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Originally posted by AISmoked:
Originally posted by Estuansis:
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eff: I see a lot of people moan actually that the 550VX is nowhere near as quiet as the 450VX. The 550 is also a CWT not a Seasonic, the red shroud on the inductors being a big giveaway :P
Yes I am aware of this but under idle conditions both are inaudible over the rest of the system. Considering that particular PC is idle nearly 24/7, this means very little noise anyway. I believe in Corsair as well so I can't imagine the CWT units have unreasonable quality.
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AISmoked: P31 boards are exceptionally weak for voltage regulation and hardware in general. I would advise you not to overclock a Pentium D very far on one or you risk burning out the board.
I agree. A P31 may be fine for OCing the low wattage budget C2Ds, but they also use half the wattage of the Pentium D. The Pentium D is also famous as one of the hottest running CPUs ever so be mindful of your temps.
Hey yeah i know they run hotter than others but as far as i know it can handle a bit more...was just wondering if anybody knew a safe worthy OC, Thanks
AIS,
I agree with Sam here, the P31 boards are very weak in voltage regulation. I don't think you could gain enough performance to really matter without risking the MB. If you come across a decent P35 board in your travels, and it's cheap, I would think about it. I would wait on a better MB to try overclocking it!
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14. April 2010 @ 01:57 |
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Yeah it's a good motherboard but just isn't made for OCing a high wattage chip. Small voltage increases might be fine but for OCing a Pentium D you really need a more robust board.
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To clarify, P31 boards aren't bad overclockers by themselves. However, they can only really overclock low wattage CPUs, 65W and 50W chips like Core 2 Duos, because that's all their voltage regulation can handle. Heavy CPUs like 95W Core 2 Quads or worse, 120-130W Pentium Ds are a bit too much and are likely to cause problems.
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Originally posted by AISmoked:
Hey yeah i know they run hotter than others but as far as i know it can handle a bit more...was just wondering if anybody knew a safe worthy OC, Thanks
These arn't as bad as most made them out to be. Trust, I the 840 was worst and I got it up there too. You just need to keep it cool & they can do this on a quality 550~600W PSU.
I would say a goal of 4GHz at DDR1000 in !1:2 is not to far fetched if you can keer her cool. Here I will sugest a good budget cooler in very close performance to the classic "cooling on air" ThermalRight Ultra 120. Look into the Thermolab Baram Universal CPU Cooler at just under $40.00 US. link This is a large tower cooler capable of using 2 fas in a push/pull. But at 4GHz you will be just fine w/ 1 fan. The mobo here is barely only needing to do 250FSB and barely any overcolts to chipset and RAM. RAM dividers is where the G31 will likely be picky so try to keep in a 1:1 or 1:2. The B1 is the CPU stepping, labeled on the actual CPU & box as sSpec Code SL94Q. Thes refer to various features either added, locked out, or just revised for performances. In this case, the C1 was a revised version to offer C1E and ran cooler at les volteages so meant better for overclocking. (B1) was ok but just needed a bit more to keep up at a same 4GHz per say. As for the motherboard, If it didnt offer any power mosfet (the power chips around the CPU area) then add some. I like the Enzotech BMR-C1 Forged Copper BGA Heatsinks - 8 link Pack you can cut to fit as needed w/ hack saw or most fit as is.
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Nick, What PLL did you list in your previous post, QPI or CPU? Based off the voltage I think it's the CPU but I wanted to be sure before messing with it.
Below is what I'm at now and what I was trying for. No reasonable voltage increases seem to be working so let me know what you think before I raise them closer to the limit.
On most the boards I see we are only getting CPU PLL options. I have only known DFI to offer mores advanced setting for NB chipset PLL as well as dual PLL. So for my ASUS X58 it is CPU PLL and I use up to 1.88v at 4.305GHz but can be stable at 1.86v at 4.2GHz. Dont be too worried bout the vcore on this 930. These models already outsine the old 920 in terms of voltages. In fact to speak for, my i7 930 can run its 4.305GHz at 1.36v, the same vcore my i7 920 needed to hit stable 4.2GHz, or my 930 could do at 4.2GHz what my 90 needed at 4.0GHz so you can get an idea of the scaling. Keep in mind I have a better of the i7 920 batches cause most needed what my 930 4.3 used just hit 3.8, so it is luck of the draw. 2nd, you will need more QPI volts for near DDR1600., at least 1.30 min and up to 1.35 if aiming for BCLK of 200, which in turn you need to look at NB/SB if you hae a nice PCI-E card and drop in sound as well as utilising a few USB divices. Up the PCI-E frequency if uSB stuff fails to detect all the time or drops out sometimes. Mine likes PCI-E Freq to 110MHz. It wont hurt to just start at 1.33 vcore and back down as it will allow. just mind you temps. Look at the cooler I mentioned above unless you have a better one already. These 930's are a "shoe in" for daily 4GHz, we just need to time the mobo in.
Hope this helps
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14. April 2010 @ 16:22 |
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Hey ok thanks guys i will probaby wait till i get more upgrades cecause i dont understand all the 1.1,1.2 ratios thanks alot guys
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14. April 2010 @ 17:27 |
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Originally posted by AISmoked:
Hey ok thanks guys i will probaby wait till i get more upgrades cecause i dont understand all the 1.1,1.2 ratios thanks alot guys
David
The ratios refer to how many times RAM clock speeds runs to each CPU FSB clock speed. So if to get stock of DDR800 (400mHz x2 base RAM clock) at stock CPU FSB of 200FBS (quad pumped to system FSB of 800 in HTT mode) means Your CPU FSB is at 200MHz (800MHz system HTT) and RAM is active at DDR800. So in turn, we use ratios to refer to thish. Some older BIOS used RAM multipliers such as "X" times the CPU FSB. It equalds the same but means you gotta do the math on the side as you adjust because thos old BIOS did not tell you the reported or soon to be active DDR speed. 1:1 just means the RAM and CPU are in full sink CPU FSB: 200MHz (800 HTT), DRAM: 200MHz (DDR400). For testing 1:1 is most stable. So you know for sure the RAM OC is not a big part of the overall system OC yet till you stable out the CPU OC.
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14. April 2010 @ 21:36 |
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Well I couldn't get stable at 200x20, and now it's not stable at 196x20 anymore either. I got fantastic results out of and seemed to be stable at:
BCLK Frequency [200]
CPU Multiplier [20]
DRAM Frequency [1600]
UCLK Frequency [3200]
QPI Frequency [7200]
DRAM Timing Configuration
1st Timings [9-9-9-24]
2nd & 3rd Timings AUTO
Voltages
Vcore [1.3]
CPU PLL [1.86]
QPI [1.31]
IOH core [1.14]
ICH core [1.14]
DRAM Bus [1.64]
DRAM Ref [AUTO]
but after trying to OC a bit more it's not even seemingly stable at:
BCLK Frequency [200]
CPU Multiplier [20]
DRAM Frequency [1600]
UCLK Frequency [3200]
QPI Frequency [7200]
DRAM Timing Configuration
1st Timings [9-9-9-24]
2nd & 3rd Timings AUTO
Voltages
Vcore [1.312]
CPU PLL [1.88]
QPI [1.33]
IOH core [1.18]
ICH core [1.18]
DRAM Bus [1.64]
DRAM Ref [AUTO]
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Originally posted by Red_Maw:
Well I couldn't get stable at 200x20, and now it's not stable at 196x20 anymore either. I got fantastic results out of and seemed to be stable at:
BCLK Frequency [200]
CPU Multiplier [20]
DRAM Frequency [1600]
UCLK Frequency [3200]
QPI Frequency [7200]
DRAM Timing Configuration
1st Timings [9-9-9-24]
2nd & 3rd Timings AUTO
Voltages
Vcore [1.3]
CPU PLL [1.86]
QPI [1.31]
IOH core [1.4]
ICH core [1.4]
DRAM Bus [1.64]
DRAM Ref [AUTO]
but after trying to OC a bit more it's not even seemingly stable at:
BCLK Frequency [200]
CPU Multiplier [20]
DRAM Frequency [1600]
UCLK Frequency [3200]
QPI Frequency [7200]
DRAM Timing Configuration
1st Timings [9-9-9-24]
2nd & 3rd Timings AUTO
Voltages
Vcore [1.312]
CPU PLL [1.88]
QPI [1.33]
IOH core [1.8]
ICH core [1.8]
DRAM Bus [1.64]
DRAM Ref [AUTO]
Are those voltages you state as is set in BIOS or as reported by Everest or a like accurate app? ASUS is known for overvolting a tad on certain items such as QPI, vcore, DRAM for example. If this is the case, you want to aim for reported working voltages especially for the vcore and QPI. Also, for the IOH core/ICH core @[1.8], is this the settings for core voltages or the PCI-E 1.5v lanes? the PCI-E 1.5v lanes dont need much at 200 BCLK but the NB/SB cores will need a tad but not more then 1.4 in most cases. I only needed 1.2v on mine but I realize they are different. Also I noticed you had Loadline Cal off. Enable this or you will need to set in BIOS a tad more vcore to make up for the vdroop under loading. QPI on mine is a bit off so I have to set in BIOS at 1.35000v to get 1.310v for DDR1600. my vcore only needs to be set to 1.33xxx to use 1.323 idle or 1.334 loaded.
Just in case I didnt mention earlier, those timings were for my RAM, everybodys will be different there and in fact you should always leave set loose and either at 1:1 or 1:2 for now just to make sure you CPU and mobo like the CPU sidie of the OC, and for sure the same must be said of the GPU, no OC here yet till done testing or you only asking for mishaps and wont know from which part yet. Also as discribed in my earlier post, make sure to Disable any speed spectrum setting and for now NO EIST, Intel SpeedStep. If to really make surte Disable all under CPU config except what you need, usually I only leave HTT, all cores, ect. this can be turned on later.
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ASUS RAMPAGE II EXTREME(X58) w/ i7 930 DO @ 4.305GHz (205x21 @ 1.323v) 2:8 DDR1680 @ 6-6-6-18
ASUS RAMPAGE EXTREME (X48) w/ Q6600 @ 3.81GHz, 422x9 @ DDR1680 6-7-6-20 @ 1.71v
ASUS CROSSHAIR w/ x2 6400+
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My mistake, meant to put 1.14v and 1.18v respectively; was worried I actually used 1.8v for a minute lol. For the record I've got nothing else OC'd and I put my ram timings at 9-9-9-24 to be safe (from the looks of it you have the discontinued mushkin set, or are just really lucky). By using this configuration (below) it seems to be stable again, hopefully there's some room to drop some voltages as it's running a bit toasty right now.
BCLK Frequency [196]
CPU Multiplier [20]
DRAM Frequency [1568]
DRAM Timing Configuration
1st Timings [6-8-6-24]
2nd & 3rd Timings AUTO
Voltages
Vcore [1.3]
CPU PLL [1.86]
QPI [1.31]
IOH core [1.14]
ICH core [1.14]
DRAM Bus [1.64]
I'd like to push it a bit more but right now it can't handle any more heat and will be lowered soon anyway to keep temps in check as summer approaches. I think my MB temp will be vastly improved with a smaller cpu cooler so I'm currently planning a WC loop for the cpu. If it gets down (late June/early July) I should have ample room to OC depending on how much noise I can tolerate.
Thanks for the help Nick, it seems I will have to a bit longer before getting past the 4Ghz mark though.
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Originally posted by Red_Maw:
My mistake, meant to put 1.14v and 1.18v respectively; was worried I actually used 1.8v for a minute lol. For the record I've got nothing else OC'd and I put my ram timings at 9-9-9-24 to be safe (from the looks of it you have the discontinued mushkin set, or are just really lucky). By using this configuration (below) it seems to be stable again, hopefully there's some room to drop some voltages as it's running a bit toasty right now.
I'd like to push it a bit more but right now it can't handle any more heat and will be lowered soon anyway to keep temps in check as summer approaches. I think my MB temp will be vastly improved with a smaller cpu cooler so I'm currently planning a WC loop for the cpu. If it gets down (late June/early July) I should have ample room to OC depending on how much noise I can tolerate.
Thanks for the help Nick, it seems I will have to a bit longer before getting past the 4Ghz mark though.
I would just grab a $40 CPU cooler and a $12. 12v blower style fan like this I used for benchtesting.
I got this at Weird Stuff for $4.00 here in Sunnyvale Ca. but you can grab one on Ebay. See this link: link
ja, I use the mushkins now, I love them. The ones in the pic are the old style 6-76-18 but I recently got the newer version with heatpipe integrated heatink on my other Rampage II Extreme. The one in pic it the Micro ATX X58 Gene model and it does get a tad warm too. These fans can do over 5k RPM but you will only need bout 2500 to be good w/ room to cool for benchmarking and so on.
Sony PSP/PS3,
ASUS RAMPAGE II EXTREME(X58) w/ i7 930 DO @ 4.305GHz (205x21 @ 1.323v) 2:8 DDR1680 @ 6-6-6-18
ASUS RAMPAGE EXTREME (X48) w/ Q6600 @ 3.81GHz, 422x9 @ DDR1680 6-7-6-20 @ 1.71v
ASUS CROSSHAIR w/ x2 6400+
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Originally posted by NuckNFuts:
Originally posted by Red_Maw:
My mistake, meant to put 1.14v and 1.18v respectively; was worried I actually used 1.8v for a minute lol. For the record I've got nothing else OC'd and I put my ram timings at 9-9-9-24 to be safe (from the looks of it you have the discontinued mushkin set, or are just really lucky). By using this configuration (below) it seems to be stable again, hopefully there's some room to drop some voltages as it's running a bit toasty right now.
I'd like to push it a bit more but right now it can't handle any more heat and will be lowered soon anyway to keep temps in check as summer approaches. I think my MB temp will be vastly improved with a smaller cpu cooler so I'm currently planning a WC loop for the cpu. If it gets down (late June/early July) I should have ample room to OC depending on how much noise I can tolerate.
Thanks for the help Nick, it seems I will have to a bit longer before getting past the 4Ghz mark though.
I would just grab a $40 CPU cooler and a $12. 12v blower style fan like this I used for benchtesting.
I got this at Weird Stuff for $4.00 here in Sunnyvale Ca. but you can grab one on Ebay. See this link: link
ja, I use the mushkins now, I love them. The ones in the pic are the old style 6-76-18 but I recently got the newer version with heatpipe integrated heatink on my other Rampage II Extreme. The one in pic it the Micro ATX X58 Gene model and it does get a tad warm too. These fans can do over 5k RPM but you will only need bout 2500 to be good w/ room to cool for benchmarking and so on.
Hey Nuck,
I like the Scoot in the "Garage"! LOL!! I was expecting a 57 Caddy!
Best Regards, and keep on clockin,
Russ
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Originally posted by NuckNFuts:
Originally posted by Red_Maw:
My mistake, meant to put 1.14v and 1.18v respectively; was worried I actually used 1.8v for a minute lol. For the record I've got nothing else OC'd and I put my ram timings at 9-9-9-24 to be safe (from the looks of it you have the discontinued mushkin set, or are just really lucky). By using this configuration (below) it seems to be stable again, hopefully there's some room to drop some voltages as it's running a bit toasty right now.
I'd like to push it a bit more but right now it can't handle any more heat and will be lowered soon anyway to keep temps in check as summer approaches. I think my MB temp will be vastly improved with a smaller cpu cooler so I'm currently planning a WC loop for the cpu. If it gets down (late June/early July) I should have ample room to OC depending on how much noise I can tolerate.
Thanks for the help Nick, it seems I will have to a bit longer before getting past the 4Ghz mark though.
I would just grab a $40 CPU cooler and a $12. 12v blower style fan like this I used for benchtesting.
I got this at Weird Stuff for $4.00 here in Sunnyvale Ca. but you can grab one on Ebay. See this link: link
ja, I use the mushkins now, I love them. The ones in the pic are the old style 6-76-18 but I recently got the newer version with heatpipe integrated heatink on my other Rampage II Extreme. The one in pic it the Micro ATX X58 Gene model and it does get a tad warm too. These fans can do over 5k RPM but you will only need bout 2500 to be good w/ room to cool for benchmarking and so on.
Actually I have a Noctua NH-D14 so as far as I know there isn't a cooler out there that will give me any real improvement.
btw 2.5k rpm fans will probably have me hearing them and not my music/movie etc. lol
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Originally posted by Red_Maw:
Originally posted by NuckNFuts:
Originally posted by Red_Maw:
My mistake, meant to put 1.14v and 1.18v respectively; was worried I actually used 1.8v for a minute lol. For the record I've got nothing else OC'd and I put my ram timings at 9-9-9-24 to be safe (from the looks of it you have the discontinued mushkin set, or are just really lucky). By using this configuration (below) it seems to be stable again, hopefully there's some room to drop some voltages as it's running a bit toasty right now.
I'd like to push it a bit more but right now it can't handle any more heat and will be lowered soon anyway to keep temps in check as summer approaches. I think my MB temp will be vastly improved with a smaller cpu cooler so I'm currently planning a WC loop for the cpu. If it gets down (late June/early July) I should have ample room to OC depending on how much noise I can tolerate.
Thanks for the help Nick, it seems I will have to a bit longer before getting past the 4Ghz mark though.
I would just grab a $40 CPU cooler and a $12. 12v blower style fan like this I used for benchtesting.
I got this at Weird Stuff for $4.00 here in Sunnyvale Ca. but you can grab one on Ebay. See this link: link
ja, I use the mushkins now, I love them. The ones in the pic are the old style 6-76-18 but I recently got the newer version with heatpipe integrated heatink on my other Rampage II Extreme. The one in pic it the Micro ATX X58 Gene model and it does get a tad warm too. These fans can do over 5k RPM but you will only need bout 2500 to be good w/ room to cool for benchmarking and so on.
Actually I have a Noctua NH-D14 so as far as I know there isn't a cooler out there that will give me any real improvement.
btw 2.5k rpm fans will probably have me hearing them and not my music/movie etc. lol
Nuck,
Perhaps one of these!
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835185057
Or one of these!
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835185058
Scythe is being very conservative with their noise specs, as the fans I've bought aren't as loud as advertised. These are extremely quiet fans that move a lot of air. They even have a 110.31CFM @1900 RPM fan, that's 37dBA. omegaman7 has one he uses with either the MB or a fan controller. Highly Recommended! They are out of stock right now, but they are always running out of them. Usually in a few days Newegg will have them again.
I use my Computer as two different model Wurlitzer Theater Organs, a two Manual 216 and a three Manual 260, so I need to hear every note. Fan noise will never be an issue, and they stand up very well in the harsh semi-arid part of the country I live in. Dust has always been a problem with all but Ball Bearing Fans, but these don't seem affected but the dust at all. The same goes for the 53 CFM Silverstone FN121 1200 RPM fan I have in the rear now.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811999346
It also comes with Blue LEDs as the FN121-BL. Another very quiet fan that moves a lot of air! Give any or all of them a try! You've already got one of the best 140mm fans there is in the NH-D14. It doesn't turn over 1200 RPM.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835608017
At least I think this is what comes with the cooler!
Best Regards,
Russ
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I can vouch for the 1200rpm Scythe's, put three of them in a different system and you can barely hear them sitting right next to you.
My Noctua 140mm fan runs just over 1300rpm according to everest (and bios iirc) but it's really not a big deal, still very quiet. To be honest it sounds just about as loud as the freezer 7 pro to me.
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LOL! Yah, I have a 1900 Scythe. I heard it once. While it was out of the case. Sucker moves some serious air! I haven't put it in the CPU tuniq tower yet. I have a feeling it will do AT LEAST as good as the stock Tuniq fan. It's one of several things I plan on accomplishing this weekend :D I believe the Fan will be my first task, then the new Power supply, and cable management. Something very curious is going on with one of my Disc burners. I have 6, and only ONE of them behaves strangely. In that it wants ALL attention devoted to burning the lead in. If I attempt to do anything for 30-40 seconds during that time, it appears as though its locked up. I wonder about a bad cable, or simply a re installation is needed. Another thing I plan on doing ;)
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Using a Slipstream for a CPU cooler is a bit of a dodgy idea, as the Slipstreams are strictly high airflow only, they produce very little pressure, and it can actually damage them if they are routinely used in a high pressure environment, such as a CPU cooler.
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You think so eh? I've gotten used to the slightly noisy tuniq at 1700Rpms. I'm very curious about comparing the two fans. But if you're correct, perhaps I should rethink the situation :p
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You should really be using a 7-blade fan, and one with high durability bearings for that job. The best fan you could probably use for the job is a Scythe SFF21G.
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I'm not suggesting you're wrong, because I respect your opinions greatly. But newegg sure does sell a lot of CPU sleeve bearing coolers. But then, perhaps they're not completely enclosed like mine would be in the tuniq.
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Sleeve bearing isn't the issue, it's blade count, and pressure requirement. The tighter the fin spacing, the more pressure is required, and the more fan blades, the lower the pressure, but higher the volume of air the fan produces.
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In regards to the suggested NB chipset cooling option I listed earlier, I didn't mean to us as is w/o any controller. The eBay link I gave was a "like" model. The correct model I used so to speak for it's better performance is a pull i got out of a Server rack locally and is here on eBay as well; Barracuda DC Brushless "Squirrel Cage" fan. It is more expensive but I'm sure the othe will do fine at the lower RPM'ss I suggested (1500~2500)
Now, I'm curious about the rated ait flow, I have 1 that says 25cfm and the listed one in link says only 6cfm. But in real world use it feels to much more stronger in fact if not mounted carefully it tends to force itself off if on high (not that you will need 5700rpm lol. I realise some ask for cooler, but other complain about noise. We have to find a balance, and that's why we use fan controllers, something like the Zalman FanMate you see in my pic at top of case. This is my watercooling banch testing case, a Danger Dan Water Box Pluss so no major mounting is need to hold fan in place. So if fo benchmarking, I'm not worried if I can hear it over my GPU fan or dual CPU fans going 2000RPM if cooling is my main concern for that job. Now under idle testing and use, it is as quiet @ 2250RPM, or can be less then my already installed dual Scythe S-Flex models in pic right next to it are @ 1500RPM. So the options are there.
I'm guessing the performance of cooling comes from it's output size and design, the way the 25cfm (if actual) is concentrated and forced into a spacific small area and directed right through the chipset fins so only very little RPM is needed to bring a NB of 62c down to 44c. That is way more efficiant then any open fan (case fan types) layed on top and much quieter then they wil need to come close to match the cooling effort. Yes, I tested this several times.
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These are the "Redlines" that repleced the ones in pic; 998692 - 6GB (3x2GB) DDR3 PC3-12800 6-7-6-18 Redline The are awsome pieces, I am hooked on these now. I used to use them bk in the day but moved to Corsair for the LED's but now I'm back to the "Reds". I haven't got around to pushing to above where the old RedLine 988901's left off but I hear they got some room or if anything cooler w/ the new Ascent heatpipe heatsink.
Also, the bike in the case is a diecast Harley Davideon of the 90's. It's red colors complimens the Rampage & Redlines.
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16. April 2010 @ 17:02 |
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(NuckNFuts)Also, the bike in the case is a diecast Harley Davideon of the 90's. It's red colors complimens the Rampage & Redlines.
NuckNFuts,
I thought it looked like an early 90s Custom Convertible model. LOL!!
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Russ
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18. April 2010 @ 15:01 |
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Originally posted by NuckNFuts:
Originally posted by AISmoked:
Hey ok thanks guys i will probaby wait till i get more upgrades cecause i dont understand all the 1.1,1.2 ratios thanks alot guys
David
The ratios refer to how many times RAM clock speeds runs to each CPU FSB clock speed. So if to get stock of DDR800 (400mHz x2 base RAM clock) at stock CPU FSB of 200FBS (quad pumped to system FSB of 800 in HTT mode) means Your CPU FSB is at 200MHz (800MHz system HTT) and RAM is active at DDR800. So in turn, we use ratios to refer to thish. Some older BIOS used RAM multipliers such as "X" times the CPU FSB. It equalds the same but means you gotta do the math on the side as you adjust because thos old BIOS did not tell you the reported or soon to be active DDR speed. 1:1 just means the RAM and CPU are in full sink CPU FSB: 200MHz (800 HTT), DRAM: 200MHz (DDR400). For testing 1:1 is most stable. So you know for sure the RAM OC is not a big part of the overall system OC yet till you stable out the CPU OC.
Thanks mate helped a bit haha
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1. May 2010 @ 15:26 |
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Rather windy outside, so I'm playing with my 965Be ;)
I'm attempting to land a 3.9Ghz overclock. seeing some rather strange behavior. I have the CPU voltage set at 1.375, the northbridge is at 2400Mhz(.06V boost[1.18V]), HT at 2000, Ram is at auto clock 1333.
When I attempt Intelburntest, this is what I get. If I attempt to bump the cpu voltage up, even a little, it becomes EVEN MORE unstable. 1.4, 1.425, 1.45. Very strange. Obviously the Cpu is NOT the weakest link LOL! My guess would be either the Ram is unstable(Ram voltage 1.65v set for max), or the Northbridge is unstable. I'm curious where I should go from here. Or at least what your opinions are ;)
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1. May 2010 @ 15:32 |
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i remember reading some where that real temps tj max is set to 100 and should be change to 105. Is this correct? i have a q9550.
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