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The Official PC building thread - 4th Edition
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16. February 2012 @ 16:33 |
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IntelBurnTest 20 runs at maximum stress. This is as hot as I get. Is this comparable Omega? Just curious because I wasted 2 hours doing it ;P
BTW CPU Motherboard, and Chipset are as rated by AIDA64. That's what it reckons those are and I just changed the labels on HWM to match. CPU would obviously be the global temp as read on the board and motherboard I took to be ambient but not sure. I think the thermistor is located above the chipset which would explain it.
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16. February 2012 @ 16:34 |
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Low speed graphics cards don't induce any lag with the windows experience. The problem might have been a driver bug.
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16. February 2012 @ 16:36 |
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No doubt about that I've improved many PC's keeping them active because they were too slow by updating the video card. In fact there are students at a major university that have written some software which uses the GPU for general mathematical calculations and it improves the PC performance immensely increasing the cores in the system. Now that would have limited applications but cool at any-rate.
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16. February 2012 @ 16:38 |
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I wondered about that sam. Since the driver is the same, for the whole array of cards, I assumed it fine. Perhaps not. I really should have uninstalled, and then reinstalled. But the 570 is fine :S I didn't go through the uninstall/reinstall procedure.
I could be happy with those temps Jeff :) My northbridge is the only thing making me nervous at the moment. I haven't began overclocking it yet, and it's near 50C. But I haven't pushed the fans yet either.
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16. February 2012 @ 16:42 |
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The secret is the stock AMD HSF fan attached to my CPU block pointing down at the chipset. Ask Russ about it.
AMD Phenom II X6 1100T 4GHz(20 x 200) 1.5v 3000NB 2000HT, Corsair Hydro H110 w/ 4 x 140mm 1500RPM fans Push/Pull, Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD5, 8GB(2 x 4GB) G.Skill RipJaws DDR3-1600 @ 1600MHz CL9 1.55v, Gigabyte GTX760 OC 4GB(1170/1700), Corsair 750HX
Detailed PC Specs: http://my.afterdawn.com/estuansis/blog_entry.cfm/11388
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16. February 2012 @ 16:42 |
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I used to do that. It's a noisy bugger! Perhaps I can try it again, and lower its rpms.
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16. February 2012 @ 16:46 |
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You maybe got the wrong fan. There is a newer one, though while about 5000RPMs 24/7, barely makes a peep. Really impressive fan. Also pushes gale force winds lol.
AMD Phenom II X6 1100T 4GHz(20 x 200) 1.5v 3000NB 2000HT, Corsair Hydro H110 w/ 4 x 140mm 1500RPM fans Push/Pull, Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD5, 8GB(2 x 4GB) G.Skill RipJaws DDR3-1600 @ 1600MHz CL9 1.55v, Gigabyte GTX760 OC 4GB(1170/1700), Corsair 750HX
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16. February 2012 @ 16:49 |
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Nice! I might have to acquire that little gem :)
This is interesting. Photoshop says the 570 has SSE2. That's a CPU instruction! The 8600Gt did not have that! Don't know about the 260.
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16. February 2012 @ 16:53 |
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Also remember my normal operating temps rarely near 50*C even when gaming. A long sessions of playing intensive games sees about 48*C max on the CPU and mid 40s on the chipset.
AMD Phenom II X6 1100T 4GHz(20 x 200) 1.5v 3000NB 2000HT, Corsair Hydro H110 w/ 4 x 140mm 1500RPM fans Push/Pull, Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD5, 8GB(2 x 4GB) G.Skill RipJaws DDR3-1600 @ 1600MHz CL9 1.55v, Gigabyte GTX760 OC 4GB(1170/1700), Corsair 750HX
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16. February 2012 @ 16:55 |
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I worry about max temps, because X264 encoding pushes her to the limit ;) Overclocks have to be perfect (or real close), and fans/cooling better be good.
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16. February 2012 @ 17:01 |
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Originally posted by Estuansis:
You maybe got the wrong fan. There is a newer one, though while about 5000RPMs 24/7, barely makes a peep. Really impressive fan. Also pushes gale force winds lol.
Isn't that a 40mm chipset fan you're using, not the AMD stock cooler one? Because no 5000rpm CPU heatsink cooler 'barely makes a peep'. Even at 2000rpm those size fans can get pretty frustrating. 5000? ugh, I couldn't stand it.
Encoding tests that I ran (95 mins heavy load) pushed my CPU to about 59-60C with the case exhaust fans on high. I don't consider that too bad on air with a quiet (120mm 1500rpm) CPU cooler, and a considerable overvolt and overclock (2.66->4.12Ghz, 1.15V->1.35V).
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16. February 2012 @ 17:23 |
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Originally posted by omegaman7:
I wondered about that sam. Since the driver is the same, for the whole array of cards, I assumed it fine. Perhaps not. I really should have uninstalled, and then reinstalled. But the 570 is fine :S I didn't go through the uninstall/reinstall procedure.
I could be happy with those temps Jeff :) My northbridge is the only thing making me nervous at the moment. I haven't began overclocking it yet, and it's near 50C. But I haven't pushed the fans yet either.
If you can process graphics faster you will see increased performance, it has nothing to do with drivers! If we were working in monochrome DOS at a CLI prompt environment then maybe it wouldn't make as much difference but in an intensive GUI world it does!!
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16. February 2012 @ 17:25 |
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Only if the graphics are being processed slowly enough to be of concern. I never saw any issues with an X1600 Pro running windows 7. An 8600GT is faster than that.
Make the CPU and disk fast enough, and the difference in the windows environment (ignoring video playback and games) is indistinguishable, even with an ancient card. As long as it can run aero, it's good enough. How do you think PCs with integrated graphics work?
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16. February 2012 @ 17:29 |
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I don't get it myself. It probably was just a driver issue of some sort. Residual 260 settings? Perhaps windows 7 simply thought the 8600 was more than it actually was. I'll never know. All I know is, the 570 kicked it in the butt. Big time! GTA IV is running quite nicely. Better than the 260 ever did. Though the 260 was very respectable :p
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16. February 2012 @ 17:42 |
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Well it should, the GTX570 is twice as powerful as the GTX260 :P
I would say though, just in case you're tempted, leave alone from overclocking the GTX570, especially if it's a reference design. Like the GTX460, the 570 is built to borderline tolerance, and even minor overclocks/modifications lead to premature failure.
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16. February 2012 @ 17:46 |
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LOL, I have zero interest in overclocking a GPU. The returns are probably minimal anyhow. The GPU's run pretty warm, so increasing the clock would increase the temps. Not into it ;) By reference, do you mean fan in the center-ish? That's where it is...
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16. February 2012 @ 17:51 |
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This layout, specifically:
http://images.bit-tech.net/content_imag...ew/GTX570-7.jpg
If it's anything different, it's non-reference, which means the quality of manufacture of the card is down to the brand on the box, rather than nvidia themselves. Often a blessing with nvidia, but something to be avoided with AMD.
nvidia generally produce very poor quality hardware, but have some good partner brands that produce improved designs with longer lifespans. With AMD, the reference hardware is usually quite good, but almost all the partner brands are bad, and produce much worse quality cards than the reference designs.
From a neutral perspective, I somewhat prefer the AMD approach here, as with AMD you have a good GPU and just have to carefully pick and choose which brand of card you get, whereas with nvidia even with a quality non-reference card you still have the manufacturing of the GPU itself to contend with.
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16. February 2012 @ 17:54 |
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Ahh, my 260 looked like that. Well, I'm not a heavy gamer, as you've likely surmised. So it won't be stressed like the typical gamer would. Plus I'm more lax about fan speeds. I prefer cooler temps. If cooler temps = longevity, I'm all for it ;)
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16. February 2012 @ 18:10 |
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Proper GPU-accelerated computing actually stresses GPUs far more than games do.
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16. February 2012 @ 18:13 |
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Mmm, I see. Well, I like to run the fan beyond the typical 40% :p It's at 50 right now, and I can barely hear it.
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16. February 2012 @ 18:54 |
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Isn't that a 40mm chipset fan you're using, not the AMD stock cooler one? Because no 5000rpm CPU heatsink cooler 'barely makes a peep'. Even at 2000rpm those size fans can get pretty frustrating. 5000? ugh, I couldn't stand it.
It certainly is not. It's a Phenom II/late A64 X2 era non-heatpipe cooler.
http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/public...1brmcy0oLS17Tz5
Believe mine came with my 5000+ or 7750. It was a really late-in-the-life-cycle design. Yes it does create noticeable noise. But believe me when I tell you my ears are extremely sensitive and well accustomed to the noises of this machine. It barely rates at audible above the other fans in my rig, which make a reasonably subdued amount of noise. There is no bearing noise AFAIK, only a soft "woosh". All at 5k RPM
Also Omega keep in mind that the above screenshot is the max temps this PC reaches barring the video cards. I cannot make it go hotter with any other workload. Folding does not reach those temps(again, barring the video cards which folding thrashes) and these PCs fold 12+ hours a day. Having very reliable cooling is also a priority for me. Luckily XFX have supplied me with super overkill video cooling(and the 8800GTS does not fold, ever) :P
AMD Phenom II X6 1100T 4GHz(20 x 200) 1.5v 3000NB 2000HT, Corsair Hydro H110 w/ 4 x 140mm 1500RPM fans Push/Pull, Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD5, 8GB(2 x 4GB) G.Skill RipJaws DDR3-1600 @ 1600MHz CL9 1.55v, Gigabyte GTX760 OC 4GB(1170/1700), Corsair 750HX
Detailed PC Specs: http://my.afterdawn.com/estuansis/blog_entry.cfm/11388
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17. February 2012 @ 02:26 |
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Looks identical to the akasa 60mm 5000rpm cooler I had on my XP 3000+ when I first bought the machine:
Same number of fan blades and everything. That was a difficult amount of noise to mask.
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17. February 2012 @ 10:39 |
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I'm telling you it's really reasonable, and much more quiet than I thought it would be. It surprised me as I've used AMD stock coolers before but never bothered to try this one until I pulled it off the sink. It's something to do with the age of the unit and the OEM for the fan. Also this was definitely from the lower end cooler. IIRC it was with the Kuma 7750. Russ had the same CPU so it would explain the identical, quiet fans. Again, powerful as well.
AMD Phenom II X6 1100T 4GHz(20 x 200) 1.5v 3000NB 2000HT, Corsair Hydro H110 w/ 4 x 140mm 1500RPM fans Push/Pull, Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD5, 8GB(2 x 4GB) G.Skill RipJaws DDR3-1600 @ 1600MHz CL9 1.55v, Gigabyte GTX760 OC 4GB(1170/1700), Corsair 750HX
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17. February 2012 @ 11:21 |
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hows it going everyone? long time no chat...
so im about to do a nice high end build,yes for myself.
no its not gonna be a AMD rig like you all have. im staying with intel.
im getting the I7 2700K cpu. but im having a issue with what mobo to get. the gigabyte board i wanted is no longer being offered at newegg.(GIGABYTE GA-Z68X-UD3P) anyone have any input on which i should look at? and a cooler for the CPU?
ssd or hdd? for OS only that is.
GPU? im wanting a good card that i can plug my flat screen tv into and watch movies right from my rig.HDMI a must. ati,nvidia, it dont matter to me. as you all know i dont game,other than some COD now and then. but i wouldnt mind a card that i know can handle the games.
oh yea. must have 6-8 sata plugins...lol you know how i am about odd's
any input on any part of this build is appreciated.
this is kinda what im looking at right now.
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17. February 2012 @ 14:49 |
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Originally posted by omegaman7:
I used to do that. It's a noisy bugger! Perhaps I can try it again, and lower its rpms.
Oman7,
I'm pretty sure the fan I'm using is 70mm 3200 rpm. It blows a veritable storm across the NB heatsink and the back side of the video card, and is super quiet out in the open like that. It's from a stock AMD 7750x2 simple cooler.
Russ
GigaByte 990FXA-UD5 - AMD FX-8320 @4.0GHz @1.312v - Corsair H-60 liquid CPU Cooler - 4x4 GB GSkill RipJaws DDR3/1866 Cas8, 8-9-9-24 - Corsair 400-R Case - OCZ FATAL1TY 550 watt Modular PSU - Intel 330 120GB SATA III SSD - WD Black 500GB SATA III - WD black 1 TB Sata III - WD Black 500GB SATA II - 2 Asus DRW-24B1ST DVD-Burner - Sony 420W 5.1 PL-II Suround Sound - GigaByte GTX550/1GB 970 Mhz Video - Asus VE247H 23.6" HDMI 1080p Monitor
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