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pitkin03
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10. January 2008 @ 20:20 |
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richpngu
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12. January 2008 @ 03:16 |
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i just did a burn using dvd shrink and burned with nero. i am trying to interpret if it is good or not.
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12. January 2008 @ 03:31 |
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rich it's difficult to say if the disc is good or not. If you don't know these scans are "eye candy" to quote someone if you will. ;)
A scan disc or TRT (benchmark) scan will tell you more about the "playability" of the disc. ;) Of course the BEST determining factor is the ability of the disc to play in a stand alone DVD player. :D
hth.....
btw... What speed did you record at? Did you use the DH-18A1P? Where was the media made? India or Taiwan? Just some standard questions. ;)
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richpngu
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12. January 2008 @ 03:41 |
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i burned at 4X and the dvds are MIT. they seem to play find in my dvd player without any problems. what does DH-18A1P mean?
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12. January 2008 @ 03:47 |
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Look at the scan you posted. ;) It shows the drive you scanned the disc with. I was just wondering if you used the same drive to burn as well. I think your scan is fine. I don't like the 2 clusters in the middle but I wouldn't worry about them unless you had a TRT scan that showed some interruption there or if you are having playback problems.
From what you indicated you have good playback so you should just fine. Those are good discs btw. I like the MCC 004 discs. Verbatim is a good inexpensive media provider. ;)
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12. January 2008 @ 07:17 |
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Originally posted by pitkin03:
Hi all, recently i have started to get some playback errors, thought it may be the film itself i have burnt but then thought it could be the disks. I have ran the nero cd dvd speed tool but am having dificulty in processing the results as im not sure what is acceptable or unacceptable really.
[IMG]http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u155/littlebouncers/nero2.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u155/littlebouncers/nero.jpg[/IMG]
I burnt this particular disk at 8x, which is what i normally burn at without any problems what so ever. The disks are PiData Ritek G05, used loads before and no problems.
Would the quality of the data effect the results in nero cd dvd speed tool or is really only the disk itself??
How many PI Errors, Average, maximum and total would be an acceptable level??
How many PI Failures, Average, maximum and total would be an acceptable level??
Any help appreciated
in the very first scan thread i started i posted a link to a site that breaks down the PIE errors and PIF erors. i will try and find it and post it again here.
if i remember correct your PIE errors you can have a single spike up to 280 and still have a good playback(on your scan you didnt get that high. only 127) myself i dont like seeing them that high but it does happen depending on the media you use. i would be a little concerned about that disc playing say 6months to a year down the road.
The PIF's should be under 32 i think it is.but i wouldnt want to see any that high. i think from my expereince that anything over 10 will be hard to have a playable disc. the PIF errors are the ones i tend to look at if the disc can be read in my players. for me if the PIF's are 4 or below im happy with the burn. but id say i can speak for most in here that we want them as low as possible the lower the better. a spike of 2 is most exceptable and desirable by most
AS my buddy greensman stated that these Quality test are mostly eyecandy to us here..lol they do tell you alot about the disc if they can be READ in your player or not.as for saying hey i got a 95 on the score doesnt mean it will be a perfectly playable disc for you,as if you had a 30 score dont mean it wont play at all. these test are testing the burn you did how good it was burnt to that disc...if you burnt corupt files to the disc it will still play the corupt file and you will have bad playback...
so in short
PIE errors=280 or less
PIF error=32 or less
that is the so called standard/ballpark figures
those numbers are the single spike numbers not the total amount #
PIE errors= 10
PIF errors= 2
that is what i want to see on my scans
hope this helps. i will try and find that info on the errors for you
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12. January 2008 @ 07:49 |
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12. January 2008 @ 08:20 |
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12. January 2008 @ 11:03 |
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cincy those are some sweet scans!! :D How you like them MCC 003's??? I'm waiting for them to go down in price here at my CompUSA!!! I think they're at $7.99 now!! $0.35 each isn't too bad but they might get better. hehehe. :)
Anyone use the Verbatim vinyl discs yet? I need some CD-R's and that's what they have available for pretty cheap. ;)
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12. January 2008 @ 11:19 |
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Originally posted by greensman:
cincy those are some sweet scans!! :D How you like them MCC 003's??? I'm waiting for them to go down in price here at my CompUSA!!! I think they're at $7.99 now!! $0.35 each isn't too bad but they might get better. hehehe. :)
Anyone use the Verbatim vinyl discs yet? I need some CD-R's and that's what they have available for pretty cheap. ;)
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the MCC 003's are way to sweet i think.i still am curious as to the COVER on the digital movie discthat i have here. if they are of a better quality than the regular disc???i dont know, but they are some good burning media. both(yes only 2) drive burn them bad boys with ease and a great success rate. havent had 1 bad burn with them.
the loweset QS i had was a 90 and that was at the very begining og the sacn it spiked to 4....but i think i had a big finger print on the disc so that might have done it...
you got your beast up and running yet? get the video cam out and run some clips of it....lol yes i got the want to so bad its unreal... just gotta wait.
oh yea.. ive tried about 10-12 of them verbatim Vinyl cd-rs a while back they code out as cmc-mag but that dont mean anything with cd-rs i havent had a problem one with the disc i burnt... not alot but no problems out of the ones i have burnt
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13. January 2008 @ 12:41 |
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ok ive got a few more burns here. once again on a few different type media.
i dont know whats going on i hope this drive isnt going out hell it aint even a year old.
ive burnt 4 -r TYs and these scans are nasty. one of them i tossed out didnt even think of keeping it.
i got my sons the very first season of the simpsons 3 disc set. bruning them onto some silver printable -rTYs these are scarey.
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i196/Cincrob/-rTY-1.png
the other 2 look the same i dont under stand this.
here is a ricohjpn 16+r printables here same type results
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i196/Cincrob/ricoh-1.png
well this one is a good one. the first one i didnt keep the scan..lol
and here is a couple DL riteks
on these i burnt and scan'd 1 on my SHW-160P6S and the other on my LH-18A1P things that make ya go Hmmmmmm
SHW-160P6S
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richpngu
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13. January 2008 @ 22:40 |
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i just did another burn and the scan showed that my quality was really bad. i burned the dvd using the same drive that i scaned with, burn was at 4x. using the latest version of nero and dvd shrink. the movie was compressed at 81%. when i did the burn, i did check the deep analysis and set the quality enhancement at default.
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14. January 2008 @ 06:20 |
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wow that scan does look bad. does it play? what speed did you burn it at from the looks of it id say you might have maxed it out. at 16x. was you doing anything online while you were burning? multitasking????
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14. January 2008 @ 06:34 |
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@richpngu
What brand are the discs you are using? Could be fakes. Dynex and MediaRange generally are quite inconsistant.
From the jags in your read line it apprears your drive is having problems reading the disc.
It could also mean that your drive doesn't like that brand of disc, try a different brand, preferably Taiyo Yuden.
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14. January 2008 @ 09:48 |
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There could be a few problems here. I read somewhere that the new version of CDSpeed was having issues but mainly TRT I think. ;) You might jump back a version or two of CDSpeed and see what results you get especially if you have LEGIT media. :D
I'm jumping on the FAKE media bandwagon at this point but w/o more input I really don't know. I've never seen that media burn that poorly with any drive let alone a Lite-On even at HIGH speeds.
More info please. lol.
Where it was made. Manufacturer ID with DVDInfo or Nero Info tool or DVDIdentifier. Distributer label (who's name is on it) and whatever else you can think of. :D
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richpngu
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14. January 2008 @ 13:46 |
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its a verbatim dvd MIT from the same spindle as the one i posted a little earlier in the thread. i set the burn setting on the 4x. i didnt burn at the highest setting at all even though the dvds are rated at a 16x. when i played in the dvd player the picture quality seem perfectly fine, which is odd because the quality score was really low.
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14. January 2008 @ 16:00 |
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richpngu,
So they are GENUINE Verb's?? Well it seems you either have an issue with CDSpeed or the drive you have is not reading correctly. ;S Try a burn at 8x, 12x, and 16x to see what happens. Preferably with create disc (means you'll waste 3 discs) or a LARGE iso from your HDD. You'll have to choose the ISO after going thru the menu for create disc.
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14. January 2008 @ 19:12 |
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Originally posted by richpngu:
its a verbatim dvd MIT from the same spindle as the one i posted a little earlier in the thread. i set the burn setting on the 4x. i didnt burn at the highest setting at all even though the dvds are rated at a 16x. when i played in the dvd player the picture quality seem perfectly fine, which is odd because the quality score was really low.
see right there goes to show ya you cant totaly believe what these scans tell ya...lol playback is the main thing if it plays good for you then your good to go.
BUT greensman is right there is either something going on with your drive reading the disc before the burn or CD Speed test is doing something funny....to be honest i just got like 4 or 5 burns that looked like that. i did adisc cleanup and defrag and got back to my normal burns. even got 2 98 QS scores been a while since i had a couple of them...maybe try to do a defrag and cleanup on your HDD's it wont hurt only help....
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15. January 2008 @ 01:55 |
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rob
the BigTen network is BS man can't watch your local team without paying!
my scans are all kickass as of late
my Plextor/Pioneer drives are working well and the Lite-On
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15. January 2008 @ 08:46 |
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I'm afraid Mr. Rob is going to get a reality check later on in the season when the NCAA tournament starts,
@richpngu,
I'd like to echo the comments made by previous posters that sometimes the quality score/scan doesn't mean very much when a particular brand of disks plays flawlessly in your particular standalone player. Remember, most dvd players are better able to handle flaws in the disk pressing and smudges, fingerprints and scratches on the surface of the disk. IF you find a combination of media and burn program and burn speed which works for you, then stick with it and post a couple of scans. Also as a footnote, I have one of the first disks I ever burned which has a quality score of Zero, yet still plays without a hitch, go figure.
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15. January 2008 @ 10:57 |
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17. January 2008 @ 03:19 |
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this is why i burn 8x media at 8x why not? lol
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17. January 2008 @ 03:32 |
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Originally posted by blivetNC:
I'd like to echo the comments made by previous posters that sometimes the quality score/scan doesn't mean very much when a particular brand of disks plays flawlessly in your particular standalone player.
Also probably should be mentioned that not all burners perform equally when scanning. Some are great burners, but not as good as a scanners( not because they are faulty). Same discs can show different scan values, different quality scores when scanned in two different drives.
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18. January 2008 @ 10:13 |
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heres a leason well learend.
i got out a couple of the first disc i ever burnt.almost 2 years ago.
one of them i put a full sticky cover on and the other just put the inner hub cover on it. the inner hub coveris fine . the scan isnt all that bad
the second one with the full sticky cover is the most beautiful thing you would ever see....
inner hub cover
BEAUTIFUL
yes i still have about 150 movies with covers on them...lol thank god for AD.... and Epson printers and printable media..lol
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20. January 2008 @ 19:21 |
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Two scans of the same movie but different speeds.
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