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The Official PC building thread - 4th Edition
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16. August 2011 @ 12:28 |
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No, the storm 1000 only comes with two fans, but spaces for three. The top fan is not included, according to the newegg page.
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16. August 2011 @ 12:29 |
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16. August 2011 @ 12:30 |
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I'm glad my PCs live in a smoke free environment! That's pretty disgusting :P
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16. August 2011 @ 12:39 |
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thats just nasty!
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16. August 2011 @ 12:40 |
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LOL! That's exactly what I was thinking! Must have been a smoker. I'm a smoker, but I don't smoke near my equipment. I used to. Amazing that system still works!
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16. August 2011 @ 13:48 |
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yep he is a smoker. i didnt even bring it in the house to it straight to my work shed. and cleaned it up some out there then brought it in to put it all back together.. running fine now.. for another year until he burns it up again with no air to it....
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16. August 2011 @ 14:13 |
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I recently removed the 3 opticals (ie all of them) from my Antec 900 and put in a 3rd drive cage to hold extra hard drives. Don't do much DVD burning anymore but the odd time that i do i have various external opticals. It was just a waste having 3 drive bays taken up by opticals, no room on the desk to upgrade to a bigger case ie Antec 1200 or similar, dust/mainly cat hair is bad enough with all the fans going out of their way to suck in all the crud, never mind the thought of the case being down on the floor.
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16. August 2011 @ 16:37 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
No, the storm 1000 only comes with two fans, but spaces for three. The top fan is not included, according to the newegg page.
Sam,
My bad I didn't notice the word optional in there. I would get the 2 120mm fans in favor of the 200mm single. It would cost about the same, and move just about as much air.
Russ
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16. August 2011 @ 17:14 |
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Both the side and top 230mm fans on my 932 were replaced with a total of six 120s, so that should say where I stand :P
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16. August 2011 @ 18:15 |
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Are 6 120's quiet enough for you? Let's say that all of them were running at 800Rpms. Is that pretty quiet? And probably moving more air than the 230's ;)
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16. August 2011 @ 18:34 |
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Yeah, very tolerable. They do move a reasonable amount of air too.
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17. August 2011 @ 06:37 |
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Originally posted by omegaman7:
Are 6 120's quiet enough for you? Let's say that all of them were running at 800Rpms. Is that pretty quiet? And probably moving more air than the 230's ;)
Oman7,
Generally not too quiet, because the quietest 120 I know of that moves a high amount of air is the Silverstone FN-121 that moves 53cfm of air. there's also the Scythe SY1225SL12M 120mm "Slipstream" Case Fan that moves 68 CFM of air, but are not too good as intakes. They just don't have a lot of air pressure. It does work excellent as my "Pull" fan on the CoolIt R-120 ALC CPU cooler, in conjunction with the stock 1800rpm 63cfm fan. If I do get the Storm 1000 case, I'll put in 2 FN-121 120mm fans. That will give me 106cfm total airflow. Most of the 200s are either 76cfm or 89.5cfm. I don't see any 230mm fans at all at newegg. Nzxt makes a 200mm 1300rpm 166cfm fan, but it is 37+ dBA. Too loud for me! LOL!!
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Russ
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17. August 2011 @ 06:44 |
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Depends what they're pushing against, in a simple grille setup without thick filters, the slipstreams work pretty well (even if they are quite unreliable), but in a dusty environment where you need thick dust filters I can see why you'd go for a 7-blade fan instead. I would like to try NZXT's 200mm fan, because the one reason I dislike massive case fans is they never go fast enough to be any better than an equivalent number of smaller fans. Four 1900rpm slipstreams on my side panel and two on the top allow 500CFM plus, well in excess of the 250CFM or so the pair of 230mm fans put out. I assume it's for current reasons, because a 200mm fan that fast would way overdraw a board fan connector, but be fine hooked up to a controller.
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17. August 2011 @ 07:06 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
Depends what they're pushing against, in a simple grille setup without thick filters, the slipstreams work pretty well (even if they are quite unreliable), but in a dusty environment where you need thick dust filters I can see why you'd go for a 7-blade fan instead. I would like to try NZXT's 200mm fan, because the one reason I dislike massive case fans is they never go fast enough to be any better than an equivalent number of smaller fans. Four 1900rpm slipstreams on my side panel and two on the top allow 500CFM plus, well in excess of the 250CFM or so the pair of 230mm fans put out. I assume it's for current reasons, because a 200mm fan that fast would way overdraw a board fan connector, but be fine hooked up to a controller.
Sam,
The big problem is finding 230mm fans! Newegg doesn't list any! That's why I opted for 200mm fans because I want something that can easily be replaced.
The Nzxt 200mm FN200RB moves 166cfm of air@ 1300 rpm, but makes too much noise at 37.26 dBA. Sure, you can slow it down, but 2 Silverstone FN-121 120mm fans will move 106cfm at 1200rpm with almost no noise at all! it's the quietest fan in my case after the 800rpm Scythe Kama Bay fan. Dust does not seem to be an issue with them either. I still have my first one that I bought over 1 1/2 years ago, and it's still very quiet.
Russ
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17. August 2011 @ 13:04 |
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Perhaps they're moving away from the 230mm fans. I'm not seeing any either. Which is fine and good. It seems more logical to have multiple 120mm fans at lower Rpms(with the option of high speed), than a large fan at a reasonable Rpm. Though expensive :S My next tax return though I'll be able to build a very powerful computer. Should be my best yet! I'll likely upgrade my GPU at the time too :D
I wonder if I'll go with another HAF case, or something entirely different. I may decide to go with a case based on how many hard drives it can hold. What can I say, I'm a hard drive hoard.
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17. August 2011 @ 13:21 |
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They are, the 200mm fans are their replacement so that they can use a standard size. Originally, the 'large' fan designation was 250mm, some brands like CM chose 230, and Antec 200. Now though, we seem to be finally approaching a standard size so you can replace fans with various brands, a long time coming. I had my eyes on an NZXT Phantom a while back, but with so much spare hardware, I don't have the heart to sell any of my cases, so I won't be buying any new ones for a long time to come.
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17. August 2011 @ 13:42 |
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17. August 2011 @ 13:46 |
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17. August 2011 @ 14:28 |
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I like the look of the corsair too. I'm gonna have trouble choosing another case LOL! I will be choosy though. 2 large cases should be all I'll ever need ;) I'll probably be cheap though. Don't wanna spend a good percentage of my return on just the case :S Though I realize you get what you pay for.
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17. August 2011 @ 14:29 |
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17. August 2011 @ 14:31 |
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The 800D wouldn't be much good for me as a server case though as the max it can hold even with a bay adapter is 10 HDDs, whereas my current NZXT Whisper will hold 17 (and indeed, I had 13 in it for quite some time, and have 11 in it right now)
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17. August 2011 @ 14:41 |
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Originally posted by omegaman7:
Perhaps they're moving away from the 230mm fans. I'm not seeing any either. Which is fine and good. It seems more logical to have multiple 120mm fans at lower Rpms(with the option of high speed), than a large fan at a reasonable Rpm. Though expensive :S My next tax return though I'll be able to build a very powerful computer. Should be my best yet! I'll likely upgrade my GPU at the time too :D
I wonder if I'll go with another HAF case, or something entirely different. I may decide to go with a case based on how many hard drives it can hold. What can I say, I'm a hard drive hoard.
Oman7,
The whole point of my thinking on using a pair of Silverstone FN-121 fans is that they are so quiet, Vibration free and extremely reliable, even at full speed. I never expected in a million years that they would be so reliable. Traditionally, most non ball bearing fans have a History of early failure in this part of the country, even the magnetically sealed ones. The particle size of the dust here is astonishingly small, yet hard as a rock. Even Fluid Dynamic bearings don't last. The Scythe Slipstreams have held up very well too, and they are not ball bearing either.
Hey! We may be moving to Colorado. The altitude where we are looking is 4066', but the air is so much cleaner than in So California! I get off to the idea of being able to see more than just the 3 or 4 brightest stars in the sky at night, as I haven't been able to see constellations since I first moved here 11 years ago. I have a couple of good telescopes, but they aren't of much use if there's nothing to see! :0) I'll let you know!
Russ
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17. August 2011 @ 14:49 |
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A lot of it is down to mounts. Most cases transmit quite a lot of vibration with fans mounted laterally, especially side fans as they are mounted directly to the side panel rather than a bracket of some kind first. Vertical vibrations are much lower, hence the same fans in the same case, my top slipstreams are barely audible until about 1500rpm where the airflow noise becomes evident, yet the side slipstreams produce clearly audible tones above about 750-800rpm. This is true of every fan tested in the HAF932, from blaring Silverstone FM121s, to Scythe Slipstreams, Antec Tricools, and Nexus realsilents. At the front, back or top, they'll be pretty quiet in most steel cases (front and rear only in most aluminium cases, sometimes front only), but on the side, there's a universal offset of noise by several decibels.
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17. August 2011 @ 14:50 |
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LOL! plenty of stars here :p No city lights to muck up the scenery.
I'm probably gonna get the brow for this, but I gotta ask. What do you think of this one? Based on hard drive capacity, I think it's a freak!
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811103039
What IS the largest affordable case considering hard drive capacity?
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17. August 2011 @ 16:38 |
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It takes true skill for XClio to make their cases so ugly :P
I'm usually pretty tolerant with aesthetics, but lol, that case is hideous, sorry!
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