Originally posted by sammorris:

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Yeah I've got a hotswap dock for hard disks, it's really handy. The whole point of hard disks though is that you don't have them lying around where they can be thrown, dropped etc. :P
With them all in a PC you never need to ever leave anything lying around, it's all internal. If you want proper power-isolated redundancy, just find a cupboard to leave them in, check them every few weeks/months save for the drive you're backing up new data to and you're fine. It honestly is less hassle than optical media...

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Originally posted by Mr-Movies:

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Originally posted by FredBun:

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fragile optical media, Hmm, let me think about this for a moment, I have seen my kids throw, scratch, stain and do almost everything else less wipe their butt with them, and they could still play, try and do that with a hardrive.

We went thru this before lol, we all know disc's if properly taken care of will outlast hardrives 10 fold, I mentioned before, I think I got close to 4000 movies, sure it would be a lot easier to stack them on hardrives, but after doing all the work getting them, not to mention the cost, and they are important to me and my family, and have the option to let whomever watch what they want to watch in whatever room using a dvd player is very accessible and easy, other wise you would need a pc in every room in the house.

I had this discussion with Russ one time, I told him the day I stop using disc's would be the day I could insert an external hardrive into a dvd player like a disc, but would still worry about the longevity.

But he got me on this one, he said Fred you can almost already do that, I think he mentioned a docking station or something to that nature, sent me a link to view one, I was flabbergasted, didn't even know something like that was available, so my argumentative ammunition with Russ almost came to a halt, like I said he got me on that one, but still, maybe because of fear, about the longevity etc, so for now I'll still stick with what I'm doing.

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Right on Fred but Russ isn't totally right about a docking station as you can pooch a hdd in a docking station if you remove the drive when you shouldn't or a virus decides to attach itself. Again a hard drive is vulnerable how often have you screwed up an optical disc pulling it out without safe releasing it or just popping it out in mid play? How about never!

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Originally posted by ddp:

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Mr-Movies, don't double post as per forum rules.
12. Repeated posts to increase total number of posts is not allowed. Especially if your message is the last in the thread, edit it rather than post a new message.
http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/2487

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Originally posted by sammorris:

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I think this conversation has run its course. If you have kids and you let them mess around with everything, sure perhaps optical discs are more robust. If you actually have some form of control though, mechanical storage is a lot easier. I find the idea that a virus would never end up on a DVD laughable, but that's another story.

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So you are coming around to the point that optical is more safe, which is true

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Originally posted by sammorris:

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So you are coming around to the point that optical is more safe, which is true

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That's not what I said...

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sure perhaps optical discs are more robust

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Originally posted by sammorris:

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Well, by all means take half my sentence so you can spin what I said out of context. The rest of the sentence illustrated that optical discs are more robust for a specific example. The rest of the time though...

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Originally posted by omegaman7:

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Oh people will find faults in anything. I look at both technologies cautiously. What I mean is, either could fail. It's a matter of preference, habit, and knowledge. A person that has had a lot of trouble with Optical media, and not with hard drives, is likely to trust HDD's more. A person who has had trouble with HDD's is gonna trust optical media more. Myself, I've acquired a comfort with both technologies. I have an intimate trust in both technologies. The damn velociraptor is gonna make me nuts though! I think I have another one being finicky. I'll probably find out this weekend. What I plan on doing is dumping one of my 1Tb drives, onto a 2Tb drive, and cloning my Velociraptor to the 1Tb drive, and running it that way for a time. I believe i'm getting a kind of intermittent connection. Eliminating the V-Raptor could allow me to discover a problem ;)

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Originally posted by sammorris:

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Well it does, because if you have backups, there is no consequence to your main storage failing, thus the argument about reliability is rendered completely irrelevant...

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Originally posted by sammorris:

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That's why you check it? The odds of two HDDs with corresponding data failing at the same time are very low, far lower than the odds of an optical disc failing.

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Originally posted by omegaman7:

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Perhaps the drive that went down, was already doomed, when you transferred files? Reminds me of some optical drives. Believe it or not, there are optical drives that will ignore read errors. Contrary to some believing that is impossible. It is not impossible. It simply requires certain circumstances/variables to be met.

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