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14. September 2011 @ 20:09 |
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Originally posted by omegaman7:
Looks like I'm going right to the source for my Dell monitor this friday. I spoke via chat. Let's just say, I reserved a very good price on it. Looks like Dell beat ebay for once :D I can hardly wait LOL!
Oman7,
Good for you!
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15. September 2011 @ 00:46 |
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Thanks man. I was quite amazed when I went to their site, and saw that they had marked their price down to a reasonable one.
I'm still curious if there is something better in the price range. But perhaps Dell has the bragging rights eh?
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19. September 2011 @ 00:11 |
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Well, I think I may have found the problem on my system. I'm transferring files right now, so I can use one of my Black drives for OS. I was gonna use a flash drive, but I just don't see a flash drive accommodating my needs LOL!
I decided to check the smart statistics using speedfan. WD's utility reported nothing wrong with the drive. Well...I'm not sure how to interpret this, but it doesn't look good :(
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19. September 2011 @ 00:19 |
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Also remember SMART doesn't always read drives right. I have a Seagate drive that also shows an astronomical amount of errors on SMART and it's a common error with the program. Though if you really are getting that many errors it can't be good.
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19. September 2011 @ 00:40 |
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Given the problems I'm encountering, I have to believe it's at least partially correct :( I'm now 99% sure, if I switch OS drives, the problem will vanish. Yet another Vraptor that has gone south. I won't trust them again unfortunately. Honestly though, the black drives are no slouches. I wonder what causes that to happen though?
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19. September 2011 @ 02:26 |
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Originally posted by omegaman7:
Given the problems I'm encountering, I have to believe it's at least partially correct :( I'm now 99% sure, if I switch OS drives, the problem will vanish. Yet another Vraptor that has gone south. I won't trust them again unfortunately. Honestly though, the black drives are no slouches. I wonder what causes that to happen though?
Oman7,
If you consider the tolerances in a modern HDD, I would guess, Wear and Tear. Consider that the gap between the platters and the heads is smaller than a particle of cigarette smoke, which will cause physical damage to any mechanical HDD. Fit and finish is everything to a long lasting HDD. The closer the tolerances, the longer the drive will last.
BTW! A number of people have told me that they didn't think I would gain very much from switching to a DDR3 motherboard were wrong. Everything works better on this 990XA motherboard. The sound, which is Blu-ray full rate lossless audio, with a signal to noise ratio of 108dB. You hear everything, even things you never heard before from the same music or movie soundtrack you've listened to before. It's also about 12% faster at any given speed. The motherboard and memory, along with a new tube of MX2 cost me $193.47 delivered, and I think it was a bargain considering what I've wound up with. With all the different adjustments to research, I may well be able to increase the performance difference a good bit more. It's a very happy choice for me, and I couldn't see myself putting any more into DDR2 since I had pretty much run out of update options for the 790X! Now I've got the latest tech from AMD and whatever upgrade future that holds! Bulldozer, at least!:>)
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19. September 2011 @ 02:48 |
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I got it in february of last year. Directly from Western digital. It was a replacement to another Velociraptor, that kept dropping connection. The bios wouldn't even see it at times. Tried different sata cables to no avail. This ones problem is clearly different. My warranty is good til 2014. But I wonder if I'll even bother. I guess I could cash in the warranty, and then sell the replacement...
I'll probably clone my Veloci to one of my WD1001FALS drives. I've ran one before, and it was quite similar in speed. Provided I don't saturate the drive with too much data ;) Come tax return time, I'll purchase a solid state disk. A good one! :D
You know what, I think I tested one of my 2000Gb drives with WD's diagnostic. I never tested the Raptor. I just did, and it's showing one reallocated sector count. The only drives I've ever seen reallocated sector counts from, are Raptors, maxtors, and one seagate drive. None of my other drives have any. I'd consider this yet another sign. Even though 1 sector count isn't the end of the world ;)
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19. September 2011 @ 03:27 |
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You have definitely ascertained it's not the cable at fault? One reallocated sector doesn't spell doom for a drive, I ran 37GB raptor for two years that I bought for £5 second hand (c.f. £87 for the other one when new), because it had one reallocated sector. It never picked up any more, worked fine for the two years I had it. I still have it now, just don't use it.
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19. September 2011 @ 12:09 |
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I'll find a brand new cable for it. If that doesn't work, I'm giving up on the drive. Pretty sure I switched its cable not that long ago. If a brand new one doesn't correct the issue, I think I'll have my verdict ;)
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19. September 2011 @ 14:08 |
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Man, I just scared the Ba-Jesus out of myself LOL! I forgot to switch off the PSU's power. When I reconnected the GPU, it powered on! Thankfully my reflexes are very quick. Not as fast as electricity obviously, but apparently the board suffered no ill effects. VERY VERY lucky...
The SMART statistics are unchanged. I plan to continue with my original plan, and clone the data to my Black drive. Then i'll do a complete reformat of the Veloci. And run a secondary OS from it. If it checks out, I'll run it for a time longer. If it doesn't help, at least I'll have the Black drive, til I can replace it with an SSD in february ;)
I really hope I can count on my Tax return :S
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20. September 2011 @ 13:54 |
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My black drive is going strong. Absolutely zero lockups :) The Veloci verdict is not looking good :(
My future plan is to upgrade to this badboy. What do you think?
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20. September 2011 @ 14:10 |
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when editing existing post, no new update is sent.
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20. September 2011 @ 14:15 |
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No, I have never seen any evidence of this happening.
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20. September 2011 @ 14:27 |
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ahem, bad drive! wonder who suggested that :p
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20. September 2011 @ 14:30 |
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LOL! I didn't wanna believe it :( Two lemons in a row is fairly unbelievable when speaking V-raptor. But then, looks like it isn't too uncommon. I won't get another. But I don't think WD is gonna honor a refund at this point.
Does that Vertex 3 look like a good choice? It's certainly one of the quicker ;)
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20. September 2011 @ 21:45 |
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Originally posted by shaffaaf:
ahem, bad drive! wonder who suggested that :p
Shaff,
Several people! LOL!!
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21. September 2011 @ 00:29 |
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Originally posted by omegaman7:
Does that Vertex 3 look like a good choice? It's certainly one of the quicker ;)
yes If
you make sure you have updated firmware before using it...And check the forums to see which chipset driver works best with that drive...If i remember right, you use intel storage matrix for intel boards, not microsoft generic driver. BUT with AMD board, use microsoft generic driver, not the AMD version. you can find more detail in their support forums.
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21. September 2011 @ 01:15 |
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Thanks Deadrum. I've actually been reading a great deal of the reviews. So hopefully I won't make mistakes that others have ;) E.g. I'll update the firmware before I install the OS on it. And I'll definitely have AHCI completely enabled in my bios. ALL drives will be set for this. Not sure why one of my current drives is IDE. I seem to have different controllers on my board.
I probably won't get it til february. But who knows. Black friday may just tempt me with certain deals. It does every other year. Last year was rather disappointing.
Russ, I doubted it, because I thought I ran the Chkdsk on that drive. Thinking back, the only drive I ran extensive tests on was one of my suspected Green drives. I suspected it, because when I disconnected it at one point, the bug magically disappeared for a time. I was really pulling my hair out. But...Problem finally solved. Things would certainly be a lot different if I had more workspace on my desk. It's rather discouraging at the moment, to have to open my case. My Dell U2410 is expected to arrive tomorrow. Thursday at the latest. I can eliminate a lot of wasted space with that badboy!
You have no idea how happy I'm gonna be tomorrow. I've been rather depressed lately. I'm thinking the monitor may just lift my spirits :) Good riddance CRT monitor!!!
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21. September 2011 @ 01:57 |
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Originally posted by omegaman7:
LOL! I didn't wanna believe it :( Two lemons in a row is fairly unbelievable when speaking V-raptor. But then, looks like it isn't too uncommon. I won't get another. But I don't think WD is gonna honor a refund at this point.
It should still be under warranty (3 year warranty iirc).
Also I've had no problems with mine *knocks on wood*
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21. September 2011 @ 02:07 |
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It's got 4yrs left according to WD online. But the information may be incorrect. In any case, they should honor a replacement.
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21. September 2011 @ 04:08 |
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21. September 2011 @ 04:48 |
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Originally posted by theonejrs:
I'm thinking about getting one of these SSDs for a boot drive. Since I use XP, 60GB is good for me. It seems Patriot has some interesting size choices, compared to other drive manufacturers. They seem to be taking an all out approach to SSDs
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820220602
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What method do they use for defrag & garbage cleaning since XP has no TRIM function? The first SSD i purchased didn't come with TRIM, and it only took a week or 2 of normal usage to slow the thing down to a crawl. it was enabled in a firmware flash later on, but it was a pain pouring over all the forums looking for answers and support.
You are going to learn a few things jumping through all those hoops to get it to run properly, just dont pull out all your hair.
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21. September 2011 @ 04:52 |
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XP also has no excessive write protection, so be careful. Systems running XP can wreck SSDs very fast by using up all their write cycles.
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21. September 2011 @ 05:29 |
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Originally posted by Deadrum33:
Originally posted by theonejrs:
I'm thinking about getting one of these SSDs for a boot drive. Since I use XP, 60GB is good for me. It seems Patriot has some interesting size choices, compared to other drive manufacturers. They seem to be taking an all out approach to SSDs
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820220602
Russ
What method do they use for defrag & garbage cleaning since XP has no TRIM function? The first SSD i purchased didn't come with TRIM, and it only took a week or 2 of normal usage to slow the thing down to a crawl. it was enabled in a firmware flash later on, but it was a pain pouring over all the forums looking for answers and support.
You are going to learn a few things jumping through all those hoops to get it to run properly, just dont pull out all your hair.
Deadrum33,
This is what it shows:
DuraWrite extends the endurance of SSDs
Intelligent Block Management and Wear Leveling
Intelligent Read Disturb Management
Intelligent "Recycling" for advance free space management (Garbage Collection)
RAISE (Redundant Array of Independent Silicon Elements)
Intelligent Data Retention optimization
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21. September 2011 @ 11:59 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
XP also has no excessive write protection, so be careful. Systems running XP can wreck SSDs very fast by using up all their write cycles.
Here's a good question. What if one were to clone their existing windows 7 installation to a new SSD. WOuld windows 7 acknowledge that it's been moved to an SSD, and take the appropriate measures to not muck up the drive?
Originally posted by some guy:
to make sure TRIM is on, launch the Command Prompt as Administrator and type this:
fsutil behavior query DisableDeleteNotify
If the outcome is 0, TRIM is enabled. If the outcome is 1, TRIM is not enabled.
Interesting. For whatever reason, TRIM is already enabled on my system. Perhaps that is just the way windows 7 is. ALREADY optimized.
My monitor is here! :D
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