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2. March 2014 @ 10:25 |
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This board will almost do it, but it eventually drops SATA ports. I agree that in the long run, it isn't stable at all and causes more issues than it's worth. The highest I can get stable is 243, and that's pushing a little.
In fact, I have dropped it back to stock and gone back to a multiplier OC. Better results so far...
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2. March 2014 @ 18:05 |
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That sounds more like it. Are you dropping the FSB voltage to run it at 243?
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3. March 2014 @ 03:08 |
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Nope it stays stock. If I drop it at all, it doesn't go past 220-230. I really don't wanna raise it.
Multi OC generally works better and puts less stress on everything except the multiplier. I read on some other forums that a few Thubans would start to degrade after a while at 1.525v and others would go all the way to 1.575v without any long term issues. I'm playing safe and keeping mine at 1.5v. I don't know when I want to upgrade, and I'd rather not kill such a nice chip. It will likely replace my Q6600 at some point.
At the settings you can currently see in my signature, it runs beautifully. It needs 1.525v to be absolutely 12+ hours Prime stable but will do 6-8 hours at 1.5v and has never given me a single hiccup in any game or program. Upping from 2600 to 2800, then finally 3000MHz on the NB has given me some excellent gains. After 2800 you get diminishing returns, but 3000MHz was within reach and still showed improvements.
AMD Phenom II X6 1100T 4GHz(20 x 200) 1.5v 3000NB 2000HT, Corsair Hydro H110 w/ 4 x 140mm 1500RPM fans Push/Pull, Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD5, 8GB(2 x 4GB) G.Skill RipJaws DDR3-1600 @ 1600MHz CL9 1.55v, Gigabyte GTX760 OC 4GB(1170/1700), Corsair 750HX
Detailed PC Specs: http://my.afterdawn.com/estuansis/blog_entry.cfm/11388
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3. March 2014 @ 10:33 |
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You can raise it a little without problems but you'll generate more heat so it is a balancing act of course. Your voltage limits seem to be pretty good so I wouldn't worry to much unless the system isn't stable at those elevated settings, then things can go south if you are not careful.
Also Prime will not guarantee stability I can't tell you how many times I've thought I was stable after using Prime just to find certain programs crashing my system.
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3. March 2014 @ 11:21 |
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An X264 encode, is where my stability test comes in :p
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3. March 2014 @ 11:26 |
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That is a good test but simple games like Fairway Solitaire, I think that is the one I use that I got from Reflexive, also work well and are very quick tests.
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3. March 2014 @ 17:02 |
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You can raise it a little without problems but you'll generate more heat so it is a balancing act of course. Your voltage limits seem to be pretty good so I wouldn't worry to much unless the system isn't stable at those elevated settings, then things can go south if you are not careful.
Thus my repeated upgrades to cooling. No guarantee, as anything can go south when OCing, but still a little extra insurance. Heat has so far been a non-issue since I moved to the UD5 board with the more capable cooler. *knock on wood*
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Also Prime will not guarantee stability I can't tell you how many times I've thought I was stable after using Prime just to find certain programs crashing my system.
Yeah no kidding. I haven't found a perfect stability test yet. Prime can only tell you so much, and IBT is hilariously unrealistic. I use Prime95 as a guidline, and my long-term test is practical usage. If it never gives me issues during operation, I'd call that stable. A few days of folding/SETI is also usually an effective gauge.
AMD Phenom II X6 1100T 4GHz(20 x 200) 1.5v 3000NB 2000HT, Corsair Hydro H110 w/ 4 x 140mm 1500RPM fans Push/Pull, Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD5, 8GB(2 x 4GB) G.Skill RipJaws DDR3-1600 @ 1600MHz CL9 1.55v, Gigabyte GTX760 OC 4GB(1170/1700), Corsair 750HX
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3. March 2014 @ 17:30 |
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I would think if it makes it through SETI all would be good, that is some serious data crunching, unlike Prime95.
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3. March 2014 @ 21:48 |
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It's done 24+ hours of SETI unattended at this configuration. The biggest difference between something real-world and something like Prime95 is how they use memory. Prime puts more stress on the memory in certain ways than SETI or Folding@Home do, so SETI and Folding are much better real-world stability tests, especially for my gaming oriented machine. Gaming doesn't put extremely heavy load on the memory either, and doesn't produce near as much stress as SETI OR Prime95.
Also doesn't hurt that this cooler is comically overpowered...
AMD Phenom II X6 1100T 4GHz(20 x 200) 1.5v 3000NB 2000HT, Corsair Hydro H110 w/ 4 x 140mm 1500RPM fans Push/Pull, Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD5, 8GB(2 x 4GB) G.Skill RipJaws DDR3-1600 @ 1600MHz CL9 1.55v, Gigabyte GTX760 OC 4GB(1170/1700), Corsair 750HX
Detailed PC Specs: http://my.afterdawn.com/estuansis/blog_entry.cfm/11388
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3. March 2014 @ 21:57 |
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comically overpowered like you?
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3. March 2014 @ 21:58 |
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Absolutely ;P
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3. March 2014 @ 22:36 |
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thought so.
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6. March 2014 @ 07:14 |
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Galaxy S2 4G Touch continues to impress as a dedicated portable computer sans phone fucntionality. Also, it runs Windows XP quite well, except only generic built-in Nvidia video drivers. Enough where it's not choppy, but not enough to render video or boot 3D games. Runs direct draw quite well though. Had Diablo II booted and playing smoothly, though not very well given the controls available. Curiously, the ethernet drivers are available and can be sideloaded during the OS install. Still a useless interface without some sort of onscreen trackpad though for obvious reasons. Will be giving a format of Windows 7 a try and see how it does.
Installing desktop OS's works fine as long as you fiddle with them enough. Biggest technical concern they create is battery life. They weren't written very efficiently and sit there draining the battery at a hilarious rate just idling. In contrast, I can flash my backed up Android OS Ice Cream Sandwich image, and get well over a day of hardcore usage out of it. 720P movies, 3D and 2D video games, emulating Gameboy/GBA to play Pokemon(which it does quite a lot in lieu of a dead cartridge battery on my original), emulating PS1/N64 at full speed to play 3D games, reading ebooks, music, youtube, you name it. Turning off the cellphone radio in the unit, increases its battery life and performance greatly. Easily triple the standby time, and almost 50% more usage time on a single charge. Accomplished by an app that enables Airplane Mode but leaves the Wi-Fi radio active. Completely shuts off the cell service radio, which uses more battery than normal constantly searching for a nonexistent signal.
Really interesting and highly configurable machines! These are NOT the proprietary consumer electronics I grew up with. I'm doing some research into the possibility of loading a copy of Windows 8 Phone onto it, if the hardware can be supported. Would be an interesting experiment.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qo0gCljjEL4
I think full-monty Windows 8 would be too much for my device, small screen and all. Windows 8 Phone would be perfectly suited though, and can run lots of desktop software with some hacking and fiddling.
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My recent cooling upgrades on the main rig seem to have achieved the positive pressure I was looking for. Drastically more powerful fans did the trick. Currently has a fraction the dust build-up it did before. Really noticeable and needs much less cleaning. I smoke next to this PC a couple hours a day. Window open, but still it does create a cleaning nightmare, as unless I'm keeping an eye on it, the PC just sucks up every bit of smoke through the side intake. That doesn't happen anymore due to the positive pressure, so hopefully this change will help cut down on the sticky tar residue stuff develops well. Not a proud habit :(
Only thing in the PC that showed even a minor puff of dust when blasted was the radiator. All radiators are dust magnets so not surprising... just have to be detailed when blowing it out to make sure it doesn't start building up.
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13. March 2014 @ 16:34 |
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hey guys throw me some ideas out there on a new PC Monitors my Samsung 2493 HM is about ready to bit the dust, considering a 27" want to keep the res high ,this one is 1920x1200, thanks, looks like Asus or Samsung are the way to go
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13. March 2014 @ 16:50 |
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why do you think it is about ready to bit the dust?
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13. March 2014 @ 16:57 |
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Dell U2412M any good?
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13. March 2014 @ 17:14 |
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Antec 1200 Full-Tower Case/Thermaltake 750-Watt PS/ASUS SABERTOOTH Z77 Mobo/Western Digital Black WD500 500GB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache/NVIDIA GeForce 8800GTX 384-bit GDDR3 PCI Express Video Card/CORSAIR DOMINATOR PLATINUM 16GB DDR3 /Intel Core i7-3770K Ivy Bridge 3.5GHz (3.9GHz Turbo)/CORSAIR Hydro High Performance Liquid CPU Cooler/3-Asus DRW-24B1ST Sata Drives/Samsung 2493HM 24" LCD Monitior 1920x1200 resolution,5ms respone time/OS Windows 10 Pro SP1 64-bit
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13. March 2014 @ 18:25 |
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13. March 2014 @ 20:59 |
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Antec 1200 Full-Tower Case/Thermaltake 750-Watt PS/ASUS SABERTOOTH Z77 Mobo/Western Digital Black WD500 500GB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache/NVIDIA GeForce 8800GTX 384-bit GDDR3 PCI Express Video Card/CORSAIR DOMINATOR PLATINUM 16GB DDR3 /Intel Core i7-3770K Ivy Bridge 3.5GHz (3.9GHz Turbo)/CORSAIR Hydro High Performance Liquid CPU Cooler/3-Asus DRW-24B1ST Sata Drives/Samsung 2493HM 24" LCD Monitior 1920x1200 resolution,5ms respone time/OS Windows 10 Pro SP1 64-bit
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13. March 2014 @ 22:29 |
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I have the Auria and it is great the only bad review that is valid is the glossy screen can be bad for glare if you are facing a window but for myself that isn't an issue. A personally won't buy a 27" monitor that is only 1080, for a 24" fine.
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13. March 2014 @ 22:47 |
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Indeed. I go any larger, I'll prefer a larger resolution as well. 24" 1200P is fine. But 27" borders on the necessity for larger resolution, in my opinion. At least on my desktop :p
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14. March 2014 @ 07:44 |
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24" 1080p is already quite low - the 'proper' resolution at that size would be 1920x1200. At 27" 1920x1200 is definitely on the low side, 1080p is basically HDTV-style pixel density, and not something I'd want to work close to.
On the other hand, 2560x1440 27" displays are a higher pixel density and very nice to work with, well worth the extra cost.
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14. March 2014 @ 08:34 |
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Good info guys yeah I think I will stick with the higher res on the 27" and go with the Asus or Auria if I can find one the Asus I can for sure,if i get an different video card with HDMI will there be a quality difference between that and a DVI connection?
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15. March 2014 @ 06:52 |
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It would be nice if 16x10 monitors (1920x1200) were more common but unfortunately they are less and less as the smaller formats 16x9's (1920x1080) are more prevalent. In a 27" at 2560x1440 the larger 16x10 format would be 2560x1600.
ZoSoIV, I think at the moment MicroCenter is the only place you can get the AURIA unfortunately but that may have changed recently. I most definitely will be getting another one as I'm going to run DUAL screen 27's for my office CAD/ADOBE machine.
HDMI is the lowest resolution transfer as DVI's and DisplayPort's are the higher resolutions output by video cards. If you go to NewEgg and checkout the spec's you'll see what I'm talking about.
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