
And yes you were rude.
You upset our friend Greensman. LOL
He's our softhearted member and easily hurt. ;)
Greensman
PowerDVD and most similar programs won't open a video ISO for playing unless the ISO is loaded in a program like Nero ImageDrive. The ISO can contain the Video_TS folder. ISO can be looked at as a transport package for holding the Video_TS files (for instance transmitting over the web or burning). If you notice, when you burn a video ISO with the right software, you won't see an ISO on the DVD you recorded to. Nero, ImgBurn and other video burning programs are able to take the Video_TS from the ISO "package" and burn only the Video_TS and included files to DVD. If you record the ISO itself (in ISO format), to the DVD, you will have a problem playing it.
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Don't worry about it. He doesn't understand the software that well. If the software is set correctly, all the user does is put the original DVD in the DVD player drive, open the Disc in Shrink, and choose create ISO and burn with Shrink. Of course that means recordable DVD in a DVD burner drive and the program output set to that burner drive. The difference between the ISO and ImgBurn and using Nero 7 (or below) is that a temp file is used with Nero and automatically erased after the burn. The ISO with ImgBurn requires deleting the ISO manually. That's after the DVD is burned automatically. As I mentioned above, if the user doesn't want to erase the ISO, then use Nero or DVDCopy. As you know Nero, DVDCopy, DVD Decrypter and Imgburn are the only supported options. If JSaumur had paid attention to my posts, he would have noticed that and how they worked.
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JSaumur - My own answer didn't quite hit the mark as i don't do autoburning and wasn't going to install the Imgburn-capable version of DVD Shrink just for replying to a forum post. Anyways, it seems the others have clarified the bit i didn't know, ie Shrink can call Imgburn automatically but will only burn in ISO mode automatically.
Nero can (manually) allow burning of the VIDEO_TS folder, and Imgburn can do the same. To do this in Imgburn you (manually) choose the topmost/rightmost icon ie 'Write files/folders to disc'.
This is going nowhere so you need to adapt what you're doing very slightly. I personally don't/won't do autoburning with any program.
As the others have said, DVD Shrink is ancient in terms of being able to rip the newer movies, so encryption-wise it needs help from a.n.other program first, ie DVDFab or AnyDVD.
My own movie ripping/watching is very simple indeed -
I rip with DVDFab, in either full disc mode (for episodic discs) or main movie mode.
If the movie needs shrinking (even a little) i use DVDFab Platinum (paid for thus has extra features) or more than likely i'll use DVD Rebuilder. Either way i don't bother using DVD Shrink anymore.
If the full disc mode needs shrinking i use DVD Rebuilder, Shrink can't compete with Rebuilder for episodics, Period.
Anyway (before i lose the will to live), i use imgburn to burn the movie files ie the VIDEO_TS folder, using the icon i mentioned in the above screenshot.
If however, i need to make 2 or more copies of the same movie, i use Nero and it's multiple recorder feature, ie it will write the same data to multiple drives concurrently.
Either way i personally don't like autoburning, i like the movies all saved on a hard drive and burn at my leisure using both the (manual) methods i just mentioned.
Now surely that explains it all, along with everyone else's replies ??...
edit- just saw Pacman's reply. Plus JSaumur should be keeping to the relevant thread here - http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/664041
Please use that one for further replies (if you still don't get it i mean) as we're all now taking Tinker Bell far off the beaten track.. which is only unfair being as Tinker Bell is no problem ripping-wise and all our autoburning-related replies in here will just confuse Tinkler Bell newcomers......
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You hit it on the nose. What appears to be the only problem here was JSaumur not being familiar with the software. Shrink is old, but still works good for transcoding and minor editing. It's hard to beat for free and it's better than a bunch of the retail programs. As you and Greensman noted, Shrink often needs external software to bypass the newer copy protections. Shrink never was the best at that. When DVD Decrypter was the "big deal" the author of Shrink suggested using it when decryption problems were encountered. These days AnyDVD is the easiest to use, but DVDFab Decrypter is free. Both work for me. Normally I use RI4M or AnyDVD + DVDD for ripping. Like Greensman, I've moved on to Rebuilder. An interesting fact, ImgBurn is a supported burner for autoburning with Rebuilder.
I just found the new Rambo from Lionsgate sends RI4M into a "spin". Nothing to do with Tinkerbell though. LOL
I'll sum it up for using Shrink for transcoding and using a supported burner for autoburning with Tinkerbell for any novices that come across this thread:
Use whatever program(s) needed for bypassing copy protection on Tinkerbell. With the target files opened in Shrink, select a supported burner, if autoburning is desired. Nero (below version 8), DVDCopy, and DVD Decrypter or ImgBurn (depending on which Shrink is used). The option to create an ISO and autoburn with DVD Decrypter or ImgBurn leaves behind an ISO image that will later need removing. If the user doesn't want to remove ISO images, don't use the create ISO for a burning option. The only options that autoburn and use temp files that auto erase are Nero and DVDCopy. It's pretty straight forward. The rest is in selecting the right options for good output.
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Originally posted by PacMan777:
Creaky
You hit it on the nose. What appears to be the only problem here was JSaumur not being familiar with the software. Shrink is old, but still works good for transcoding and minor editing. It's hard to beat for free and it's better than a bunch of the retail programs. As you and Greensman noted, Shrink often needs external software to bypass the newer copy protections. Shrink never was the best at that. When DVD Decrypter was the "big deal" the author of Shrink suggested using it when decryption problems were encountered. These days AnyDVD is the easiest to use, but DVDFab Decrypter is free. Both work for me. Normally I use RI4M or AnyDVD + DVDD for ripping. Like Greensman, I've moved on to Rebuilder. An interesting fact, ImgBurn is a supported burner for autoburning with Rebuilder.
I just found the new Rambo from Lionsgate sends RI4M into a "spin". Nothing to do with Tinkerbell though. LOL
I'll sum it up for using Shrink for transcoding and using a supported burner for autoburning with Tinkerbell for any novices that come across this thread:
Use whatever program(s) needed for bypassing copy protection on Tinkerbell. With the target files opened in Shrink, select a supported burner, if autoburning is desired. Nero (below version 8), DVDCopy, and DVD Decrypter or ImgBurn (depending on which Shrink is used). The option to create an ISO and autoburn with DVD Decrypter or ImgBurn leaves behind an ISO image that will later need removing. If the user doesn't want to remove ISO images, don't use the create ISO for a burning option. The only options that autoburn and use temp files that auto erase are Nero and DVDCopy. It's pretty straight forward. The rest is in selecting the right options for good output.
Ok, I get it, we were basicly saying the same thing but in different language lol I totaly appologize for the annoyance and stuburness, I'm trying to keep it simple with programs that I know and knew that worked, but it seems like as you all mentioned DVDSHRINK is historical program and there's better stuff out there now. It's to bad it was working nice and fast.
I think I'll give a shoot at that new one you guys are talking about, Rebuilder sounds interesting and I'll go get it and evaluate it's potential. I just wish there was a program out there that would do it all, meaning that we just load that program and it would decrypte and create the proper files and burn them directly to the target DVD just like SHRINK was doing but even better ;-)
Thank you all for your precious help and recommandation, I think us older people needs that little push that you can provide to get us unstick from older software that doesn't quite do it anymore without a lot of patching ;-)
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Originally posted by JSaumur:
I just wish there was a program out there that would do it all, meaning that we just load that program and it would decrypte and create the proper files and burn them directly to the target DVD just like SHRINK was doing but even better ;-)
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Originally posted by JSaumur:
Ok, I get it, we were basicly saying the same thing but in different language lol I totaly appologize for the annoyance and stuburness
Indeed, we were slightly at different ends of the same page, we all met in the middle in the end :p
I've had to take a very difficult exam, twice in 2 days so my stress level has been a tad high, hence my short replies before.
Originally posted by JSaumur:
I'm trying to keep it simple with programs that I know and knew that worked, but it seems like as you all mentioned DVDSHRINK is historical program and there's better stuff out there now. It's to bad it was working nice and fast.
Don't get me wrong, Shrink is a brilliant program, it's still very good at what it can do ie shrink movie data. I'm certainly no picture quality obsessive, in fact i used to use Shrink primarily for the longest time. It's just that i prefer Rebuilder as it can produce phenomenal results. It needs a fairly powerful machine though, if you don't want your machine maxxed out for many hours. Less than a year ago i moved up from slow reliable (and some of them quite ancient) computers and my newest machine is a Quad Core Q6600.
A movie takes less than an hour in Rebuilder on my Quad
http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/2/525909
I can't remember how long Rebuilder used to take on my previously fastest computer (an AMD Athlon 2800XP) but i think it was between 3 and 6 hours.
Originally posted by JSaumur:
I think I'll give a shoot at that new one you guys are talking about, Rebuilder sounds interesting and I'll go get it and evaluate it's potential.
You wouldn't regret it, in in simplest form it's actually very simple to use. As anyone around here will tell you, i mostly only like simple programs myself :)
Here's an example link re Rebuilder vs Shrink - http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_jump.cfm/708029/4310139 - i seem overly harsh on Shrink in that one, but in context it's discussing 55%ish video compression ie extreme video compression.
Originally posted by JSaumur:
I think us older people needs that little push that you can provide to get us unstick from older software that doesn't quite do it anymore without a lot of patching ;-)
I'm also 'older people' too :)
..and as i say i get quite set on certain software/methods just the same as anyone else. Every now and again i venture out and try something new or slightly different but i'm a great believer in keeping hold of stuff that works very well, whether it be computer hardware, programs or whatever.
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12. November 2008 @ 10:30 |
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Originally posted by JSaumur:
I think us older people needs that little push that you can provide to get us unstick from older software that doesn't quite do it anymore without a lot of patching ;-)
I may be a little younger than you and Creaky (LOL), but I'm with Creaky on not throwing out the software that works. Bypassing copy protection ("cleaning") is what makes us keep changing the way(s) we process the new video releases. The studios have kept adding newer protections and without updates older programs without support can't process them. For transcoding and burning, the process remains pretty much the same. Shrink still does a good job of transcoding and setting up the burn, the input files just need "cleaning" first. Many of the new transcoding programs don't "clean" the input. If you look at it from that perspective, that Shrink does anything along that line puts it ahead (not behind). DVDFab and Slysoft (AnyDVD) are 2 of the main players in bypassing protections and they're still supported.
Copy protection (including encryption) was always Shrink's weak link. Even in the earlier days of the program the author suggested the use of DVD Decrypter when an encryption problem came up that Shrink couldn't process. With both Shrink and DVD Decrypter losing support we had to go elsewhere to be able to bypass the newer copy protections ("clean") that keep coming from the studios. It's been a long time since Shrink was a sure thing by itself for doing new video releases. As more new copy protections came along, the odds stacked up against it.
RipIt4Me (RI4M) is a group of freeware programs (DVD Shrink, DVD Decrypter, RipIt4Me, and the burner) that work on most of the newer releases. There are a few new releases like Rambo, from Lionsgate, and some of the Disney releases that cause trouble for RI4M. They're so rare I usually use RI4M and use DVDFab Decrypter when I encounter the ones RI4M can't process. The RI4M setup is seamless, but you do need to add a little input. If you use the 1 step in RI4M your files open in Shrink. You have to enter backup. If you have a supported burner for Shrink and a DVD loaded in the burner drive, then you're through until after your DVD is completed. Other than the pay programs like DVDFab Platinum and AnyDVD + CloneDVD 2, you can't find a better setup than RI4M, except Rebuilder.
Rebuilder requires you rip a "cleaned" set of files to your hard drive. Then you open your "cleaned" source in Rebuilder. Once installed and the settings adjusted, there is little you need to do with Rebuilder except access your source files and start the program. You have the option to do 1 video and autoburn with ImgBurn. Or you can do 1 DVD, or more (in batch mode), and burn with your burner of choice. Not exactly one click, but it is a true encoder setup. With Rebuilder you're using files ripped to the HD and creating ISO files that will have to be removed. So, it's no easier than using Shrink with ImgBurn as the supported burner. Rebuilder is hard to beat for quality, but it takes more time to process the files for the improved quality. Your PC's processing power has a lot to do with the processing speed, also the encoder settings can make a difference.
Shrink is free and still does an excellent job. With RI4M it's still pretty powerful. With AnyDVD it's like the program of old. You can still get your burned DVDs that play on the standalone without accessing the burner software to complete the task. Depending on the burner software you may need to do some cleanup after you complete the burn. To do it easier, you'll need some retail programs. No harder than it is to access a file and delete it, I'd go for free, if cleanup is the only issue.
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zosoiv, you have helped me in the past and I lost all my notes. I downloaded dvd shrink and imagburn. There was a post where there was clear steps on how to do this. I hope you remember the site and can help me -
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Originally posted by lwalker:
zosoiv, you have helped me in the past and I lost all my notes. I downloaded dvd shrink and imagburn. There was a post where there was clear steps on how to do this. I hope you remember the site and can help me -
thanks
lwalker
If you can't find the tutorial at AD then try this site. link
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Originally posted by lwalker:
zosoiv, you have helped me in the past and I lost all my notes. I downloaded dvd shrink and imagburn. There was a post where there was clear steps on how to do this. I hope you remember the site and can help me -
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lwalker
http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/664041
It would have to be pretty short to beat how 7thsinger explained setting up Shrink with ImgBurn support. His post has a link for the Shrink-Imgburn exe and where to install it after opening the zip download.
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