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7. March 2008 @ 08:55 |
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@BlivetNC
those verbs you have, are they the newer disc with the new packageing? made in india? ive heard they have had some small problems, not in playback but with more notciable PIE error. a higher amount. i bought 100ct at microcenter the otherday for$23.good price for them. but they had the newer stuff. and they are mixed. some MII and some MIT. i got lucky and found the older packaged stuff.
@Scott
ive been useing dvd-rebuilder now for a month i guess. since my new build it takes on the average of 40 mins to do a 7+gb dl movie.
i did titanic and it took 48 mins.
you have the AMD 185 opty right? you should have apretty good times with that dont ya?
i dont know if there is a difference in the speed of the paid and free versions. i just think there are more options to use on the paid version.
i have been messing with dvd-rebuild myself. i didnt finish the movie but i used the disc as the source file and chose to do 6 passes instead of 2 and i also chose to burn to disc with imageburn afterwards. it started the process like normal. so id say it will do fine pulling from the disc.
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7. March 2008 @ 15:25 |
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cincyrob,
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i have been messing with dvd-rebuild myself. i didnt finish the movie but i used the disc as the source file and chose to do 6 passes instead of 2 and i also chose to burn to disc with imageburn afterwards. it started the process like normal. so id say it will do fine pulling from the disc.
According to the Author of DVDRB, there's almost no noticeable difference after 2 passes and is not worth the effort!
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7. March 2008 @ 15:33 |
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Originally posted by theonejrs:
According to the Author of DVDRB, there's almost no noticeable difference after 2 passes and is not worth the effort!
Best Regards,
Russ
Russ I agree with that only when reducing down to 4.7GB or so. ;) I believe if you're gonna stick 1, 2, or 3 movies on one disc then the multiple passes will help picture quality. I've only done that a time or two and it works fine but for the kiddies and they NEVER complain. lol.
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7. March 2008 @ 16:09 |
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oh i agree the 6 passes is a waste. i couldnt tell the difference in the 6 passes or the 2. i did it just to see what it does. playing around with the program to see what it can do.
you can use dvd-rebuild to combine 2 or 3 short movies also??? didnt know that might have to try that out.
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7. March 2008 @ 21:55 |
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@Cincyrob,
The Verbs in queestion, the older version, MIT, the same type I have been using for a while.
My next spindle is the 16X Sony disks, have never given me any problems either. I'm not giving up on the Verbs, just found the Sony's on sale when I needed them.
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8. March 2008 @ 00:54 |
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Just a few scans for the scanned depraved. hehehe. ;P
These were all burned with a Lite-On DH-20A3P (test f/w XV64 HT707)
Nero Create Disc
Scanned with same drive
bh RITEK R05 16X
mmwe MCC 003 16X
mmwe MCC 003 12X
There is a thread over at CDF's and it's been a long time coming with this f/w. It's still not perfect but it's about the best they've produced so far. Actually it's been fairly interesting watching this f/w mature. Anyway this drive has become a pretty good performer even at high speeds as you can see. :)
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8. March 2008 @ 01:23 |
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the 12x burn looks more consistent
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8. March 2008 @ 01:42 |
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You're right ZoSo but the RITEK R05 media is '2nd' class media I think and at that speed is an impressive burn. I don't normally burn mine that speed (12x or 8x for me) but I had to do some testing. I haven't done any at 18x or 20x yet but I'm sure I will. lol. Testing only....just gotta know. :P
btw did you notice that the 2 other burns were on MCC 003 (8x media!!) and the overspeed burn turned out ok. :D
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13. March 2008 @ 11:01 |
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13. March 2008 @ 11:04 |
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Originally posted by blivetNC:
@Cincyrob,
The Verbs in queestion, the older version, MIT, the same type I have been using for a while.
My next spindle is the 16X Sony disks, have never given me any problems either. I'm not giving up on the Verbs, just found the Sony's on sale when I needed them.
i also have noticed a higher than normal amount of PIE errors. i have 4 movies here im gonna do and try a few differnet things/programs and see what i come up with..
plus the verbs im useing are the older MIT's also
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13. March 2008 @ 11:24 |
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13. March 2008 @ 12:29 |
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very nice looking there loco. i didnt know image burn had that scanning proggie with it.. just found it myself.
im burning 101 Dalamatians now with imageburn useing the files i created with dvd-rebuilder. when done i will use dvdinfopro to check it
what was the speed you burnt that at?18x?
forgot to ask. what type a rig you build?
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13. March 2008 @ 13:01 |
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13. March 2008 @ 13:23 |
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Being a new build and all I forgot to set my default burn speed so those 16X MCC's were burned at a max of 20X with an average of 14X. LOL
I got a Q6600 (still stock O.C.) on a Gigabyte board. I only got it put together yesterday so I've yet to try DVDRB, but I will no doubt. That Potter disc was done full disc (7600MB or so) deep analysis and Max smooth in 13 minutes. I suspect my DVDRB times will be about the same as yours. There is a registry tweak for Hanks encoder that will utilize all four cores though, so maybe I'll edge you out. :)
EDIT: you can set Imgburn to save the graph data of a burn so that you can look at the various data such as CPU usage etc., just click the blue "i" button when the burn is finished and you'll get the information found in "create disc" with CD/DVD Speed.
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13. March 2008 @ 14:14 |
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rob you're not keeping the "foreign audio" streams are you?? You'll save some space and get more "movie" in your "product" if you eliminate those audio streams... ;)
Nice scans guys. And at 20X LOCO that looks pretty good. lol.
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13. March 2008 @ 15:29 |
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greensman,
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rob you're not keeping the "foreign audio" streams are you?? You'll save some space and get more "movie" in your "product" if you eliminate those audio streams... ;)
In a word, "Don't"! First off the audio portion is very small! Anything you take out should be done in the rip. I've tried removing audio streams in DVDRB, and it sometimes fails! At least that's my experience after over 300 runs with DVDRB! I think what happens is it alters the rip in some way and DVDRB won't process it right. The small amount of gain in video quality isn't even visible, side by side! Same thing with doing more than 2 passes. The tiny bit you gain is just not worth the extra time and effort! That comes straight from JDobbs, the author of DVDRB!
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Russ
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13. March 2008 @ 15:34 |
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yea i kept everything on it. i chose to pull it from the disc, so i left everything there. just incase i might wanna upload it somewhere ;)
35mins i think is awsome. from the 2 1/2 hours it used to take...lol
i could have ripped it first then done it andd it might have taken less time...
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13. March 2008 @ 15:53 |
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cincyrob,
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35mins i think is awsome. from the 2 1/2 hours it used to take...lol
Just keep in mind that the DVD was under 4GB, while this one is almost 7GB!
You are right about the bad old days though. back when I had a 733MHz P-III I used to start DVDRB/CCE and go to bed! LOL!! Even with the 3.0/800 P4 overclocked to 3.84GHz, it was still 2.5 hours or more. The D-940 knocked about an hour off of that. The E4300 got it down to about an hour or so. The E6750 lowered that to my present times.
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Russ
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13. March 2008 @ 18:02 |
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think i'll get out LOTR and try that in dvd-reb. or 300, couple really long movies there and see what i get.
just did some checking.. my 2700th post...lol
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13. March 2008 @ 18:09 |
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13. March 2008 @ 18:18 |
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LOCO go here and scroll down to your f/w. S203B (SB03 FB FR) DOWNLOAD it and then flash YO drive to make it better than it is now and prolly anything in yo puter!! :)
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This will be my 10834th post ;-)
Oh woop-tee-dooooooo!! ddp has like 2,340,982,472,304 posts. MATCH that. hehehe.
Seriously I have about 2100 or so. ROFL for as long as I've been here. Anyway.... with about 550 SV posts it'll be awhile and I've always thought about starting over just for poo-poo's and ha-ha's. :D
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13. March 2008 @ 18:31 |
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@LOCO
how long did it take ya with dvd-reb?
i got one at the house now waiting for me to post.i did the bonus disc of 101 dalmatians with nero recode and chose all the high quality settings 2 passes slower encoding ect.... it was about done when i left to come to work. so i'll see what i get when i get home.
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think i have about 300-320 SVpost myself.
stealing a quote from sling blade.."think its time to start up the band"
good to see some action back in this thread...we all got to building and havent been burning..well atleast i havent..lol
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13. March 2008 @ 20:57 |
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cincyrob,
I just wanted to show you the differences that you can encounter using DVDRB/CCE. Here's a DVD, "The Time Machine" that's over 500MB larger than 101 Dalmatians. The time is 3 minutes longer than yours was. Did you notice that yours required no compression which speeds things up a bit too!
I chose this particular movie because it's almost all video, with only 1 sound track and does require a little compression, yet is over 500MB larger and took only 3 minutes longer to process. It also makes a difference in which encoder/transcoder is used. Some are faster than others. So far I haven't found anything that works better than encoding with CCE! Some of the other Encoder/Transcoders are faster, but not as good in the quality department.
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Russ
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13. March 2008 @ 23:08 |
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You guys have made me curious to install and try DVD Rebuilder. Quick question: If I don't have CCE installed, I'm assuming there are some built in encoders. Which one should I select and use that'll give me the best quality?
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13. March 2008 @ 23:20 |
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Hank's encoder will work fine. There are other free ones too but if you can get the "simple" version of CCE it's pretty danged good. I think it's about $60, well it was about 2 years ago or so. ;)
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