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The Official PC building thread - 4th Edition
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7. May 2011 @ 10:04 |
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Oops i wasn't clear, we do have Windows servers but most servers are linux, saying that my 32/64-bit answer is the same regardless of linux or Windows. And talking of which i should really go and build that new Dell Dual Core, it's going to be another Puppy linux machine.
For rebuilds (and new builds) of peoples' desktop/laptops at work we always use 32-bit Windows (XP or 7 depending on age of machine/availability of drivers obviously), only 64-bit if someone specifically asks, but that would only be someone's home machine really.
We just don't often have a need for machines with more than 2GB of RAM, other than some linux servers.
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7. May 2011 @ 10:33 |
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I personally think that 32 bit should have dies with windows 7 imo.
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7. May 2011 @ 10:38 |
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Nah, at home it's still going strong but more importantly, at work, we support many branches, some large, some small, (some foreign, not that that has any bearing), and quite frankly 32-bit is still more than adequate, in fact our head office's main File/Print server is only 32-bit along with some other heavily-loaded servers. Some branches do have 64-bit servers though, our head office we mix and match as we see fit.
It was only really in Enterprise Unix where 64-bit was a necessity in my last job, due to the main servers having silly amounts of CPUs and RAM :). As i've said before, 64-bit to me is 'old hat' i was using it by default back since about 11 years ago, these days i just pick what's suitable for what machine and purpose.
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7. May 2011 @ 12:34 |
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Originally posted by creaky:
My boss and i still stick to one principle - if a server has less than 4GB of RAM it gets built as 32-bit, only if more than 4GB is needed would be bother with 64-bit. Some habits die hard.
But as always, each to their own, for us it's just habit :
Not looking forward can cost you. So now you decide that you need more ram instead of just adding it you have to rebuild the server! Not the smartest move I'd say, better to be safe than sorry...
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7. May 2011 @ 12:59 |
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..not at all, we don't use overly expensive servers, some are even bought second-hand. We most certainly do look forward, it's just that i'm no longer working in a company where they buy million pound servers, as we grow we can replace as necessary, slightly more modestly than a million pounds.
Everything gets reused, servers, components, desktops/laptops, even hard drives, we're very resourceful, much less wasteful (hardly at all in fact) than most other companies. We are a big company, just not huge.
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7. May 2011 @ 14:44 |
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I did notice the timings of the Cas 8 Ram. The difference between CL 8 and 9 isn't big, and I could probably change the timings easily enough. And for the record, Windows 7 64bit is my flavor of choice at the moment. I have not had one program incompatibility, or security issue?
So you're 99% sure I can transform the dual core into a quad eh? And it would have more potential than the Propus. Why in the world is it being sold cheaper then LOL!
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7. May 2011 @ 14:51 |
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Saving $10 bucks wouldn't be worth the gamble to me so I wouldn't suggest it even though Russ thinks it's the way to go. But two 4GB sticks is definately what you should do, that way you can go another 8GB down the road maxing out the board at that point.
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7. May 2011 @ 16:51 |
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Agreed :) I really don't want to take the chance, that a wanna be quad core could have issues, or simply only works as intended. Besides, the Propus is plug and play :p Though I'll probably be playing with Ram timings anyway.
Any thoughts on a good cheap NAS enclosure? From what I'm seeing at the moment, I'm better off purchasing a built one. If I build one from scratch I'd save little to no money :(
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7. May 2011 @ 17:20 |
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Originally posted by omegaman7:
Agreed :) I really don't want to take the chance, that a wanna be quad core could have issues, or simply only works as intended. Besides, the Propus is plug and play :p Though I'll probably be playing with Ram timings anyway.
Any thoughts on a good cheap NAS enclosure? From what I'm seeing at the moment, I'm better off purchasing a built one. If I build one from scratch I'd save little to no money :(
Unfortunately there is no such beast. I've played with most of the cheap contollers and even the cheapy (low end) Netgears aren't too great either. If you want something nice it will cost you, so I don't really have any suggestions to cheap, sorry.... :P
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7. May 2011 @ 17:27 |
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I figured as much. I've thought about purchasing WD enclosures from Ebay. That might be the route I take. Unfortunately, Mothers day is tomorrow. I shouldn't have procrastinated this :p
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7. May 2011 @ 17:42 |
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7. May 2011 @ 21:03 |
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Originally posted by Mr-Movies:
Saving $10 bucks wouldn't be worth the gamble to me so I wouldn't suggest it even though Russ thinks it's the way to go. But two 4GB sticks is definately what you should do, that way you can go another 8GB down the road maxing out the board at that point.
Steve,
I'm basing what I said on my own experience with owning an Athlon IIx4 630 Propus and just having built a Phenom IIx2 555BE that I easily unlocked the cores on. Even as a Dual core, the 555BE is the faster chip because of the much larger cache. Less MIPS but much faster thruput, so it takes much less time to accomplish tasks.
I really don't see it as being any risk at all, because it's not going to be overclocked. If you should get one with a weak core, you can trim that by using the individual core settings and drop the weak core down a little by using the Minus (-) setting.
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7. May 2011 @ 21:14 |
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You're talking about the 630, I'm purchasing the 640. Probably not much difference, but I can't help but feel if I purchase the 555BE, I'm getting him a lesser chip, and mickey mousing it to save a penny. I realize unlocked, the 555BE should be a better chip, but what if I do get the gimp/lemon? It'd either delay his build, or he'd have a lesser performer. My mothers computer has the 620 Propus. It seems agreeable. But I haven't ran any strenuous processes on it either :p
Ha ha! Looks like I save 15$ with a promo code on that Ram too :p
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7. May 2011 @ 21:44 |
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Originally posted by omegaman7:
I did notice the timings of the Cas 8 Ram. The difference between CL 8 and 9 isn't big, and I could probably change the timings easily enough. And for the record, Windows 7 64bit is my flavor of choice at the moment. I have not had one program incompatibility, or security issue?
So you're 99% sure I can transform the dual core into a quad eh? And it would have more potential than the Propus. Why in the world is it being sold cheaper then LOL!
Oman7,
The difference between the Cas 8 and Cas 9 is enough to easily be seen. I know because I tried both and then returned the Cas 9 Ripjaws. The build turned out to be the perfect combination of components, and runs like a well "oiled" machine! LOL!!
As far as Win7 64 bit goes, I'm just repeating what I've read on M$ own blog and a few other places. 128 updates for their regular Thursday updates, with most of them for previously unknown security issues is a bit frightening to me.
As far as the 555BE, and why it is cheaper is because production run has been halted on the Phenom IIx2s. It's no longer practical to have to cripple perfectly good Quad cores to make them, which is the reason I'm 99.9% sure that you will get a Quad core out of one. With any of the Propus chips, the limiting factor is the 4x512 L2 cache combined with the lack of any L3 cache. Even as a Dual core the 555BE is the faster chip. Noticeably faster! The likelihood of not getting at least a triple core out of it is almost non-existent! My customer is thrilled beyond words with it!
Russ
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7. May 2011 @ 21:54 |
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Well, I see your point. I truly do. I updated my last post by the way.
This build is not mine. If it were, i'd likely buy the dual core phenom. But since I'll only have it for a day, that just isn't enough time to do testing on it. And if it were to turn out being a 3 core, the propus 4 core would have an edge on it. Certainly with X264 encoding, if the guy ever uses it. He's a musician, so I think the 4cores should come in handy. He's also a gamer. And if he ever elects to do overclocking, I'm sure the propus could reach 3.5Ghz. The Dual core phenom may not.
No chance to update my order now. I purchased :S
Thank you all for your words of encouragement, and opinions :D
Since I saved 15$ on the Ram, I bought that cheapy NAS enclosure by Bytecc. I'll keep the thread informed, regarding usability, and what not ;)
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7. May 2011 @ 23:04 |
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Originally posted by omegaman7:
Well, I see your point. I truly do. I updated my last post by the way.
This build is not mine. If it were, i'd likely buy the dual core phenom. But since I'll only have it for a day, that just isn't enough time to do testing on it. And if it were to turn out being a 3 core, the propus 4 core would have an edge on it. Certainly with X264 encoding, if the guy ever uses it. He's a musician, so I think the 4cores should come in handy. He's also a gamer. And if he ever elects to do overclocking, I'm sure the propus could reach 3.5Ghz. The Dual core phenom may not.
No chance to update my order now. I purchased :S
Thank you all for your words of encouragement, and opinions :D
Since I saved 15$ on the Ram, I bought that cheapy NAS enclosure by Bytecc. I'll keep the thread informed, regarding usability, and what not ;)
Oman7,
You would think that the 4 core Propus would have an edge over a 3 core Phenom IIx2, but it doesn't. Metaphorically speaking it's like trying to find a parking space where parking is limited. You waste a lot time driving around the block! The Phenom II x2 555BE has 3 times the parking space so you don't have to wait as often! LOL!! AMD has stated that no Athlon II will ever have L3 cache! My 955BE ran away and hid from the 450MHz higher clocked 630 Propus at any kind of Video encoding. Average time saved between the 3.65GHz Propus and a stock 955BE was 11 minutes for DVD/RB! The lack of more L2 cache or the 6MB L3 cache of the Phenom IIs really hurts in the real world performance of the Propus.
BTW! The Propus is much harder to overclock than the the 555BE. I simply unlocked the cores and set the multiplier to x18, with no additional voltages required. I did 5 passes with IBT full load and it passed! The 1090T BE was even better. it wasn't until I reached 3.8GHz that I had to add any voltage to it. The Wafer yields have gotten that good!
As you know, I'm leaving my main computer to Russell and I've de-tuned it to 3.726GHz. I've set the CPU voltage to 1.344v, the NB up one click to 1.30v and the CPU NB VID to 1.30v and it's perfect! I no longer use P95 because it's a waste of time and beats up the CPU. I've passed after hours of running it only to have DVDRB/CCE reset the computer on me. I haven't had a single reset, crash or uncompleted WU since Now I use IBT for spot testing and DVDRB/CCE for a final test, and it runs perfect. Folding at home is a good test too, but takes much longer. It won't reset the computer, but it won't complete the WUs if the computer is not right. I'm confident that Russell will have no problems with it!
Russ
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7. May 2011 @ 23:13 |
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I'd like to see some testing of a 3 core 555BE against a 3.0Ghz propus, with X264 as the playing field. Having a fourth core has to make up for the lack of cache. I would certainly think...
In any case, this guys computer is pretty old. Looked like a Dell BTX computer. So I couldn't very well keep the case. I'm sure the propus will blow his mind :p He seems easily impressed.
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7. May 2011 @ 23:40 |
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Originally posted by omegaman7:
I'd like to see some testing of a 3 core 555BE against a 3.0Ghz propus, with X264 as the playing field. Having a fourth core has to make up for the lack of cache. I would certainly think...
In any case, this guys computer is pretty old. Looked like a Dell BTX computer. So I couldn't very well keep the case. I'm sure the propus will blow his mind :p He seems easily impressed.
I might be able to arrange that test. Games are a mixed bag. Games that don't utilize the L2 cache score right up there with the big boys. Games that do utilize it suffer! Pretty simple really. You can't put 10 Lbs of sh!t in a 5 Lb bag! ROFL!!
Russ
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7. May 2011 @ 23:51 |
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You do make some good points ;) The propus is gonna be a cheap little cpu when Bulldozer comes out. At least his board is fairly future proof.
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8. May 2011 @ 05:12 |
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Oman7, I'd still go with the FOR SURE if we are talking $10! Just because Russ had good luck doesn't mean you will, even if yields are better than they use to be, and do you want a weaker CPU than you expect if things go south? Do you want to dink around with the CPU to get it to work? Do you really want to tweak the cores so they are not BALANCED using the +/- just to have now a weaker quad core? I think not!!!
Now if you were talking $100 bucks savings then maybe the extra hassle would be worth the effort. And I would say go for it. Sorry Russ but I disagree with your good point!
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8. May 2011 @ 05:22 |
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Originally posted by omegaman7:
WOW! This one is really cheap! Decent reviews so far too. At that price, it's tempting. 12.99 shipped! I'd be willing to gamble with that. I guess the real question is, could it handle a 2Tb drive. Probably not the 3Tb drives eh?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817145380
I'd give it a try since the price is so low. Even if it doesn't do the trick it is so cheap that you can toss it and move on without feeling too bad about it.
I haven't had good luck with Bytecc 3.5" non-NAS enclosures but that was years ago and they may have improved with their products.
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Originally posted by Mr-Movies:
Oman7, I'd still go with the FOR SURE if we are talking $10! Just because Russ had good luck doesn't mean you will, even if yields are better than they use to be, and do you want a weaker CPU than you expect if things go south? Do you want to dink around with the CPU to get it to work? Do you really want to tweak the cores so they are not BALANCED using the +/- just to have now a weaker quad core? I think not!!!
Now if you were talking $100 bucks savings then maybe the extra hassle would be worth the effort. And I would say go for it. Sorry Russ but I disagree with your good point!
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Steve,
That's OK steve, I only suggested it to Kevin because of the small budget, and it would have been a way to get better faster memory while keeping the price down. The Propus is a bit of a dog. At 3.5GHz, it barely outperforms the x2 555BE at a stock 3.2GHz, as a quad. Even then it only wins in benchmarks, not in the real world. It's a moot point, as Kevin already placed his order!
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Russ
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8. May 2011 @ 10:19 |
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BTW, do not open any emails, even if they are from friends if it says No Subject. Work that out with you friends. One of the tip-offs is that it's also sent to the sender, and always is sent to several other people as well I've been getting a lot of them in the last 3-4 months from Fred and Rick. They are all HTML files that will permanently destroy your hard drive and render it useless. It roaches the drive's bios chip, and it's toast! The computer will no longer even see it, not even in the setup! I can't believe that Rick decided to open one of the HTMLs and he's lost 3 drives so far! You also need to watch out for the AntiVirus Virus that's going around. Google it! some bad sh!t!
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I think this is about the first time I ever had an issue with old Russie lol, I don't know why and how he gets no subject e-mails from me because I have never sent a no subject e-mail ever, even in my earlier days when I was totally stupid with pc's, my kids use to do it a lot and I always corrected them.
However I do have maybe an idea and of course I can be wrong, Russ using hotmail, from my experience it totally sucks, everybody I know on my end that uses it has problems, I hate hotmail with a passion, my good friend around the corner who calls me often when a problem arises uses it, the hotmail he uses does the goofiest things, when I was in the UK & Ukraine last year I would send tons of pic's to friends and family, the only one's that had trouble recieving them or me sending them were all hotmail users.
I use AOL, yeah I know go ahead and laugh I really don't care, I have tried all the others and didn't like none of them, and not because I was being stubborn to change, I'm always open to learn new and better things, none could compare to ease of use as far as I'm concerned, and hotmail is the worst of them all, my buddy would call me I would come over, he couldn't retrieve things at times, click on things, send things sometimes, I would go crazy trying to figure it out, I would tell him now watch this, I would sign on using my AOL account on his pc, and everything he had a problem with, whatever pages he tried to surf I would his surf the exact pages with no problems at all, he would just scratch his head but would never try using something else, that's what he is use to and that's what he want's, it's called stubborn lol. my niece in the UK also uses hotmail, whenever I came over her house she had the same problems.
I have another buddy uses hotmail lives near me, I get tons of mail from him, half of his mail have no subject, I tell him about it all the time, plus many of his mails he sends are not only no subject there also blank, he says that happens to him a lot and he can't figure it out why, and I can't help cause I gave up trying to figure out hotmail with all my other friends or family, they all say how hotmail pisses them off but they never change.
I'll eat all kinds of criticism on this thread, I've always said I'm no where near to any of use guys as far as pc knowledge and never will be, but won't take a bum rap, so no Russie Ronnie, I never sent you a no subject mail, I'm not a gambler but would bet it's that hotmail of your's. I hate to disagree with my buddy, he's my guardian and god when I have a question or problems with pc's, and I'm not discounting anybody else here, almost everybody here, from them I learn something new, the best and smartest people are right here, the only comment I can make is sometimes when I ask a question nobody answers, but Russ will always get ahold of me by mail or phone when nobody else will answer or comment, and he'll contact me on his own, I'm not complaining, I just figure oh well maybe my question was to stupid for anybody to answer and just leave it at that.
And speaking of pc's, my build is done, actually it was done several weeks ago, I'm not gonna comment on it now, way to much to write about, and my hands already hurt, when some of you younger wipper snappers get to become older farts like me you will find out what I mean, I will later this week try to post on how things went, it wasn't without some problems, but got things all straightened out thanks to a friend of mine that own's a little pc repair shop and mostly Russ, but I will say this for now, I have never experienced a pc like this, have never seen anything this fast, didn't even know pc's could be this fast, I still can't get use to it but boy am I loving it, this thing runs so smooth and so fast I keep getting paranoid ok when will something go wrong, things can't be this good, the paranoia comes from that HP I used for 5 years, something always was going wrong.
Some of you remember the build I did 2 years ago for my kids, I thought that was a blazer, this new one is a rocket.
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10. May 2011 @ 09:43 |
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If anyone is looking for added storage here is a inexpensive but nicely built 4 drive sidecar that comes with a eSata card and everything else you need to get going right off, with exception to hard drives. What I like is that it can do RAID 5+1 which is a very nice feature for an inexpensive 4 bay system. It also uses Silicon Images chipset which is very compatible with most systems. The backplane is simple and seems to be decent quality. The only negative is, although you can HotSwap the drives it doesn't allow for drive carriers, which for the price tag should be expected.
Rosewill RSV-S4-X 4 Bay SATA to eSATA (Port Multiplier) JBOD / RAID 0, 1, 1+0, 5 Enclosure $130 shipped
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The only thing worse than hotmail is AOL, but who knows, maybe the fact that everyone stopped using it makes it slightly better for viruses...
I routinely send no subject emails if they're last minute quick messages, never had a problem with no subject messages. One of the useful things about google mail is if a message is no subject, or has a subject but one that is short, it will display the first few words of the message in the inbox preview, so you know what it is you're opening. If it looks suspicious, can always write an email back to them, and can the suspect message. Personally I find it very hard to believe that these emails are what's causing drives to go down. Sounds more like a virus to me. A virus that may also be sending them emails maybe, but I've never seen a case of an html file that can dump the BIOS of a hard drive. Stuff like this is usually the realm of fake virus warning emails, which I must get at least half a dozen of per year.
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