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The Official PC building thread - 4th Edition
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eskoog
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2. February 2011 @ 00:45 |
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Originally posted by omegaman7:
Hope you don't mean me. I know damn little about PCB's and components therein. I'm simply intrigued enough to check it out. Unlike the general population ;)
Hi Omegaman7,
My apologies I neglected replying to Russ, since you do show initiative to attempt repairs w/o an electronics background, here?s a website you should visit. Since you can accomplish a lot in electronics with just a bit of guidance, here you will be given basic theory which will make your efforts considerably more productive. Since I taught electronic theory for 20 years to many FAA administrative folks who were looking to get out of dead end low pay jobs, I'm always willing to assist a new comer to the exciting field of electronics. So get started with this two links which will put you ahead of most PC users. Warning: be careful not to tell many folks you dabble in electronics, least you?ll become their technical service representive! BTW you?ll never have time to get bored, because in electronics the only constant is change, so you?ll have to read a lot to keep up. Like an old sergeant told a new Radar Repairman in 1965, ?airmen just remember no matter how complicated a human designed it and all we have to do is fix it?. Who thought, I just wanted a glass of water not the whole darn fire hydrant. Ed
http://www.repairfaq.org/
http://www.repairfaq.org/REPAIR/F_Repair.html
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2. February 2011 @ 01:16 |
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Thanks man. I'll definitely hold on to that site! :D
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2. February 2011 @ 01:41 |
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Originally posted by Estuansis:
For the record Russ me and mine have had good luck with small rubber bands.
The best thing I've found to date or the elastics for Dental Braces. it's just getting the right length. Then again, the drive I fixed will never need another belt again! LOL!!
Russ
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2. February 2011 @ 02:34 |
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I swear this year is not going well for me. I won't go too in depth, but I'm gonna have to buy the board from somewhere else now. The person I bought from on ebay, backordered :(
Perhaps it isn't meant to be.
They're still out of stock on newegg russ :( I may have missed my shot!
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128394
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eskoog
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2. February 2011 @ 04:32 |
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Originally posted by ddp:
eskoog, should replace cap with same microfard rating but can up the voltage rating on that cap so that your cap can be 2200uf 16v instead of 2200uf 10v but not 3300uf 16v.
ddp,
Your precisely exact, recall all electrolytic (especially cannibalized ones) lose capacitance as they age, that's why motherboard OEM's make such a big deal about their capacitors. Also consider you neglected the component tolerance which was 10%. Very few SMPS'a (power supplies) are precise in component selection as long the values EXCEED the MSR (minimum size required) and don't exceed 150 to 200% of design parameters and fit. Since 3300 vs 2200 is within this tolerance, my confidence level in component selection was 100%. Recall I'm 70 miles away from a parts house. Obviously if I had and exact "new" replacement cap of the same mfd and higher voltage I would have used it. If you have field experience you should be well aware ET's have make educated choices. Sure some ET's use the excuse of not having an exact replacement, fearful and uncertain of their skills see next paragraph. The TV is working just fine and will likely end up being recycled years from now.
Here a real example: your the only ET on duty at the DFW Colleyville Airport Surveillance Radar(ASR) B-channel just failed at 1800 UTC 9am local. A-channel has been down awaiting a modulator high voltage transformer which is not on the site spares list. DFW TRACON has called and needs your radar operational ASAP due to weather and the lunch hour push when all 4 runways will be queued with heavy Friday in-bound and out-bound traffic. You find the 35Kv tri-axial cable connecting the modulator to the transmitter cabinet has developed a short where in enters the transmitter cabinet unfortunately no one has a replacement which must be fabricated by Texas Instruments. You know this cable must be precise due the radars pulse repetition interval (PRF). You know swapping the A channel cable will will take 4 hours for removal and install. The cable is 50' to accommodate various installations. You decide to remove the 6" of shorted cable and field repair the cable. Which takes a hour then 30 minute verifying key parameters which are well within specs. You notified the TRACON radar is operation and certifiable but has a field repaired component which could be considered an illegal modification. The TRACON manager controllers are shorthanded this Friday since Monday is a legal holiday. You call the maintenance supervisor and his reply; if the radar is certifiable it's your decision. The TRACON calls again pleading for radar coverage. You know if there is an accident you will be testifying on the witness stand, and could lose your job and career. What would you do? To be continued.
During my 50 years of component level repair for the USAF, Motorola, Burroughs, FAA and discussions with EE's and college professors confirmed these design margins. Consider desktop PC aren't required to meet the strict specification of airborne/space electronics where mil-spec are required. I'm not inferring PC chipset/processors and most consumer electronics are at the bottom of the food chain, yet they aren't commercial level either, check prices. With Newegg offering a 600w p/s for $15 on daily special just how much quality could the components be? The old saying applies: design to 0.0001, measure to 0.001 with a micrometer, mark with a tape measure, and cut it with an axe. ED
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2. February 2011 @ 13:38 |
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I just bought yet another one off ebay(GA-MA785GM-US2H). We'll see if this one pans out LOL! Yes, I'm stubborn. And besides, this really is the best option at the moment for upgradeability, longevity(touch wood), and compatibility. By upgrade I mean AM3 processors. I'm aware that the badboy Bulldozer will not be compatible. I already have all other hardware for this build :D I'm making nearly 50$ on the deal :p
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2. February 2011 @ 14:24 |
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Originally posted by omegaman7:
I just bought yet another one off ebay(GA-MA785GM-US2H). We'll see if this one pans out LOL! Yes, I'm stubborn. And besides, this really is the best option at the moment for upgradeability, longevity(touch wood), and compatibility. By upgrade I mean AM3 processors. I'm aware that the badboy Bulldozer will not be compatible. I already have all other hardware for this build :D I'm making nearly 50$ on the deal :p
Oman7,
I don't see Socket AM3 vanishing very quickly, as there's an impressive lineup of CPUs for them. I think the whole AM3 lineup will be around for at least another 3 years.
Russ
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3. February 2011 @ 17:42 |
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Originally posted by theonejrs:
Originally posted by omegaman7:
I just bought yet another one off ebay(GA-MA785GM-US2H). We'll see if this one pans out LOL! Yes, I'm stubborn. And besides, this really is the best option at the moment for upgradeability, longevity(touch wood), and compatibility. By upgrade I mean AM3 processors. I'm aware that the badboy Bulldozer will not be compatible. I already have all other hardware for this build :D I'm making nearly 50$ on the deal :p
Oman7,
I don't see Socket AM3 vanishing very quickly, as there's an impressive lineup of CPUs for them. I think the whole AM3 lineup will be around for at least another 3 years.
Russ
Agreed. There's quite the assortment of processors for am3 ;)
Creaky, guess what came yesterday! I'm happier than a fly in doo doo LOL! Thanks once again.
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3. February 2011 @ 20:11 |
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Those look pretty good, how much'd they set you back? I want some :P
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4. February 2011 @ 00:26 |
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I paid 14.47USD for the 3 of them. Meritline.com. It was a deal at the time.
Looks like they're still going for that price :D
http://www.meritline.com/hdd-pp-storage-case-smoke-820---p-36156.aspx
They ship from singapore. You'll probably get them sooner than I did, but who knows. It took over 10 days. So be sure and factor that. But for that price, I really can't complain ;)
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4. February 2011 @ 02:14 |
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They're usually about £4.50 on eBay here Sam, cheaper obviously from Hong Kong/China. They're great, just watch out for the (far too) flimsy plastic 'hinge'
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4. February 2011 @ 02:23 |
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These hinges seem ok. Not sure how long they'll last though :S I guess time will tell :p
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4. February 2011 @ 04:15 |
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i have a couple HDD's floating around. That would be useful. Got links, or what to search reaky?
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5. February 2011 @ 13:56 |
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to ascend above the horizon, as a heavenly body...
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5. February 2011 @ 16:02 |
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5. February 2011 @ 17:20 |
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I've always trusted kingston. Never have used A-Data. But knowing Russ's good fortune with them, i'll likely give them a shot one day.
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6. February 2011 @ 06:06 |
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I've had really good luck with Mushkin(my brand of choice) but they're a bit more expensive than the usual brands. AFAIK they're using better quality components though. Their kits always tend to have tighter timings. My last two kits were 2 x 1GB and 2 x 2GB DDR2-800 at CL4-4-3-10 and 4-4-4-12 respectively. Was very happy with both kits.
Also had good luck with OCZ, Geil, G.Skill and Corsair. Though some are wary of OCZ lately. As far as I know most memory is the same, outside of specifically cherry-picked kits like my Mushkin XPs, or Russ' Corsair Dominators. As long as it works and is well priced, you're fine.
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8. February 2011 @ 06:32 |
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GigaByte 990FXA-UD5 - AMD FX-8320 @4.0GHz @1.312v - Corsair H-60 liquid CPU Cooler - 4x4 GB GSkill RipJaws DDR3/1866 Cas8, 8-9-9-24 - Corsair 400-R Case - OCZ FATAL1TY 550 watt Modular PSU - Intel 330 120GB SATA III SSD - WD Black 500GB SATA III - WD black 1 TB Sata III - WD Black 500GB SATA II - 2 Asus DRW-24B1ST DVD-Burner - Sony 420W 5.1 PL-II Suround Sound - GigaByte GTX550/1GB 970 Mhz Video - Asus VE247H 23.6" HDMI 1080p Monitor
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8. February 2011 @ 09:17 |
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The M59's a controversially styled case, but that's quite a nice discount. I'm still a bit wary of OCZ PSUs though.
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8. February 2011 @ 12:55 |
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That is a unique looking case. Not a bad deal for the combo. Unfortunately, the look of a computer is important to a lot of people. I usually leave that up to them. Makes me laugh when I show some people choices of cases, and they say which one is faster? ROFL!
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8. February 2011 @ 19:07 |
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Originally posted by theonejrs:
Originally posted by omegaman7:
That is a unique looking case. Not a bad deal for the combo. Unfortunately, the look of a computer is important to a lot of people. I usually leave that up to them. Makes me laugh when I show some people choices of cases, and they say which one is faster? ROFL!
Oman7,
That's a simple answer! The ones with wheels, of Course! :)
I like the case, myself!
Russ
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8. February 2011 @ 22:30 |
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russ, why do you have 3 posts in a row?
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8. February 2011 @ 23:21 |
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Originally posted by ddp:
russ, why do you have 3 posts in a row?
I have absolutely no idea! I Edited the first one because I sent it to Sam by mistake, instead of Oman7. I just removed the other two!
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ddp
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8. February 2011 @ 23:23 |
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you just edited them not removed them wereas i removed them.
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