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sorrow93
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6. January 2007 @ 17:52 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Rick haven't yet tried the Ben-Q but was told they are good.
sorry I cannot answer more than that.
perhaps someone else might be more helpful.
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I don't know about benq cd-r's but their dvd's are made by daxon and comparable to cmc magnetic junk.

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6. January 2007 @ 21:06 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
are maxells good even if they are made in taiwan?
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6. January 2007 @ 22:57 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I think those Taiwanese Maxell CD-Rs should be good along with Fuji CD-Rs which I use the most :)

Good quality and don't have to break the bank on a pack.




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7. January 2007 @ 13:30 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
@sorrow93

Hi. I'm also in Oz. I recently bought, from Officeworks, some TDK CD-R80PW. I was attracted to them because it had Made in Japan on the box.
This is a MIJ Taiyo Yuden White Inkjet Printable. Comes in a "premium" White jewel case.

TYs of types are also available in bulk from PCX. I've tried the "silver/silver", the "That's branded" and the "master grade" gloss inkjet.

All record and play OK for audio. Can't do any error testing because I only have LG drives (so Nero CD Speed can only do surface scans)
sorrow93
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7. January 2007 @ 17:10 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
@Platy767
fascinating I will look into them, I tend to put up with the very poor section of Dick Smiths Electronics
I feel like asking them to bump up the selection!
specifically I'm in Tassie we have one OfficeWorks but it's all the way out in the city :(
if you happen to see those specific TDKs you mentioned could you send me a link because they sound great?
better than the taiwan made !!
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7. January 2007 @ 21:14 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
@sorrow93
Listed on the OW web site, but available "In Store Only"
TDK 700MB CDR White Inkjet Printable Discs Pk/10
Product No. TDCDR700WH

Suggest you try pcx.com.au for Taiyo Yuden in bulk.
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8. January 2007 @ 16:48 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
@Platy767 or anyone else
thankyou kindly for that info.
I posted a question on another forum related to this - is it okay to write on the inkjet printables with proper cdr/dvdr markers?
is the writable surface weaker than ordinary?
sorry to pick your brain but nobody answered the cdr marking post.
I don't have a suitable inkjet cdr printer
perhaps someone else might jump in on this?
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8. January 2007 @ 16:55 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
sorrow93..No thats alright..just remember after U write on it..U can't wipe it off
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@rick5446
thankyou. I noticed they are harder to write on compared to normal shiny surfaces need a good cdr marker with plenty of ink
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Sharpies work very well on all CD/DVD surfaces

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Sharpie fine or med
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9. January 2007 @ 14:14 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by sorrow93:

I posted a question on another forum related to this - is it okay to write on the inkjet printables with proper cdr/dvdr markers?
is the writable surface weaker than ordinary?
sorry to pick your brain but nobody answered the cdr marking post.
I don't have a suitable inkjet cdr printer
perhaps someone else might jump in on this?
Your question has caused considerable debate in the past. Here's a link, you can use your own judgement.

http://www.digg.com/tech_news/Sharpie_Pe..._CDR-DVD_Media_

There are specialty cd/dvd markers in stores such as Staples/Walmart, but the price is rather high compared to normal markers. The printable discs may offer some extra protection against solvents, but I'm far from an expert. I use the adage "better to be safe than sorry" I use a special cd/dvd marker, but don't print on the hub as it's too hard to see. Washables, I wouldn't consider because I use dishsoap and water to wash off fingerprints, etc.
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9. January 2007 @ 14:29 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
This from ScubaPete who is considered an expert:

http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/3/124000
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@mackdl
thankyou kindly
bratcher
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24. January 2007 @ 10:19 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Good brands of CD's.

Tayio Yuden
Fuji (the MIJ ones which are made by TY. I guess there's no Fuji MIT out there)
Ritek Ridata

I had good luck with Fry's GQ brand a couple years ago. They were made by Lead Data. Don't know who makes them now nor am I interested in getting some.
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25. January 2007 @ 18:52 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
So, here are the numbers from my first CD scans.

All are CD-Rs. All made using the Create Disk function on
Nero CD-DVD Speed 4.7.0.2.

All burnt at MAX (24X) on my Laptop DVD Writer, GMA-4082.
All scanned at 24X on USB external BenQ DW1650.

The table following provides the results.

This is not a statisical sample - just 1 disk of each type,
burned on a laptop internal drive, scanned on an external Benq.
These are discs I have kept out of a pack or spindle over the passed couple of years from what is freely available in Oz.

I was concerned that the Verbatim LightScribe (LS) was so much better than the others, I scanned it twice.
However, the HP branded Verbatim LightScribe was only fair.

The Taiyo Yuden "Master" grade was no better than a TDK branded TY.

9 different discs, 6 different brands, 5 different disc manufacturers.

Disk Type Disk Manufacturer C1 C1 C1
Max Ave Total Qual
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Maxell Ritek 24 0.98 4690 96
Verb LS(Test 1) Verbatim 23 0.26 1251 96
TDK CD-R80PW Taiyo Yuden 13 1.16 5540 98
TY Master Taiyo Yuden 16 1.73 8291 98
Verb Silver CMC Magnetics 510 17.52 84004 7(had C2 err)
Verb Datalife + Verbatim 18 1.47 7053 97
Sony Supremas Sony 26 1.56 7457 96
HP LightScribe Verbatim 39 4.41 21157 94
Verbatim Colour CMC Magnetics 64 7.97 38219 89
Verb LS(Test 2) Verbatim 15 0.26 1236 98

This may not mean anything for other members and might only be representative of my setup / process.

This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 25. January 2007 @ 18:58

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Who manufactured the Verbatims . . I have LS Verbs made by CMCMag and by Moser Baer . . I have non-LS Verbs made by MCC, CMCMag and by ProDisc . . .

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Urgh. My previous post looks like a dogs breakfast - tabs or spaces not recognised!

Anyway, the words and numbers are meant to represent:
Disk supplier, disk manufacturer, C1 MAX, C1 AVE, C1 Total and the Nero Quality rating.

My HP Lightscribe identifies as Verbatim and the Verbatim Lightscribe identifies as Verbatim. Both have 97m34s23f for MID.

The Verbatim CD-R and Verbatim Colour CD-R are CMC Magnetics, but the Verbatim DataLifePlus (Super AZO) is a Verbatim

Edit: add the non-LS Verb details

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25. January 2007 @ 20:22 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Here's the list of CD-R results in a readable format.
Also, I included a scan on a new commercial pressed disc for comparison.

Pressed Disc
C1 Maximum: 26
C1 Average: 1.88
C1 Total: 7441
Nero Quality score: 96

Product: Maxell CD-RPW
Disc Manufacturer: Ritek
C1 MAx: 24
C1 Ave: 0.98
C1 Total:4690
Nero Quality score: 96

Product: Verbatim LightScribe
Disc Manufacturer: Verbatim
C1 MAx; 23
C1 Ave: 0.26
C1 Total: 1251
Nero Quality score:96

Product: TDK CD-R80PW
Disc Manufacturer: Taiyo Yuden
C1 MAx; 13
C1 Ave: 1.16
C1 Total: 5540
Nero Quality score:98

Product: Taiyo Yuden "Master Grade" Gloss White
Disc Manufacturer: Taiyo Yuden
C1 MAx; 16
C1 Ave: 1.73
C1 Total: 8291
Nero Quality score:98

Product:Verbatim Silver CD-R
Disc Manufacturer: CMC Magnetics
C1 MAx; 510
C1 Ave: 17.52
C1 Total: 84004
Nero Quality score: 7

Product:Verbatim DataLifePlus (Super AZO)
Disc Manufacturer: Verbatim
C1 MAx; 18
C1 Ave: 1.47
C1 Total: 7053
Nero Quality score: 97

Product:Sony Supremas
Disc Manufacturer: Sony
C1 MAx; 26
C1 Ave: 1.56
C1 Total: 7457
Nero Quality score: 96

Product:HP LightScribe
Disc Manufacturer: Verbatim
C1 MAx; 39
C1 Ave: 4.41
C1 Total: 21157
Nero Quality score: 94

Product:Verbatim Colour CD-R
Disc Manufacturer: CMC Magnetics
C1 MAx; 64
C1 Ave: 7.97
C1 Total: 38219
Nero Quality score: 89


2nd test on Verbatim LightScribe
Product: Verbatim LightScribe
Disc Manufacturer: Verbatim
C1 MAx; 15
C1 Ave: 0.26
C1 Total: 1236
Nero Quality score: 98
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Good info there Platy767
Txs!



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26. January 2007 @ 14:40 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
@binkie7

Would be even prettier if I could work out how to host the scan images!
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Try photobucket.com - free hosting site.

You can generate the url for message boards w/ photobucket.

Then just copy and paste the url in the post.

You'll just need to make the tag line lower case - photobucket default it upper case - example (remover astericks) [*img]www.photobucket.com[*/img]



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Here is a Verbatim (Verbatim Manufactured) LightScribe


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Platy767
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26. January 2007 @ 16:52 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Thanks Binkie7 for the tips.

Here is Taiyo Yuden "Master Grade" (The Good)



Here is Verbatim Colour CD-R (manufactured by CMC)(The Bad)



and here is Verbatim Silver CD-R (manufactured by CMC) (The ....)

 
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