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article published on 15 February, 2008
It seems that over the course of the last month, HD DVD has been taking loss after loss, but it seems the giant retailer Wal-Mart has finally put the final nail in the coffin.
The company announced this morning that it has chosen sides in the next-gen format war and that by June it will only be stocking Blu-ray Disc players, completely dropping HD DVD in the process.
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hughjars
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15. February 2008 @ 13:59 |
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All this is is part of a series of events that was supposed to happen yesterday.
There was supposed to be a St Valentines day massacre of HD DVD.
Unfortunately for Sony & the BDA Universal & paramount refused to play ball.
But we have been left with 3 supporting tales coming out anyways.
The Hollywood Reporter story, the Toshiba Blu-ray player story & this post-dated pledge from Walmart
(which was as far as they were prepared to go).
June is a long way off and a lot of things can happen in a week never mind months - especially with HDM sales currently so low.
The Blu side have pulled every trick in the book and yet HD DVD is still standing, still there and still selling.
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15. February 2008 @ 14:11 |
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Wow, some people just can't let it go already....seriously. HD-DVD is DONE, there will not be a "come back" if you think so you are absolutely fooling yourself for no sane reason. It's almost sad when the writing is on the wall and it is BLATANTLY obvious to others but people just won't admit it.
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15. February 2008 @ 14:15 |
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It's is almost sad when the writing is on the wall and it is BLATANTLY obvious to others but people just won't admit it.
Isn't that the websters unabridged definition of a "fanboy" or is it just me?
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"By June, Wal-Mart will only be carrying Blu-ray movies and hardware machines and, of course, standard-def movies, DVD players, and up-convert players,"
Blowout sale!
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hm577
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15. February 2008 @ 14:17 |
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Whatever.............BOTH ARE HERE TO STAY BOYS AND GIRLS. Dual-format players will be standard.
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15. February 2008 @ 14:18 |
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Originally posted by hm577:
Whatever.............BOTH ARE HERE TO STAY BOYS AND GIRLS. Dual-format players will be standard.
Amazing, simply amazing.....
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15. February 2008 @ 14:20 |
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Originally posted by Oner:
Originally posted by hm577:
Whatever.............BOTH ARE HERE TO STAY BOYS AND GIRLS. Dual-format players will be standard.
Amazing, simply amazing.....
Lol. I think you're point was demonstrated Oner.
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d0nd
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15. February 2008 @ 14:24 |
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you bet its a fanboy thing but time can only tell
eh... with a single format we can look forward to "not " having to buy things twice =) (at the least)
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15. February 2008 @ 14:31 |
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Originally posted by 7thsinger:
Originally posted by Oner:
Originally posted by hm577:
Whatever.............BOTH ARE HERE TO STAY BOYS AND GIRLS. Dual-format players will be standard.
Amazing, simply amazing.....
Lol. I think you're point was demonstrated Oner.
Exactly.
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15. February 2008 @ 14:37 |
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Can we get back on topic, thank you...
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SDF_GR
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15. February 2008 @ 14:40 |
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Originally posted by Oner:
Wow, some people just can't let it go already....seriously.
4 reasons
1st He been paid off to support HD-DVD with any means.
2nd he is from those people they get fanatic with everything that they buy, and that needs doctor.
3rd He was keeping money for 100 years to buy HD-DVD player and he cant believe that will swallow it.He must even have nightmares.
4th He must be at the most 12years old and an x-box "taliban" that is something like reason 2 but he doesn't need a doctor cause is just a kid.
Originally posted by Hughjars:
Unfortunately for Sony & the BDA Universal & paramount refused to play ball.
But we have been left with 3 supporting tales coming out anyways.
Yea ... Spiderman,Superman and Batman that will join forces and kick that evil sonys a$$ and HD-DVD/Toshiba will rise once again and conquer the world!
You fav movie must be Matrix cause you live in an alternative reality.
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15. February 2008 @ 14:43 |
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Flame a format if you want. Stop flaming each other, grow up!
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glasssd
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15. February 2008 @ 14:45 |
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This is good news. I think the majority of shopers for High Def type product is done at Best Buy and Wal-Mart. When People see a unified backing on HiDef Media, they will buy into it more. I'm glad to see it is over. And, Thank you Oner for making statements.
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15. February 2008 @ 14:47 |
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Ya know back in november of 07 for ONE day only wal-mart ran the toshiba hd-dvd's for 99.95...and they NEVER ran that sale again...this actually took place BEFORE black sunday and you would THINK surely they would have ran this price yet again..yet.......they didn't , I wonder why??? I was upset I missed the sale at first now I think my lucky stars I did..BUT you know this don't feel like coincidence to me............I think the powers that be at toshiba or wal-mart new what was about to transpire in the coming months and they did that... ALSO peculiar was how the xbox 360 HD player I remember went way down and I went to buy 1 and they had took it back up to 179... I really dont give a rats behind who wins the format war I just know that neither me or any other average US citizen is gonna pay 400 dollars for a friggan player.......that was the WHOLE HDDVD appeal anyway.. I am really baffled HDDVD lost because they had so MANY great things going for them..such as it was known early on its a hell of alot cheaper to make HD over Blu...... so blu ray holds a few more gigs..big f'n deal....... so blu ray can do 1080 (P vs I) another big f'n deal as no satelite,cable or terrestrial digital broadcast offers 1080 progressive so the 1080 (progressive) is little more then sony's wet dream
this move is gonna hurt toshiba and consumers will lose all faith in them............... and if sony dont get blu ray players in wal-mart for 99.95 consumers are gonna lose faith in them as well......................
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15. February 2008 @ 14:49 |
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HD-DVD can "survive" in this market on the cost advantage.
I can use an HD-DVD player to upconvert the library of standard def DVD's and rip the new Blu-Ray movie releases to HD-DVD discs.
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15. February 2008 @ 14:52 |
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Originally posted by joeclam:
HD-DVD can "survive" in this market on the cost advantage.
I can use an HD-DVD player to upconvert the library of standard def DVD's and rip the new Blu-Ray movie releases to HD-DVD discs.
So true...
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smIam
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15. February 2008 @ 14:52 |
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It's sad to hear HD-DVD is falling by the wayside to the better marketed Blue-Ray format.
I don't think either format is really going to be a "winner" anytime soon. I feel the average consumer (not the hardcare videophiles) is quite happy with the picture quality and sound of the standard-def DVD's.
DVD only began to outsell VHS in December of 2003. It's too soon to tell consumers that their DVD library has to be tossed out in favour of the the new HD format which looks and sounds a little better but doesn't really offer much more.
DVD was a huge improvement from VHS, offering so much more that it made sense for people to make the switch. The improvements are simply not dramatic enough to give people a compelling reason to make a switch to HD so quickly.
I can also see the durability of these Blue-Ray discs being a concern as well. The average person who rents a disc will probably encounter many problems from mishandled rental discs.
Coupled with the expensive price, immaturity of the technology (remember those early DVD machines that don't play recordable DVDs?), easy and fast downloading on the horizon, and the American economy on the brink of recession, I think Blue-Ray might be what S-VHS was to VHS.
The only way I can see for Toshiba to keep floating the HD-DVD format is to release the standard-def DVD as a doubled-sided disc with HD on the flip side as a bonus.
That way consumers aren't "paying" for the HD version and therefore may be enticed enough to purchase the HD-DVD player.
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Ress
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15. February 2008 @ 14:53 |
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hey thats the spirit!! I was able to get YEARS of life added to the sega dreamcast by doing lil self made hacks and things
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glasssd
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15. February 2008 @ 14:53 |
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Why buy HD-DVD player. Just buy cheep upconverter
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hm577
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15. February 2008 @ 14:54 |
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Originally posted by d0nd:
you bet its a fanboy thing but time can only tell
eh... with a single format we can look forward to "not " having to buy things twice =) (at the least)
Ummm............if you can state ONE MAJOR DISADVANTAGE to having both formats around with dual format players being the standard then I will stand corrected. But you can't .............no one can. What are you, foreign?? "Not having to buy things twice." ??? That's a comment that can be expected from one whom is uninformed. Can you say "buy a movie like Transformers that's only available on HD-DVD and then buy a movie that's only available on Blu-ray like Pirates and then buy EITHER format when available on both". This goes for you too moderator and your comment......"Amazing, simply amazing that you can't see the light of day in front of you." Counter me with an intelligible and EXPLAINED disagreement and then just MAYBE you might actually convince ONE PERSON IN YOUR LIFE ON THIS PLANET to see your side.
Counter with your 'holier than thou' smirk remarks and it'll be clear that you have no basis for your claims or at the very least, nothing that counters my theory.
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15. February 2008 @ 14:58 |
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Originally posted by glasssd:
Why buy HD-DVD player. Just buy cheep upconverter
The Toshiba HD-A3 is one of the best up converters on the market and cheaper then a lot of the nice up converters out there.
Originally posted by hm577:
Ummm............if you can state ONE MAJOR DISADVANTAGE to having both formats around with dual format players being the standard then I will stand corrected. But you can't .............no one can. What are you, foreign?? "Not having to buy things twice." ??? That's a comment that can be expected from one whom is uninformed. Can you say "buy a movie like Transformers that's only available on HD-DVD and then buy a movie that's only available on Blu-ray like Pirates and then buy EITHER format when available on both". This goes for you too moderator and your comment......"Amazing, simply amazing that you can't see the light of day in front of you." Counter me with an intelligible and EXPLAINED disagreement and then just MAYBE you might actually convince ONE PERSON IN YOUR LIFE ON THIS PLANET to see your side.
LOL, is that you b4nned4life?? Sorry man but, you can't hide. I know that dual format talk when I see it.
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glasssd
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15. February 2008 @ 15:08 |
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If the HD-DVD player is being used as an Upconverter, That does not make HD-DVD survive.
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15. February 2008 @ 15:11 |
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GIVE IT UP! HD-DVD, while you still can, take the remainder of your dignity and go home. Wal-Mart Has Droppped it, so give it up!
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15. February 2008 @ 15:12 |
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Originally posted by glasssd:
If the HD-DVD player is being used as an Upconverter, That does not make HD-DVD survive.
/sigh...
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15. February 2008 @ 15:13 |
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Originally posted by hm577:
Whatever.............BOTH ARE HERE TO STAY BOYS AND GIRLS. Dual-format players will be standard.
JUST LET IT(HD DVD) GO MAN.!! READ THE NEWS!! STAY UP TO DATE!
GO BLU (GIANTS BABY)HAHA
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15. February 2008 @ 15:18 |
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Originally posted by glasssd:
Why buy HD-DVD player. Just buy cheep upconverter
The Toshiba HD-A3 is one of the best up converters on the market and cheaper then a lot of the nice up converters out there.
Originally posted by hm577:
Ummm............if you can state ONE MAJOR DISADVANTAGE to having both formats around with dual format players being the standard then I will stand corrected. But you can't .............no one can. What are you, foreign?? "Not having to buy things twice." ??? That's a comment that can be expected from one whom is uninformed. Can you say "buy a movie like Transformers that's only available on HD-DVD and then buy a movie that's only available on Blu-ray like Pirates and then buy EITHER format when available on both". This goes for you too moderator and your comment......"Amazing, simply amazing that you can't see the light of day in front of you." Counter me with an intelligible and EXPLAINED disagreement and then just MAYBE you might actually convince ONE PERSON IN YOUR LIFE ON THIS PLANET to see your side.
LOL, is that you b4nned4life?? Sorry man but, you can't hide. I know that dual format talk when I see it.
I don't think that was him............he was a bigger A**hole wasn't he (and all his aliases).
I gotta agree with him though........Dual format players is the splendid way to go.
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