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Shardel
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29. April 2007 @ 07:21 |
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Sounds to me like you have tried most of the combinations that have
been successful for others. Goodness knows I'm not an expert, but
there is one more combination you might try. You can't run AnyDVD
with RipIt4Me. You can run AnyDVD with DVD Decrypter and write a
file to the hard drive. Then run FixVTS on that file. After that
write to an ISO file using Shrink. Then burn with Imgburn. On
Pursuit Of Happiness this worked for me when nothing else would. I
have since used this combination on some others that were difficult.
It takes a little longer, but I got really nice results.
After all this if that doesn't work I would say you have either a
bad press or defective media. I got some defective 16X Sony a while
back and had to return them.
Good luck, I know how frustrating it can be.
By the way PacMan Congratulations-again thanks for all the help you
have been to me.
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res2cue
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29. April 2007 @ 08:18 |
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With the ripper built into AnyDVD you can now do this without using decrypter, (plus it removes all bad files while ripping to the HD) I think you are just causing yourself extra work.
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Shardel
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29. April 2007 @ 11:16 |
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I agree that the system you recommend is much more efficient. I tried
that on this particular movie and still had problems. The disc I had
was a bad press. However I was able to do it with the system I
mentioned when all else failed. Writing the file to the hard drive
with just AnyDVD or with DVD Decrypter-neither worked alone. The
two in combination did the job.
I love AnyDVD. It is always my first choice when I am backing up a
movie. That FixVTS program is a mini wonder too. For me when all
else fails I am open to experimentation. I learn a lot that way too.
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res2cue
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29. April 2007 @ 11:32 |
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Originally posted by Shardel:
However I was able to do it with the system I
mentioned when all else failed. Writing the file to the hard drive
with just AnyDVD or with DVD Decrypter-neither worked alone. The
two in combination did the job.
cool, I'll keep this in the back of my mind and if I ever am at wits end, atleast I'll have one other option...
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29. April 2007 @ 17:57 |
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There's been some good suggestions here. I've used and still use some of them. For Shardel I have a few pointers if interested. Slysoft said in one of their AnyDVD upgrades that when using DVD Decrypter with AnyDVD they suggested unchecking Check For Structure Protection under the General tab in Settings, use SPTI-Microsoft or ElbyCDIO-Elaborate Bytes as the Interface under I/O, and select None as the CSS Cracking Method under the CSS tab. According to Slysoft, they work better that way. You get the ripping quality of DVD Decrypter with the decryption power of AnyDVD. And as you pointed out the FixVTS is handy for when the files don't come out DVD compliant due to heavier copy protection.
A check I often use is opening the ripped files with Shrink to see if Shrink will do a complete quick analysis. It's a good check for compliance. If it passes, you probably won't need to process with FixVTS. The check saves the time of processing all the ripped files with FixVTS.
I almost missed the thank you. You're welcome and glad I could be of help.
res2cue
The AnyDVD ripper was handy when it first came along. Since then the studios have made the copy protection more difficult. Now Slysoft recommends using the CloneDVD 2 to rip with AnyDVD similar to the DVD Decrypter method. I guess that's for projects using encoders or something. Normally why not just transcode with CloneDVD 2 and be done with it. For whatever reason, Slysoft hasn't done a very good job of supporting the AnyDVD ripper.
For me I've had good luck with DVDFab Decrypter, AnyDVD + DVD Decrypter, and RI4M. As long as the software was up to date, the only thing I would occasionally need is to process a set of files with FixVTS. I've done most of the difficult new releases. I have to say when I know it's going to be a tough decryption, I've been going with RI4M. Part of that is because it does the whole job without having to manually use the FixVTS. With 1710 RI4M tells you when FixVTS isn't needed. What I'm saying is there's more than one way to do the job and it's handy to have more than one tool. With 2 of the big 3 being free, there's no reason not to have both or them.
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res2cue
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29. April 2007 @ 18:08 |
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I honestly can't remember the last time I used the AnyDVD ripper. I almost always use CloneDVD with AnyDVD in the back doing its thing. I know when the ripper in AnyDVD first came out it was top notch, I did not know that it hasn't been as reliable with the newer protections. Thanks for the heads up.
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29. April 2007 @ 18:16 |
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res2cue
You're using one of the best available according to what everyone is saying. I go a slightly different route with most DVD backups using RB/CCE. I still have the AnyDVD and CloneDVD 2 and any time I use them they work good.
I tried something different recently. I used AnyDVD and ImgBurn to rip a DVD9 to the HDD. It played okay on the PC. I don't know how it would have burned. Someday when I have a DL to waste I may try doing the whole job that way.
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res2cue
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29. April 2007 @ 18:36 |
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I have to admit I've yet to try using imgburn, I'll have to give it a shot, I might be missing out on something great. Thanks PacMan! :)
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30. April 2007 @ 17:45 |
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OK! I have HAPPYNESS, finally! Or is it nirvana by now? RipIt4ME 1.7.1.0 (with DVD Decrypter 3.5.4.0) worked in 1-Click mode (Movie Only). It's 3 built in options for cleanup VOB's et al worked fine. I used the built in burner just fine too at 1X, then tried MAX, and it was fine too. Sheesh!!! After all the fancier tries, sometimes the simplest option (RI4M) works! Thanks for all the support you guys! Jim
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res2cue
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1. May 2007 @ 08:26 |
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Miller, congrats at getting it to work, but I have to ask why you insist on continuing to burn at 1X...
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1. May 2007 @ 08:47 |
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LOL. Go on with your bad self 1xer. Your a quality type of cat. Right on. Once you know your using some good media ie. Tyuden, Verbs go ahead and notch up your speed. Sounds like its coming together for you. Pass your knowledge along.
Feel free to email me
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25. June 2007 @ 04:08 |
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For reference here is what I did to make it work after numerous tries:
1. DVD Fab
2. Fix VTS
3. Shrink
4. DVD Decrypter
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PacMan777
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2. July 2007 @ 00:12 |
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1) RI4M, DVDFab HD Decrypter, AnyDVD, DVD Region + CSS Free
2) FixVTS (as needed)
3) RB/CCE, DVDCopy5, CloneDVD2, DVD Shrink, DVDFab Platinum, ...
4) Nero, CopyToDVD, ImgBurn, ...
There's lots of working combinations to get a decent DVD backup.
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15. July 2007 @ 08:00 |
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Whoever wrote this program "RipIt4Me", I have one thing to say, many times:
I LOVE YOU! I LOVE YOU! I LOVE YOU! I LOVE YOU! I LOVE YOU! I LOVE YOU! I LOVE YOU! I LOVE YOU! I LOVE YOU! I LOVE YOU! I LOVE YOU! I LOVE YOU! I LOVE YOU! I LOVE YOU! I LOVE YOU! I LOVE YOU! I LOVE YOU! I LOVE YOU! I LOVE YOU! I LOVE YOU! I LOVE YOU! I LOVE YOU! I LOVE YOU! I LOVE YOU! I LOVE YOU! I LOVE YOU! I LOVE YOU! I LOVE YOU! I LOVE YOU! I LOVE YOU! I LOVE YOU! I LOVE YOU! I LOVE YOU!
Michael
p.s. Is the source code available?
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BlueCoder
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15. July 2007 @ 08:07 |
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oh, almost forgot, the same for DVD Shrink...
I LOVE YOU! I LOVE YOU! I LOVE YOU! I LOVE YOU! I LOVE YOU! I LOVE YOU! I LOVE YOU! I LOVE YOU! I LOVE YOU! I LOVE YOU! I LOVE YOU! I LOVE YOU! I LOVE YOU! I LOVE YOU! I LOVE YOU! I LOVE YOU! I LOVE YOU! I LOVE YOU! I LOVE YOU! I LOVE YOU! I LOVE YOU! I LOVE YOU! I LOVE YOU! I LOVE YOU! I LOVE YOU! I LOVE YOU! I LOVE YOU! I LOVE YOU! I LOVE YOU! I LOVE YOU! I LOVE YOU! I LOVE YOU! I LOVE YOU!
Michael
p.s. Is the source code available?
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res2cue
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15. July 2007 @ 10:29 |
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your love affair with both those programs will be short lived.
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15. July 2007 @ 13:49 |
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@pacman and res2cue
AnyDVD and Imgburn to build and write ISO on the DL DVDs is a process that can't be beat. Have never made a DL coaster with that combo. Have done at least 30 DL burns on Verbs.
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15. July 2007 @ 17:15 |
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Garmoon
I agree, I mentioned those in my post on various combinations that I've found to work well. But, why spend the cash on the DLs when RB can give you a high quality (full DVD) backup at a fraction of the cost using DVD5?
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16. July 2007 @ 02:47 |
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@garmoon
I agree with you. I was telling the poster who decided to post I LOVe with respect to rip**4me and shrink that those proggies are no longer supported so the love affair will be short. The programs are good, and still are useful, unfortunately they are getting weaker everyday.
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16. July 2007 @ 03:53 |
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Some movies just deserve a DL. If they were in the $.75 range, I would use DL for everything.
@res2cue
I understood your "love" comment. I was responding to you April post where you said you hadn't tried ImgBurn. Also with AnyDVD now working with Shrink, it's a good as it ever was.
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16. July 2007 @ 07:55 |
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Originally posted by res2cue:
@garmoon
I agree with you. I was telling the poster who decided to post I LOVe with respect to rip**4me and shrink that those proggies are no longer supported so the love affair will be short. The programs are good, and still are useful, unfortunately they are getting weaker everyday.
It never ceases to amaze me how certain people need to have one and only one set of programs to get things done (like DVD backups). I used DVD Decryptor for years, along with the beta version of Dr.DivX and it has worked flawlessly for quite sometime. The designers of those DVDs will always continue to find ways to debunk would-be DVD backup enthusiast.
DVD Decryptor became ineffective for recent movies. Normally the inventor would release an update, but he is no longer able to do that. So the next logical choice is to use what DVD Decryptor does so well, with a little 'help' from a calling program; enter "Ripit4me." It identifies the new tricks being employed on the DVD, and instructs DVD Decryptor what to avoid. The government can't take it away because "it" does do anything 'illegal.' (Neither does DVD Decryptor, but that's a different topic.)
A VOB is nothing more than a multi-channeled MPEG2 file. Instead of one movie and one sound track, it can contain 10 movies, 10 soundtracks, and 10 subtitles. Oh yeah, it also contains that brain dead CSS encrytion scheme. So DVD Shrink will be very effective on 99.9% of DVDs in existence today. And in the future so long as MPEG2 and VOBs (and IFOs) are used.
You can't say ANY program will work forever. All are short-lived. Concerning Blu-Ray and HD discs... and you can quote me on this... "if a consumer players exists to read these discs, a computer with the right hardware will be able too also read these discs."
Incidently, I use ImgBurn all the time. It was written by the same person who wrote DVD Decryptor.
As far as AnyDVD does, it will break down eventually and for the same reasons DVD Decryptor did. But will the programmers design an 'external' interface to interact with it, so something like "RipIt4Me v2-Now With AnyDVD" can be written? Time will tell.
Don't throw any weapons (tools) you have out the window just yet, the battlefield is changing and so will the enemies shields.
The hopeless romantic,
Michael
p.s. Speakng of weapons... on Star Trek when fighting the Borg, star fleet's laser weapons become quick 'ineffective' because the borg change their phase-modulation. I could never understand why they don't have the replicator generate an arsenal of Glock 39's and start shooting at their cyborg heads. :)
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PacMan777
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16. July 2007 @ 18:58 |
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Shrink and DVD Decrypter have been around since early on in DVD recording. Shrink is still functional, even though the decryption software is sometimes lacking (it never was the best). For transcoding and editing, Shrink does what it's supposed to and will function till we no longer need to shrink video from DVD9 to DVD5. When we move on to newer media formats, then the program will lose its usefulness. DVD Decrypter will still decrypt most of the DVDs on the market. Only some of the newer DVD releases with more difficult copy pretections developed since it lost support can stop it.
Funny thing, RipIt4Me 1710 tells us when to jump direct to Shrink. Nice setup for Shrink users.
Lightning UK gave us DVD Decrypter and it's still in use, though he no longer owns the rights to it and it's no longer considered freeware. It's still a good ripper and many people still use it with AnyDVD or in the RI4M setup. Anyone incorporating DVDD into a "calling" program (macro) is breaking the law and can be prosecuted. I suspect that's why RI4M was closed down so quickly. That and the action of breaking digital copy protection on a DVD is illegal. Go figure. The only legal survivors are the likes of Slysoft and DVDIdle that reside in a country not adhering to international copyright laws. When/if the agreements are signed with those countries those companies will disappear or move.
Blu-ray and HD DVD are the new format, but the hardware is still too expensive and recordable media is at ridiculous prices. It's as cheap or cheaper to buy an extra copy in those formats than to make a backup. Maybe someday... Are we finally going to see a use for DL? Maybe transcoding from the larger formats to DL. The new formats are so expensive, not many people are working with them yet to see what can really be done.
Decryption isn't a problem and hasn't been since the CSS code was released. For those really wanting to do a backup, when was it ever? Once Pandora's box was opened, anyone could bypass decryption and copy protection that was willing to look around for the tools.
Decryption software is the only thing illegal about the entire retail DVD backup process and the only thing with any real difficulty involved. The rest of the software can be used for working with home movies.
@BlueCoder
I'm happier using a select group of software, but note the list of good software that I posted earlier. Most of the members who frequent the backup forums are aware there's a number of programs to get the job done, fewest in the decryption group. It may appear many think there is only one good way, their way. However, many of us know there's a number of good choices and that it depends a lot on user preference. Choices become a bit more limited when it comes to encoding though.
Take care. As I have to remind myself, in the backup forums you're often preaching to the choir. LOL
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17. July 2007 @ 08:19 |
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Originally posted by BlueCoder
It never ceases to amaze me how certain people need to have one and only one set of programs to get things done (like DVD backups). I used DVD Decryptor for years, along with the beta version of Dr.DivX and it has worked flawlessly for quite sometime. The designers of those DVDs will always continue to find ways to debunk would-be DVD backup enthusiast.
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Whilst this might be true, most people aren't backing up older movies and the people that seem to come into thsi forum looking for help aren't having troubles with older movies are they? So whats the point in reccomending older programs that don't work well with newer movies, or won't in the very near future? I have many programs, new old, pay and free. They all have a purpose, and I'm not sure where you seem to think I only believe in one program and only one...
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@garmoon
Thanks for the head up... with there being no headache movies lately I didn't realize the issues with shrink had been resolved. Thanks
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PacMan777
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17. July 2007 @ 09:21 |
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Getting AnyDVD to work well with Shrink again was just one of Slysoft's accomplishments. Not sure if everyone is aware, Slysoft cleared up a lot of their ripper problems by adding modified CloneDVD to AnyDVD. They appear to have abandoned the FixVTS they were using before.
Edit: sad spelling. ;)
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