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1. June 2010 @ 13:28 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by sammorris:
Yeah I would imagine so, keep an eye on the temps of course.
Okay sounds good. Now lets just hope I can convince my parents that I will not do good in college without an i7 980. LOL.

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1. June 2010 @ 13:31 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
A bit silly to convince them to get a $1000 CPU really, but having spent $1000 on a graphics card, I can hardly talk :P



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1. June 2010 @ 13:44 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by sammorris:
A bit silly to convince them to get a $1000 CPU really, but having spent $1000 on a graphics card, I can hardly talk :P
True.....but I tried very hard to talk myself out of it....no go. Lol.

Since no one responded to my other thread, how much do you think I can sell a 2 year old Q6700 for? It is in pristine condition (Box looks new, and the sticker/stock heatsink have never been used).

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I'll give you a nickel for it :p It's my final offer...



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Dang it....I was really hoping for a dime. :(

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LOL! Well, according to ebay, you could still get a decent chunk of change. I see them retailing for over 200$ ;) But I know Jack about intel...



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1. June 2010 @ 14:09 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by omegaman7:
LOL! Well, according to ebay, you could still get a decent chunk of change. I see them retailing for over 200$ ;) But I know Jack about intel...
Oh wow....I am surprised someone would still pay that much for such an outdated CPU...
I bought it for $144 so getting $200 is awesome. Just gonna downgrade my mom's computer, hehehehe. That money will help me with my i7 980 build :D

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1. June 2010 @ 14:12 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I'm not suggesting you'll get 200 for a used CPU. You'd probably get 100 from the right bidder though. Perhaps the model I was noticing for 200 was some unique model?



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1. June 2010 @ 14:22 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Well even a 100 bucks is a lot. I was thinking that it would sell for like 50 bucks as you can get a used i7 920 for 200 bucks these days and they are much faster than the q6700.

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2. June 2010 @ 00:05 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by im1992:
Well even a 100 bucks is a lot. I was thinking that it would sell for like 50 bucks as you can get a used i7 920 for 200 bucks these days and they are much faster than the q6700.
I'll give you 50US for it, I've been looking for a good, cheap s775 quad. Let me know if you're interested.


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Originally posted by Red_Maw:
Originally posted by im1992:
Well even a 100 bucks is a lot. I was thinking that it would sell for like 50 bucks as you can get a used i7 920 for 200 bucks these days and they are much faster than the q6700.
I'll give you 50US for it, I've been looking for a good, cheap s775 quad. Let me know if you're interested.
LMFAO, for a Q6700? I think not.
On the other hand if you want my Celeron 336 which is also s775, we have us a deal.

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Well it was worth a try ;P


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Hello, new user here. I recently put together my new system and I'm running into some temp problems with my i7. I'm using the Noctua NH-D14 cooler with mx-3 paste and here are my results:

*Ambient ~25-28C*
i7 Stock clocks + default BIOS settings:
Idle: 40-45C
Load(Prime95): 62-70C

OC @ 4.01Ghz(EIST, C1E off):
Idle: 44-48C
Load: 74-81C

Doesn't these temps seem high for this cooler? I'm looking at reviews and other users with the Noctua, and they're getting high 20s to mid 30s idle. It's also strange that the idle both OCed and stock are roughly the same. I tried reseating the heatsink multiple times and rotated it in the other position. Also tried various different pastes(AS5,MX-3, NH-1) and application techniques (line, dot) and temps remained relatively the same. Opening the case up made little to no difference in temps as well. Double checked all fans, and they're running up to speed and in the right direction.

I also tried the stock intel fan, and at stock settings and 2 cores are idling at 58C!(other two are around 50c) and if I ran prime95 it shoots to Tjmax so I quickly shut off the PC. Could this mean a bad cpu or mobo temp sensors? I didn't think stock Intel cooler could be this bad.. Any help is much appreciated. Thanks.
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I googled "temperatures Core i7 930", and was very surprised to find that these high temps seem to be the norm for the 920, 930 and 940 when overclocked. When people inquire about this on many other forums and tech places, everybody seems to feel that these temps are fine??? My old Pentium D-940 didn't get that hot at 3.94GHz. Even my older 3.0GHz Prescot didn't get that hot at 3.83gHz. Just an observation on my part, but load temps of 74-81C seem awful warm to me. Am I not understanding or missing something here?

I've posted this same question on the Building thread as well.

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14. June 2010 @ 14:24 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Russ, your 940 started out at 3.2GHz, running at 3.94 was a 23% overclock. The i7 930 starts at 2.8Ghz, so running at 4.01Ghz is a 43% overclock. The i7 930 is a 130W TDP CPU just like the D940, and unlike the 940, the TDP is accurate. With the Pentium Ds, 130W was more accurate for the D8 smithfields, the Preslers were a little more efficient if I remember correctly.



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Originally posted by sammorris:
Russ, your 940 started out at 3.2GHz, running at 3.94 was a 23% overclock. The i7 930 starts at 2.8Ghz, so running at 4.01Ghz is a 43% overclock. The i7 930 is a 130W TDP CPU just like the D940, and unlike the 940, the TDP is accurate. With the Pentium Ds, 130W was more accurate for the D8 smithfields, the Preslers were a little more efficient if I remember correctly.
Sam,
No offense to anyone, but I am sure glad I didn't go with the i7 920 then, 43% OC be Damned! It would have been a nightmare for me to cool one here, in the summertime. I remember Soph getting the D-805, which was less efficient than the D-9***'s, and overclocking the snot out of it, and he never saw temps that high. What get's me the most is the stock speed temps being posted for the Core i7 9***'s, even using that "HUGE" Megalump (what I call it), or full high quality water cooling system. Now I understand why so many people use it. They need it! You could get a bunch of people together and hold a Barbecue! :)

Thanks for the information. It makes me glad I made the choice I made.

Best Regards,
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14. June 2010 @ 15:12 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
i7s do use a monumental amount of power, which is why I like i5 750s, they're only 95W TDP and it shows. At 4.12Ghz I barely ever see load temps in the 60s, and I only have the same 120mm tower cooler most people use. If you can do without HT and 32x PCIe bandwidth, no reason to buy an LGA1366 chip imo.



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Originally posted by sammorris:
i7s do use a monumental amount of power, which is why I like i5 750s, they're only 95W TDP and it shows. At 4.12Ghz I barely ever see load temps in the 60s, and I only have the same 120mm tower cooler most people use. If you can do without HT and 32x PCIe bandwidth, no reason to buy an LGA1366 chip imo.
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Not unless the LGA1366 comes with an optional Rotisserie and grill! LOL!! At 4.20GHz, at 1.5 volts, mine barely hit 53C fully stressed. I'm sure it would hit 55C in the heat of the summer though.

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Which CPU was this? air cooling?



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Originally posted by sammorris:
Which CPU was this? air cooling?
Sam,
According to his sig, it was a 930 with an H50 cooler.

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I would assume he means his 955BE which is, AFAIK, one of the better OCing revisions. 3.9GHz takes 1.55v on my 940BE.

Assume there was a bit of a miss.comm. here.



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Wow jeff. If I wanna push my 940, gonna need water cooling to do it. And unfortunately, I'll have to remove 2 sticks of ram as well...

I wonder whether the coolit could cool a 940 at 1.55v? That could be borderline eh? Probably have to cool the VRM as well...



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Russ, nah I meant this:
Originally posted by you:
At 4.20GHz, at 1.5 volts, mine barely hit 53C fully stressed.

Which CPU/cooler was that?

I can't believe an i7 would get as hot as 60+ with an H50, something's not right there.



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Sam,
My bad I left out a 0! LOL!! 4.020GHz@1.5v. It will boot up at 4.1GHz, but I didn't try to go higher on the voltage to try and get it stable.

If something isn't right, an awful lot of people suffer from very high temps with the i7 then. I googled it and came up with tons of people experiencing much higher temps than 60C who were questioning the temps 80C was not uncommon. Some got even higher than that using supposedly high end coolers. The Mugen 2 and the Megalump seem to have had some issues with the heatsink not being flat. There also seems to have been problems with some of the Core i7 chips themselves, with the heatshield's not being flat, not to mention bowing of some motherboards. Perhaps the coolers weren't installed correctly, washers left out and that sort of thing. All I know about it is from my googling the problem.

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From my experience, getting to 4Ghz on the 130W i7s, especially the earlier models that took a bit more Vcore, fully stressed, 70-75C load is about typical, using coolers like the NH-U12P and TRUE C. Even with the i7 940, that's still a 35%+ overclock, so the increase in temps is unsurprising. With more slight overclocks like 3.6-3.7, it's not normal to see the temps much exceed 60C.

When comparing to Phenom II chips, however, with the same cross-platform coolers, thermal paste and fans, higher TDPs seem to result in lower temps in software though, which leads me to think that the Tjunction settings for one (or both) of the brands is off. Whether AMDs report too low or Intels report too high I'm not sure, but 120W CPUs like the 955BE vs 130W CPUs like the i7 900 series with the same voltage increases, the AMDs seem to report far lower temps, and I see no reason for that to be the case. Granted, the surface of the die may be different, but any decent heatsink with thermal paste should make that a non-issue. I would be interested to see measurements of the temperature of the actual heatsink itself.



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Originally posted by sammorris:
From my experience, getting to 4Ghz on the 130W i7s, especially the earlier models that took a bit more Vcore, fully stressed, 70-75C load is about typical, using coolers like the NH-U12P and TRUE C. Even with the i7 940, that's still a 35%+ overclock, so the increase in temps is unsurprising. With more slight overclocks like 3.6-3.7, it's not normal to see the temps much exceed 60C.

When comparing to Phenom II chips, however, with the same cross-platform coolers, thermal paste and fans, higher TDPs seem to result in lower temps in software though, which leads me to think that the Tjunction settings for one (or both) of the brands is off. Whether AMDs report too low or Intels report too high I'm not sure, but 120W CPUs like the 955BE vs 130W CPUs like the i7 900 series with the same voltage increases, the AMDs seem to report far lower temps, and I see no reason for that to be the case. Granted, the surface of the die may be different, but any decent heatsink with thermal paste should make that a non-issue. I would be interested to see measurements of the temperature of the actual heatsink itself.
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The 955BE/C3 I have is 125w. I did see a picture of a Megalump that had squeezed all the stock thermal paste that comes applied to opposing outsides. To my way of thinking, that would be caused by something being bowed out, more likely the Heatsink, because it is harder. I would think if it was the heatshield on the CPU, it would break the CPU. You could see in the picture, where it was wedged to both sides, with the middle almost completely clean. I read a lot of complaints about their heatsinks not being flat or level. I personally have no faith in that particular design, because over time it would be much more prone to leakage, by cracking of the pipes from vibration. Remember, the two sides hang on their own sides pipes, with no support between the sides. I would imagine it would be fairly easy to bow the middle by accident, since it has a gap in the middle.

I tried to find that pic again, but mainly thanks to FireFox's totally inadequate history files, I couldn't locate it. One would think they would have used the one from netscape as it had all the information, such as time and file types. There's also no tree view. And you can't open something without it being moved to now! It's a total cluster job! I've turned it off again, because it's all but useless!

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