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10. May 2011 @ 10:28 |
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It's not that tough to put a subject in before sending email, and a message is never that urgent that one can't do that above and beyond pure laziness.
With that said most people will open no subject emails regardless so these kinds of warnings, which really mean nothing at the end of the day. And if you have auto preview enabled you are still opening up the email so you might as well just open it fully, same difference.
This type of problem always exists and is always a potential problem which means your usage should always accommodate such practices.
I got this email notification that is going around prior to Fred's post but I just deleted this nonsense and didn't forward it for the reasons above.
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10. May 2011 @ 11:59 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
The only thing worse than hotmail is AOL, but who knows, maybe the fact that everyone stopped using it makes it slightly better for viruses...
I routinely send no subject emails if they're last minute quick messages, never had a problem with no subject messages. One of the useful things about google mail is if a message is no subject, or has a subject but one that is short, it will display the first few words of the message in the inbox preview, so you know what it is you're opening. If it looks suspicious, can always write an email back to them, and can the suspect message. Personally I find it very hard to believe that these emails are what's causing drives to go down. Sounds more like a virus to me. A virus that may also be sending them emails maybe, but I've never seen a case of an html file that can dump the BIOS of a hard drive. Stuff like this is usually the realm of fake virus warning emails, which I must get at least half a dozen of per year.
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Writing one back to them does not solve anything. These are truly hijacked emails. The email address is the person who supposedly was sending it to you. One tip off is that the email is also sent to the poster. Since not many people send an email they are sending to others to themselves, I always look for that. It does it with all 3 of my email addressses. Hotmail, Yahoo and Google Mail. It's never in any of my European correspondence either.
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10. May 2011 @ 12:03 |
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I had to laugh at sammy's post the only thing worse that hotmail is aol, sammy I in no way want to start an argument with that, but, don't forget I have used both, as well as others, as far as viruses, I haven't had any in years in all the time using aol, however did get some of those scareware crap using IE8 surfing with google, thanks to malwarebytes and superantispyware was always able to get rid of them.
All techies I know do laugh at the fact that I use aol, that's cool, I would never try to convince anybody to use it, does it have issues, sure it does, but nothing compared to many others I tried, all the family members that I helped start on using pc's I always gave them the options of many browsers, most stick with aol, why, it's less problomatic plain and simple, and of course to each his or her own, how can I argue these facts, easy, whatever is easier and less problomatic to use is how I make my assumption, if something better comes my way I will change.
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10. May 2011 @ 12:20 |
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Originally posted by FredBun:
I had to laugh at sammy's post the only thing worse that hotmail is aol, sammy I in no way want to start an argument with that, but, don't forget I have used both, as well as others, as far as viruses, I haven't had any in years in all the time using aol, however did get some of those scareware crap using IE8 surfing with google, thanks to malwarebytes and superantispyware was always able to get rid of them.
All techies I know do laugh at the fact that I use aol, that's cool, I would never try to convince anybody to use it, does it have issues, sure it does, but nothing compared to many others I tried, all the family members that I helped start on using pc's I always gave them the options of many browsers, most stick with aol, why, it's less problomatic plain and simple, and of course to each his or her own, how can I argue these facts, easy, whatever is easier and less problomatic to use is how I make my assumption, if something better comes my way I will change.
I would disagree with AOL being less problematic in fact I've had more issues with people using AOL. The best route to go is using a client like Outlook or Opera or so many others. AOL has never been a good service it is just that most people have started with AOL and don't like change. That is the only good argument for AOL.
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10. May 2011 @ 12:25 |
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It's the only argument I know of for people that still use AOL. That or that AOL won't let them leave.
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10. May 2011 @ 12:30 |
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LOL! My mother refuses to switch from AOL. One day, they'll go out of business, then she'll have to adapt. I used it for dial up service(seems like ages ago). Good riddance.
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10. May 2011 @ 14:58 |
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Originally posted by theonejrs:
Originally posted by sammorris:
The only thing worse than hotmail is AOL, but who knows, maybe the fact that everyone stopped using it makes it slightly better for viruses...
I routinely send no subject emails if they're last minute quick messages, never had a problem with no subject messages. One of the useful things about google mail is if a message is no subject, or has a subject but one that is short, it will display the first few words of the message in the inbox preview, so you know what it is you're opening. If it looks suspicious, can always write an email back to them, and can the suspect message. Personally I find it very hard to believe that these emails are what's causing drives to go down. Sounds more like a virus to me. A virus that may also be sending them emails maybe, but I've never seen a case of an html file that can dump the BIOS of a hard drive. Stuff like this is usually the realm of fake virus warning emails, which I must get at least half a dozen of per year.
Sam,
Writing one back to them does not solve anything. These are truly hijacked emails. The email address is the person who supposedly was sending it to you. One tip off is that the email is also sent to the poster. Since not many people send an email they are sending to others to themselves, I always look for that. It does it with all 3 of my email addressses. Hotmail, Yahoo and Google Mail. It's never in any of my European correspondence either.
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Well no, that's not what I meant. If it was obviously a fake there'd of course be no point writing back, but if it was a no subject email that might have been legitimate but you weren't sure, you could write them an email separately (not as a reply) and find out that way, or since this is the modern age, send them an IM.
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10. May 2011 @ 15:59 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
Originally posted by theonejrs:
Originally posted by sammorris:
The only thing worse than hotmail is AOL, but who knows, maybe the fact that everyone stopped using it makes it slightly better for viruses...
I routinely send no subject emails if they're last minute quick messages, never had a problem with no subject messages. One of the useful things about google mail is if a message is no subject, or has a subject but one that is short, it will display the first few words of the message in the inbox preview, so you know what it is you're opening. If it looks suspicious, can always write an email back to them, and can the suspect message. Personally I find it very hard to believe that these emails are what's causing drives to go down. Sounds more like a virus to me. A virus that may also be sending them emails maybe, but I've never seen a case of an html file that can dump the BIOS of a hard drive. Stuff like this is usually the realm of fake virus warning emails, which I must get at least half a dozen of per year.
Sam,
Writing one back to them does not solve anything. These are truly hijacked emails. The email address is the person who supposedly was sending it to you. One tip off is that the email is also sent to the poster. Since not many people send an email they are sending to others to themselves, I always look for that. It does it with all 3 of my email addressses. Hotmail, Yahoo and Google Mail. It's never in any of my European correspondence either.
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Well no, that's not what I meant. If it was obviously a fake there'd of course be no point writing back, but if it was a no subject email that might have been legitimate but you weren't sure, you could write them an email separately (not as a reply) and find out that way, or since this is the modern age, send them an IM.
Sam,
See, that's the thing. All these emails were from people I know. When you scroll over the sender's name, it gives a legitimate email address, even though it didn't originate from the supposed sender! The first one I got was supposedly from Rick, and contained an html file. I do not open these files until I check with the person that supposedly sent it to me. Part of the caution was noticing that there were a bunch of others it was sent to, names of people who all of were people known to me but who I never had direct contact with before. Call me paranoid, but I always look at the names of others. When I see names that I know are not their contacts, but belong to people like Fred, or Rick or an email from my friend Alla in NY, and then see that she has also sent it to herself, I know something is wrong! It turned out to be the same way with Fred, Rick, another Rick, George, and a few others. When I saw this, I contacted all of the parties, and none of them sent these emails to me or anyone else I know. Rick Blackman opened one of them and so far he has lost 3 hard drives. The do not show in the bios, but occasionally will show in windows. If you try to access them it tells you that the disk needs to be formatted, and when you try, it says "drive not found"! You can't even access them with KillDisk II which is well before the drivers or files are loaded. Something has completely erased the bios in the drive. You have to replace the board on the drive to gain access to the data on the drive again. My other friend Rick opened one of the HTML files and when it did nothing, he immediately ran a virus scan in safe mode, and it took whatever it was out before it did any damage. The only time I send No Subject emails is when I'm on an IM with someone, and I know they are expecting it, because they know I'm sending it. So far I haven't gotten anything like that from Europe. I also get them on all 3 of my email accounts, but I get more through hotmail, I guess because it's my prime email. Since all my emails are virus scanned, I have to assume that it's set to a time, date or whatever it needs to make bad things happen. A quick virus scan will eliminate it if you do it right away. Once it hits a drive, there is nothing you can do about it. Whatever it is, it's pretty nasty!
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10. May 2011 @ 16:23 |
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Russ,
It could have came from someone like Rick and still conatained the nasty you just never know and that is why it is important to use the subject line when sending emails however that doesn't always make the email safe either of course.
If you have a good IAVP you can always scan the email, mine is setup to do that automatically. I typically delete no subject emails reguardless of who they are from and then you avoid those spawning nasties for the most part of course.
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10. May 2011 @ 17:49 |
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Well like I said before, I tried most of them, it's not like I stay with aol because thats what I'm use to, I always try something new, the others, no thanks, I knew I was gonna get ganged up on, like I said before that's ok, almost every techie I know does not use it, they say it's to crappy, it's for kids, fine, for me I never have problems, things always run smooth, and no I never had problems leaving, I left several times with no issues. Now I challenge for all you techies here, try and solve Russ's problem with hotmail, or even yahoo for that matter, he uses that also with almost the same problem, good luck guys let me know how it goes lol, but my suckie aol I don't have those problems, nor any other for that matter.
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10. May 2011 @ 17:58 |
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I won't speak badly about AOL. But it is extra software, that one has to pay extra for. At least in my mothers case. I found a long time ago, that my systems run better without it. Multiple AOL processes running in my background don't appeal to me. Especially when I'm not even running the software. My mothers Brand new computer seems to run it well though. I won't speak badly about it. We all have our own preferences.
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10. May 2011 @ 19:31 |
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Originally posted by FredBun:
Well like I said before, I tried most of them, it's not like I stay with aol because thats what I'm use to, I always try something new, the others, no thanks, I knew I was gonna get ganged up on, like I said before that's ok, almost every techie I know does not use it, they say it's to crappy, it's for kids, fine, for me I never have problems, things always run smooth, and no I never had problems leaving, I left several times with no issues. Now I challenge for all you techies here, try and solve Russ's problem with hotmail, or even yahoo for that matter, he uses that also with almost the same problem, good luck guys let me know how it goes lol, but my suckie aol I don't have those problems, nor any other for that matter.
Russ's problem could have happened to you just as easily or to any of us for that matter. However hopefully your protection catches it before laying the nasty, in Russ's case he wasn't that lucky. As to solving his problem it can be done bring the putter over and we will give it a shot.
AOL is a resource hog, bloatware, and nonsense one just doesn't need, so sorry Fred no sympathy here, nor will I say it is OK, it is not. Why you don't like anything else has to be that you?re comfortable with AOL and change is not good because almost anything else is better. Enough said with that.
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10. May 2011 @ 23:17 |
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AOL is a resource hog, bloatware, and nonsense one just doesn't need, so sorry Fred no sympathy here, nor will I say it is OK, it is not. Why you don't like anything else has to be that you're comfortable with AOL and change is not good because almost anything else is better. Enough said with that.
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Your right, it is, it's also how you look at it, does it slow me down drastically, no it doesn't, does it throw a lot of crap on me, no it doesn't, is it comfortable, of course it is, it doesn't give me problems and it's easy to use, I am not trying to convince anybody here to change, I would not be that stupid, it just gets a little tiring after one's using of aol as foolish, stupid etc.
For the longest time I read or hear so much nonsense about this issue, I'll give you an example, bloatware, it might take several more seconds to load up than others, I can live with that, I'm in no rush, I'm not in no instant gratification mode, viruses, what viruses, 99% of the time when people catch them it's because of their own negligence not what browser your using, my aol catches spam at least 90% of the time right in the spam folder where it belongs, it does a great job without me setting up any extra's, were to lazy or to scared to change, sorry, done that, it's time has come, it's gonna die very soon and good riddance, I heard that 8 years ago, it's still here and probably will for more years to come.
Why did I come back to it? simple, it's easy to use, I like it's layout, I like how I can view the news, the weather, sports, I like how it spell checks, I like how easy it is to I.M. with my kids, etc. etc. all right in front of me, does it have bullcrap articles, sure, just avoid them, and what browser doesn't, I don't down anybody else using whatever they use, I never see or hear anybody else using anything other than aol get flack, once people hear you are still using aol you just opened yourself to a brunt of jokes, I don't have any problems with it, my friends that use it don't have any either, but on the other hand I sure as hell know of many that have had problems using others, have seen it first hand.
Iv' e seen Russ get flack hear by sticking with XP, everybody thinks he's to stubborn to change, he has changed to 7, and went back, why, cause it become a pain in the ass, caused him to may problems, but still nobody would give him the benefit of doubt, why is that so hard to understand, or do I have to go down town a ring the liberty bell to announce it lol. I'm just tired of aol getting so much bad rap, probably because some years ago a bunch of geek's announce how silly it was to use and everybody else followed suit, oh since they said it than it must be true, yeah right, I'm very glad everybody that uses whatever they use are happy with it, by all means stay with it, just don't think I or anybody else that uses it should be labeled, Oh I can't believe you still use it, I can easily throw a vise versa on all the others, but I don't.
And sympathy I don't need, however I do sympathize with so many others with some of the other crappy browsers I experienced and those people that have so many problems with.
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don't hear me complaining as still with xp & ie8.
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Nor me, excepting i won't use IE, but to quote Stephen King's Misery, "i'm XP's biggest fan", the OS that just can't be killed.
One thing i try to avoid doing on any Microsoft computer is online banking, checking USB sticks that anyone brings me at work (the other week i fell foul of a virus off someone's USB stick, all it took was opening the stick in windows explorer, there was some kind of autoboot virus on there. Even formatting the stick under linux didn't help, turned out the virus was spreading thru network shares, and re-infecting the stick when put back in my windows machine. Ultimately the virus took out my work machine's boot record. It took a few days to fix the underlying problem as the virus was spreading thru network shares. Luckily it stayed within our branch and i squashed the little blighter eventually. It was this one - "W32.SillyFDC.BDP" ~ (not very dangerous but highly irritating due to traversing thru USB sticks and shares). It ended up on linux servers/desktops (via shares) also but of course linux just laughs at viruses so cleanup on linux was a breeze.
Any road up, the point is that i no longer let any USB stick from anyone at work anywhere near my windows work machine (it's a laptop so i don't want to affect other branch networks or my home network), so i only use USB sticks from other people on my works linux box as no viruses there. Same reason i only access my online banking on a linux machine, whether at home or work.
As to html and other viruses, i do use gmail and hotmail but avoid getting hit by viruses from friends in one simple way. I don't use such mail systems to chat to friends. If ever i do get a mail from a friend (very rare as i avoid doing this as i say) i open said mails on a linux box, no way would i open one on a windows box, no matter how protected i think that windows box is.
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Originally posted by Mr-Movies:
Originally posted by FredBun:
Well like I said before, I tried most of them, it's not like I stay with aol because thats what I'm use to, I always try something new, the others, no thanks, I knew I was gonna get ganged up on, like I said before that's ok, almost every techie I know does not use it, they say it's to crappy, it's for kids, fine, for me I never have problems, things always run smooth, and no I never had problems leaving, I left several times with no issues. Now I challenge for all you techies here, try and solve Russ's problem with hotmail, or even yahoo for that matter, he uses that also with almost the same problem, good luck guys let me know how it goes lol, but my suckie aol I don't have those problems, nor any other for that matter.
Russ's problem could have happened to you just as easily or to any of us for that matter. However hopefully your protection catches it before laying the nasty, in Russ's case he wasn't that lucky. As to solving his problem it can be done bring the putter over and we will give it a shot.
AOL is a resource hog, bloatware, and nonsense one just doesn't need, so sorry Fred no sympathy here, nor will I say it is OK, it is not. Why you don't like anything else has to be that you?re comfortable with AOL and change is not good because almost anything else is better. Enough said with that.
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I personally didn't have any problem because I never open any HTML files unless I know for sure who they are from, and I know it's coming. I always delete No Subject emails. I just wish you could use Eraser on it, but you can only delete them! Rick was the only one I know who opened one and had a problem. My other friend Rick, also in Florida (maybe it's the heat!) opened one and when it did nothing, he immediately ran a virus scan which removed it. It's cost Rick Blackman 3 large HDDs so far! It trashes the bios in the HDD, and the drive vanishes from the setup! Only cure is a new board for the drive, which the manufacturers doesn't sell or replace! They will give you a new drive if it's under warranty, but they won't replace the board. The only solution I can see is to pay for an advanced replacement drive at big dollars, use the board from the new one so you can recover the files, then switch it back and send the old drive back. Be aware that an advanced replacement price from a manufacturer is much higher that buying one from Newegg. They make it expensive enough that you will send it back!
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EMAIL
I use email a lot and have only once in 30 years been hit by a nasty in an email however I don't open up suspicious attachments or emails with no subject line.
BANKING
I also have done online banking on my Windows machines since it has been possible and again never had any problems with my personal info being stolen. The only time I got hit at the bank was with an online purchase where my bank account was compromised and I had to change my account. I do thousands and thousands of transactions across the web so the percentage of incidence is way less than %1 of problems, way less.
PHISHING
I have had several attempts made to phish my personal information, many!, and the only time I got hit by this was with a eBay phish. I was stupid on that one and should of known better but got hit and my eBay account was compromised.
WINDOWS XP
As to XP it is arguably Microsoft?s best OS ever and is still a great OS. I can't fault anyone for using it or changing as it is still very functional and in some areas better than Seven. That will change but for now if you are happy with XP and don't need some of the new bells and whistles why change!
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USB sticks and their problems; some businesses address this buy disallowing USB devices in Security Policies but you can also turn off Autoplay to prevent nasty?s. Again a good AV program which is needed these days and you?re pretty safe with a little common sense too, which I know is lacking these days.
Russ,
There are something(s) I don?t understand from Rick?s problem.
1st ? You say the BIOS gets spanked but ONLY the HDD?s in the BIOS. I?ve never heard of just one section of a BIOS getting corrupted, normally if the BIOS is corrupted all of it is damaged. If it is true only the HDD?s have been affected then you should be able to re-flash the BIOS to get your HDD?s back.
2nd ? Does the board Post? If it does it could be the HDD?s themselves that are at issue and not the BIOS or even a RootKit virus.
3rd - Can you pull the HDD?s out and connect them to another PC and read the drives?
These are some of the question I would have but reserved to more depending.
Where does the other Rick live in Florida I have a Condo in Fort Myers?
Board replacement from the manufacture - You can get a board replacement for around $30 I just did that about a year ago on a system where part of the board went bad. It was questionable whether to buy new or replace but such is life.
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You're preaching to the converted, i just illustrated that nowadays i've switched a few tasks to linux only. Not because i don't know what i'm doing but to avoid the actions (and inactions!) of others. But generally you're right, Windows if fine for such tasks. It's just that not everybody out there is able to avoid these things (nor can a lot of people even understand techie things, even on Windows, and to be fair they shouldn't have to care about how stuff like this works, in this day and age people should be able to use computers without having to be a techie), and in my case i can just easily avoid some of the more common threats by using linux for those. Windows has always gone around flashing neon lights saying "please infect me" and all of these years later it's laughable that it's still woefully inadequate at protecting itself (the tin foil hit part of me wouldn't be surprised if it was deliberately coded that way). But i love XP and thus i cut it some slack for being such a plague carrier of an OS :)
I haven't come across viruses that kill boot sectors that badly, can't comment on that.
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Although people shouldn't need to be tech savvy that is a nice wish but far from true today. More than ever people need to be aware of their surroundings when online. It is unfortunate but there is no way around it. This lack of awareness is why we have so many people social networking and putting all of their personal info out there for the crooks to take advantage of. I think in some ways society is dumbing down, social networking is a prime example of that, so when you say people shouldn't have to know better I disagree, no surprise there though.
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Originally posted by Mr-Movies:
EMAIL
I use email a lot and have only once in 30 years been hit by a nasty in an email however I don't open up suspicious attachments or emails with no subject line.
BANKING
I also have done online banking on my Windows machines since it has been possible and again never had any problems with my personal info being stolen. The only time I got hit at the bank was with an online purchase where my bank account was compromised and I had to change my account. I do thousands and thousands of transactions across the web so the percentage of incidence is way less than %1 of problems, way less.
PHISHING
I have had several attempts made to phish my personal information, many!, and the only time I got hit by this was with a eBay phish. I was stupid on that one and should of known better but got hit and my eBay account was compromised.
WINDOWS XP
As to XP it is arguably Microsoft?s best OS ever and is still a great OS. I can't fault anyone for using it or changing as it is still very functional and in some areas better than Seven. That will change but for now if you are happy with XP and don't need some of the new bells and whistles why change!
USB FLASH DRIVES
USB sticks and their problems; some businesses address this buy disallowing USB devices in Security Policies but you can also turn off Autoplay to prevent nasty?s. Again a good AV program which is needed these days and you?re pretty safe with a little common sense too, which I know is lacking these days.
Russ,
There are something(s) I don?t understand from Rick?s problem.
1st ? You say the BIOS gets spanked but ONLY the HDD?s in the BIOS. I?ve never heard of just one section of a BIOS getting corrupted, normally if the BIOS is corrupted all of it is damaged. If it is true only the HDD?s have been affected then you should be able to re-flash the BIOS to get your HDD?s back.
2nd ? Does the board Post? If it does it could be the HDD?s themselves that are at issue and not the BIOS or even a RootKit virus.
3rd - Can you pull the HDD?s out and connect them to another PC and read the drives?
These are some of the question I would have but reserved to more depending.
Where does the other Rick live in Florida I have a Condo in Fort Myers?
Stevo
Steve,
I'm talking about completely wiping the bios chip on the board of the HDD, not the MB system bios! They don't show up on any computer. You can't access them from Killdisk II. It's just like there is no drive there! You can't flash them with any firmware either. It just vanishes!
Rick lives way north of you in Tampa.
I moved to Fla. in 72, and lived with my Grandparents in Sarasota for a month until I got a place of my own. Too humid for me! LOL!!
Russ
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11. May 2011 @ 07:04 |
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That makes more sense but is the worst of the scenarios as recovering his data would be much more difficult than a MB BIOS corrupted. If all of the drives are the same and he could get a replacement board for at least one of them he could possibly recover all of his HDD's. What a bummer!
Tampa is nice and they get the Air shows up there that I like to go to so I do get up there on occasion. It is too humid in Florida though! Being from Minnesota I love it when it is 55-60F and everyone has their winter coats on but I'm running around in shorts perfectly comfortable. LOL
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Originally posted by Mr-Movies:
I think in some ways society is dumbing down, social networking is a prime example of that
Absolutely, it's a mindless, dumb thing that either attracts mindless dumb or makes people mindless and dumb.
And any combination of the words that we can come up with :). Society is most certainly dumbing down, and social networking is one the reasons it is, as well as social networking itself looking like a symptom of the dumbing down (not sure that's coherent - argghhh, i'm becoming dumb. LMAO).
Originally posted by Mr-Movies:
so when you say people shouldn't have to know better I disagree, no surprise there though.
I mean that technology is at the stage where all the crap that a lot of people shouldn't need to care about, is handled in such a way that it's 'handled' if you like. But like you i've been in I.T. long enough to know that it's an oxymoron, computers getting better means techies are less necessary than they used to be, so me wanting tech to be better only makes my skills less necessary. And i've already retrained 3 times in my career, i'm not getting any younger (42) (not explained well enough but i hope the gist makes sense).
But there are huge amounts of society who don't care about how stuff works, and there are that do. It's just that in this day and age tech just isn't at that stage yet, but no biggie for us as we still need to earn a living
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Originally posted by creaky:
Originally posted by Mr-Movies:
I think in some ways society is dumbing down, social networking is a prime example of that
Absolutely, it's a mindless, dumb thing that either attracts mindless dumb or makes people mindless and dumb.
And any combination of the words that we can come up with :). Society is most certainly dumbing down, and social networking is one the reasons it is, as well as social networking itself looking like a symptom of the dumbing down (not sure that's coherent - argghhh, i'm becoming dumb. LMAO).
Originally posted by Mr-Movies:
so when you say people shouldn't have to know better I disagree, no surprise there though.
I mean that technology is at the stage where all the crap that a lot of people shouldn't need to care about, is handled in such a way that it's 'handled' if you like. But like you i've been in I.T. long enough to know that it's an oxymoron, computers getting better means techies are less necessary than they used to be, so me wanting tech to be better only makes my skills less necessary. And i've already retrained 3 times in my career, i'm not getting any younger (42) (not explained well enough but i hope the gist makes sense).
But there are huge amounts of society who don't care about how stuff works, and there are that do. It's just that in this day and age tech just isn't at that stage yet, but no biggie for us as we still need to earn a living
I guess I didn't fully understand what you were conveying, but I definitely and fully agree with you.
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Originally posted by creaky:
Originally posted by Mr-Movies:
I think in some ways society is dumbing down, social networking is a prime example of that
Absolutely, it's a mindless, dumb thing that either attracts mindless dumb or makes people mindless and dumb.
And any combination of the words that we can come up with :). Society is most certainly dumbing down, and social networking is one the reasons it is, as well as social networking itself looking like a symptom of the dumbing down (not sure that's coherent - argghhh, i'm becoming dumb. LMAO).
Originally posted by Mr-Movies:
so when you say people shouldn't have to know better I disagree, no surprise there though.
I mean that technology is at the stage where all the crap that a lot of people shouldn't need to care about, is handled in such a way that it's 'handled' if you like. But like you i've been in I.T. long enough to know that it's an oxymoron, computers getting better means techies are less necessary than they used to be, so me wanting tech to be better only makes my skills less necessary. And i've already retrained 3 times in my career, i'm not getting any younger (42) (not explained well enough but i hope the gist makes sense).
But there are huge amounts of society who don't care about how stuff works, and there are that do. It's just that in this day and age tech just isn't at that stage yet, but no biggie for us as we still need to earn a living
creaky,
I want nothing to do with Social Networking! It's constantly monitored by Homeland Security and even other Government agencies. You can make the wrong joke and wind up being taken away by Homeland Security, with absolutely no rights at all. The longest they have held someone is 7 years. To this day he has no idea what they were holding him for other then he was being held under the Patriot Act as a matter of national Security. He tried to sue, but that's against the law. No one is held accountable for anything! Isn't freedom wonderful?
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Russ
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I'll just agree (fully) with you Russ and i'll leave it at (other than saying it's admitted fact as to why Facebook et al were created, by who and the purpose is not what the mindless users of it think it is - it's even more mindless when it's an admitted fact as to who and why it was really created and the mindless still love it!).
I'll leave it there as my tin foil hat is fitting more and more comfortably as times goes on :p
Facebook for example constantly brag on the news about using facial profiling on the mindless ones, selling customer details, knowing about security bugs and not caring, the list is endless. Open and brazen bragging and the mindless lap it up all the more.
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