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4. August 2011 @ 14:17 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Really? Mine don't. The heads unload, but that's maybe a fifth of a second to wake up. If they were to spin down, I'd know. Because that takes several seconds to wake up ;) My drives are always ready, other than the head unload.

I guess I'll know if the replacement cable fixed the problem tonight. I always stream netflix at night. I always encounter a problem within an episode. So I'll know.



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Never used to be an issue, and as I say, this only affects my gaming PC. This version of windows is clearly quite badly broken :P



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Nope! Wasn't the s-ata cable :(

Windows reformat it is...

If it is the OS(7600) perhaps SP1 will correct the issue.



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I think I solved the issue. Time will tell. During the last lockup, I noticed a "Processes with Disk activity" process. Searchindexer.exe! I swear I disabled that once upon a time! I wonder how it reactivated. Perhaps I reinstalled windows, and simply forgot to disable it again. I hope that solves the issue. I believe others have had this issue too.



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"There is nothing wrong with green drives they're just slower? Don?t you think slower is something wrong! Please.......

Well Kevin if you haven't noticed MS's poor programming and the hammering HDD then I guess it doesn't exist. Are you kidding?

You can choose to ignore that this is a fact if you wish that is your prerogative of course.

Save your self some time and make an image of a clean good install and you can recover your system in a half hour or less. That is what I do.

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Not for my purposes no, I don't need 100+MB/s to watch films and play music off my fileserver. I have a 7200rpm Caviar black for my games, and two SSDs for OS drives, so where I need speed, I have it :P



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Other than the search indexer, I have no complaints about windows 7 Or M$. The coding is certainly better than XP. But that of course is a matter of opinion ;) I would probably run Linux, but there's a learning curve there. I just haven't gotten around to it. I'd prefer a secondary system for running it. Yes, I could dual boot, but meh...

agreed on making a backup image. Never done it, I really should. I probably will this next time. :p



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If Linux was so much better, everybody would be running Linux. MS is the unfortunate way to go. What they do that angers us the most can usually be worked around to make a tolerable environment.



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Originally posted by sammorris:
If Linux was so much better, everybody would be running Linux. MS is the unfortunate way to go. What they do that angers us the most can usually be worked around to make a tolerable environment.
lol, agreed.

Watching netflix (Roswell) right now. THe bug remains. Apparently not indexsearch.



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Originally posted by omegaman7:
Other than the search indexer, I have no complaints about windows 7 Or M$. The coding is certainly better than XP. But that of course is a matter of opinion ;) I would probably run Linux, but there's a learning curve there. I just haven't gotten around to it. I'd prefer a secondary system for running it. Yes, I could dual boot, but meh...

agreed on making a backup image. Never done it, I really should. I probably will this next time. :p
Programming in Seven is worst than XP for networking, and energy saver features. Both have bloated since XP but there are other aspects that are worst as well. The GUI is much nicer though of course and that is what seems to be most important these days.

Linux definately has issues too, I wouldn't say it was better just different.
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I totally agree about the networking issues. Forgot about that one :S

It'd be my luck, that it's yet another raptor drive failing :( And given the SSD track record, I don't know if I'm ready to trust them yet...

The long awaited reformat is under way in minutes. Wish me luck LOL!



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SearchIndexer.exe is part of the Windows Search and Indexing service. Disable Windows Search in services and it will stop appearing.



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Originally posted by omegaman7:
I totally agree about the networking issues. Forgot about that one :S

It'd be my luck, that it's yet another raptor drive failing :( And given the SSD track record, I don't know if I'm ready to trust them yet...

The long awaited reformat is under way in minutes. Wish me luck LOL!
oman7,

Is this cheap enough for you?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227725&nm_mc=EMC-IGNEFL080411&cm_mmc=EMC-IGNEFL080411-_-EMC-080411-Index-_-SSD-_-20227725-L0D

I know I'm considering one!

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60Gb isn't enough :p I'd feel safer with 100 - 120Gb.

I already disabled Searchindexer twice today. On the old format, and on my new format. WOW! I forgot how snappy things could be. Don't get me wrong, it was pretty quick before, but a reformat always makes things a little snappier. So far no bug. Unfortunately, either my ISP is dicking around on their end, or my phone line is going down the crapper. Probably number 2. My brother has the same provider, and his connection has been stable for 800+ hrs. Mine is lucky to be stable for 20+ hrs. No, i'm not being throttled...
If the bug is truly gone(which I believe it is), I'll begin by installing things one at a time, and watching an episode of Roswell via netflix :D I'm wondering if it's one of the S-ata card drivers. It has to be something associated with the hard disks... At least I would think. But who knows eh? So far, I only have one storage drive connected. And it's connected to the mainboard. I'll begin with my 3Tb drive/card tomorrow. I'm pretty sure that one is not the culprit, because this bug dates back before I got the drive and card.



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Originally posted by theonejrs:
Originally posted by omegaman7:
I totally agree about the networking issues. Forgot about that one :S

It'd be my luck, that it's yet another raptor drive failing :( And given the SSD track record, I don't know if I'm ready to trust them yet...

The long awaited reformat is under way in minutes. Wish me luck LOL!
oman7,

Is this cheap enough for you?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227725&nm_mc=EMC-IGNEFL080411&cm_mmc=EMC-IGNEFL080411-_-EMC-080411-Index-_-SSD-_-20227725-L0D

I know I'm considering one!

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Three eggs? I know newegg reviews aren't much to go by, but it's rare that a product scores that low with that many reviews, it's a little disconcerting!



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Also keep in mind Sam that a good chunk of those bad reviews are people who bought the drive and didn't know how to use it. I'll have to say though it does have some seemingly widespread problems.

I still don't like the whole pre-determined lifespan thing for SSDs. That can basically go f*** itself because I'm not buying a product designed to quit working. That's the dumbest thing I've ever encountered in my entire history of working with computers. I'm so turned off to the whole SSD craze it's not even funny. What a junky waste of money. For the record I already have several drives well past the death-limit of an average SSD. They don't last long at all even when they work right. That's a major problem.



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Originally posted by Estuansis:
Also keep in mind though Sam that a good chunk of those bad reviews are people who bought the drive and didn't know how to use it.
Estuansis,

I was just starting to post the same thing! LOL!! Idiots Abound!

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Read my edit though. SSDs are basically a waste of time for the foreseeable future. Some are better than others but the current state the tech is at right now should still be in dev labs, not on store shelves.



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I'm not a huge fan of SSD but with the leveling algorithm they should last as long as a good HDD and they are faster. I would be willing to try them out but would not use them for data storage, just for the OS and temporary storage.

Also if you need a high impact drive or for other special needs they are great. Of course price is still an issue.

You never can go by NewEgg?s reviews as they tend to be the worst, they have more experts that at best are novice I never put any type of weight on their reviews but they are good for a chuckle for sure.
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Arguably, mechanical products are designed to wear out too. The only thing they have going for them is that when they fail, the data is recoverable by expert agents, whereas with SSDs, it's not. Performance aside, the durability of SSDs with temperature, shock and damp etc. is enough to make up for the write cycle limit shortcomings, for me.



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not to mention, I'm sure most of you switch up your HDDs (atleast your OS drives) every couple of years.



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Yes and no, I have been through a few OS drives, but I did end up using the 37GB Raptors on and off over a period of almost five years, so I got my money's worth out of those at least. The OS drive in my server was until earlier this summer when I put an SSD in, an old WD2500JD from 2005. The OS drive in the third PC is a WD5000AAKS from early 2007, and the OS drive in the fourth is still the 37GB Raptor even now.



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Actually I use my older drives typically for OS and new drives for critical data as I have a backup image for my OS drives and it is no big deal if they go down. I image my data drives but not constantly so I always could loose something if they went down and I couldn't recover the data running program(s) to retrieve on it.
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Well darnit! I won't need to watch an episode on netflix. I haven't installed much at all, and the bug remains. I'm wondering very much so about my mainboard. I guess the thing to do is disconnect all non vital hardware, and go from there. E.g. all S-ata cards. It'd be a shame if it's a chip on the mainboard. I was hoping to use it as my BD workhorse :( Now I won't get my hopes up...

I should really try one of my WD1001FALS drives as the OS drive. I have a feeling that may correct the issue.



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I assume you've tried a new windows install in case it's software?



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