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Pinnacle Instant Copy. The next best thing?!?!?
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19. February 2003 @ 07:21 |
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I just tried this program overnight. Here is the info
Features
Make true 1:1 copies of your DVD's
Copy all the contents of a DVD, onto one recordable DVD disc
Unique DVD copying technology for the very best quality
One-click or power-user DVD creation
Copy Data and Mixed Media DVDs
Transfer DVD content to VCDs and SVCDs that can be played on most DVD players
Multi - CD spanning allows DVD content to be copied seamlessly across multiple discs
Select the titles, subtitles and audio tracks you want
Make backup copies of audio CDs, including oversize CD formats
Supports all CD content and media formats
Manufacturer's Description
Making copies of your DVDs and CDs for personal use has never been faster or easier. Featuring a friendly interface and revolutionary duplication technology, Pinnacle InstantCopy burns perfect copies every time-and at unbeatable speeds! It?s the smart way to clone DVDs, transfer DVDs to CD, and copy CDs.
Featuring a user-friendly interface and unique compression technology, Pinnacle Systems InstantCopy software rapidly burns flawless copies of DVDs and CDs. It makes true 1:1 copies of DVDs that contain all the DVD content, including the main movie, menus, languages, subtitles and bonus material. It also transfers DVD movies to Video CDs and Super VCDs that can be played on nearly any PC or home DVD player. Finally, InstantCopy makes perfect bit-for-bit copies of your CD media including data, music and video thanks to its support of all CD formats, all recordable CD formats and most CD drives.
A QUICK TUTORIAL
This program DOES what it says. I just did a WHOLE ENTIRE (I mean everything menus, extras, videos, etc.) DVD9 8 gig movie to a 4.37 gig DVD-R with great results. I have to say a 8.5 out of 10 as there were some noticable artifacts in the extras, menu and very little in 1 or 2 scenes in the movie itself. It was not fast but it did it all except extract the movie to the HD. Here was the process.
I used DVD Decrypter in File mode to extract everything on the disc (not just the movie pgcs, etc.), put it in a named movie folder with a VIDEO_TS folder inside to decrypt to.
I ran Pinnacle Instant Copy and on the left pane selected the folder from the HD (double click Hard Disk), here you can pick in a drop down menu a few choices like DVD video folder, All Supported Images or Disc Image (It doesn't recognize ISO from DVD Decrypter so I don't know "Disc Image"). Then in the right pane do the same double click Hard Disk to tell it where to save to (You can choose your DVD writer here but I haven't tested that yet).
After 5.5 hours I got a 4.1 gig split up proprietary file format (no standalone VIDEO_TS & AUDIO_TS folders to burn) so you have to use their software to burn the image to DVD-R. You can also select/deselect options like keep all audio streams or just English and keep subtitles or not etc.
I have to admit I do like this program and I think this is what we have all waited for (finally someone did it). Except for the long encoding times
Now if they can only do the encoding as fast as DVD2One (which I hear is in developement). Then we have a winner.
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stevew
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19. February 2003 @ 07:44 |
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Hey DextrsLab,
Do you have to use DVD decrypter with this program or can you copy DVD9 to DVD-r on the fly, straight from DVD to DVD-r? And also how was the quality as they obviously are using some compression technology?
Thanks!
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19. February 2003 @ 07:54 |
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You have to use an "extractor" of some sort. I tried to do it on the fly but a message of "This film is protected by CSS and can only be done from HD" or something like that.
As for the quality the best comparison I can give is if you have tried DVD2One and liked it, then that is the best explanation I can give you. I personally love DVD2One's results and especially it's speed. Instant Copy's only drawback in my opinion is it's encoding times, so I have to say (for me that is) I would use DVD2One for the majority of movies and use Instant Copy for the occasional few that I want to be "intact".
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stevew
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19. February 2003 @ 12:07 |
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Thanks!! I will try the DVD2One method when I get a chance. Appreciate the input.
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Mopreme
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22. February 2003 @ 09:52 |
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I agree, i tried pinnacle instant copy and its a brilliant program. i recomend it to anyone.
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tamkar
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22. February 2003 @ 14:46 |
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Hi guys
I have downloaded the Demo version of the Pinnacle Instant Copy.
I like the software but unfortunetly I'm getting an error message with every single DVD movie.
"this DVD is CSS copy protected.
This program allows only copying of non copy protected DVDs and DVD content from harddisk."
Did you have the same problem, or is only the demo version?
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Peinecone
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22. February 2003 @ 20:51 |
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tamkar, if you had read the other posts, you would have seen you have to rip the DVD ith DVDecrypter first to your HD then use instant copy
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Jugulator
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25. February 2003 @ 05:44 |
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I´m trying this program for about a week. I´ve detected an error. When you choose 2 subtitles streams (in the main movie for example) one for the movie itself and one for the director´s comments, it creates a stream empty for the second sub. stream. When you´re watching the movie and press the sub. button it appears on the tv sreen the name of the sub but it is empty no subtitle is shown during the speech.
Does anyone knows how to solv this problem?
Best regards
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mading25
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25. February 2003 @ 06:28 |
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Ok, I really don't know what I'm doing wrong. I just DVD decrypt a DVD. This thing created a folder VIDEO_TS (as expected). Now, the problem is that I can't link this dawm folder with Instant Copy... When the "Select Source Image" windows popup, I'm kinda not able to select a folder since it just go inside it. I choose "DVD Video Folder" but after that, I'm just browsing in the repertory, not picking a place where the image is. What I'm doing wrong?!?
Thanks,
Yan
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SONY007
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25. February 2003 @ 18:15 |
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@mading25 I'm also having that same problem, i'll click on all files but it won't allow me to use the video_ts folder.
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ZARBIKER
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25. February 2003 @ 19:25 |
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This program is a well architected and professionally packaged piece of software. A real manual, integrated burning, fairly intuitive interface, a low bug rate for a first release and produces very high quality. So far I've used IFOEDIT, DVDXCOPY, DVDSPLIT and DVD2ONE. I was originally of the opinion that full DVD resolution was the only way to go. This product has changed my perspective. It also satisfies my preference to keep the menus and extras intact.
IFOEDIT is, of course, the greatest but requires sitting too long at the computer to perform the various steps.
DVDXCOPY is very easy to use but they implant 'traceable' user ID information into the video streams on the output DVD. This could be viewed as an excessively risky exposure considering the pronounced legal battles that the company seems headed towards. The arguably innocuous lending of a backup of an owned movie to a friend or family member could mean trouble if inadvertently viewed by the wrong person while in their possession. It is not murder or rape but it may be considered a crime in the coming copyright sensitive environment. You can use IFOEDIT to remove the normally persistent DVDXCOPY disclaimer screens but I haven't seen any way to get rid of the embedded watermarks.
DVD2ONE is easy to use and a simple product but only because it apparently minimizes dealing with IFO structures and consequently is not designed to copy anything other than video and audio streams. Also, while the re-encoding is fast, at least, according to several posts I have read, is only of decent quality when directed to reduce resolution by small percentages.
InstantCopy's only substantive negative is that it seems to have a few bugs (it's a first release) and that it's re-encoding implementation is seriously slow. I have a dual processor workstation with two XEON 2.4 processors with hyperthreading enabled and it still takes about two hours to copy a pre-ripped movie (plus menus and extras) of about 7 Gigabytes.
From observing Windows XP task manager it does not appear to be a multithreaded application. Only one of the four CPU engines (2 normal and 2 hyperthreaded)is pinned. They obviously could redesign their routines to take advantage of more available CPU horsepower that will imminently be available on most desktops (according to Intel just about every Pentium family member will be hyperthreaded soon). Once they tweak their algorithms, introduce some parallelism, take better advantage of multimedia specific machine instructions, etc. then I think it will be a truly kick-ass product.
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harmonic
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25. February 2003 @ 21:04 |
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mading25: Just select the VIDEO_TS.IFO file to commence copying.
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nbraybro
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28. February 2003 @ 04:10 |
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I ripped my movie with Smartripper which overcomes the problems shown above. Instantcopy then spent 5 hrs reprocessing the video only at the very end did it say it was unable to write the file. 5hrs wasted - Does anyone have any ideas?
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mading25
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28. February 2003 @ 06:33 |
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I know what I was doing wrong! At the DVD Decrypt, I wasn't taking ALL the file, causing the aove problem. I did already some DVD copy, it's working great! Thanks all for your comments.
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koreylaw
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28. February 2003 @ 07:46 |
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I have an ATI AIW 9700 and when I install it it messes up my .mpg2 playback and makes it get all jumpy and jerky. Has anyone else seen this problem?
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St_Bambi
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28. February 2003 @ 19:12 |
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I've been using the trial version of InstantCopy to back up Shrek (8Gb to 4Gb) and The Importance of Being Earnest (7Gb to 3.9Gb).
It's really amazing. Not even the time factor bothers me that much (just leave it on when I go to sleep at night).
The only problem I've had is that the audio is a bit wonky at the beginning of the film but it seem to even out after the first couple of minutes. Has anyone else had this problem and been able to fix it?
Other than that, I was going to buy DVD2One, but I'll now be spending my money on InstantCopy.
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SpeciesX
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1. March 2003 @ 04:10 |
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Ok Fair enough i downloaded this rebooted pc ran it np tokk a few hours like u said only what do u use 2 burn it with now and all the discs i buy say 4.6gig but nero only reads it at 4.5 gig how do u corrcet this?
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al546
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1. March 2003 @ 07:24 |
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I think IC is a good program my main problem with it is when it re-encodes it doesnt make full use of DVD-5 space. I did a dvd of 6GB and it reduced it to 3.8GB. I thought it may have been just me but I notice others getting similar results.
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DJGEOJOE
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7. March 2003 @ 09:58 |
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OK, I went and shelled out $50 for Pinnacle Instant copy and read the instruction pamphlet from cover to cover. I started with the movie ?the ring?, ripped it with smart ripper. The first time with pinnacle I selected ?automatic size? and after 2 hours I got a nice image file. I use pinnacle to burn the image to my DVD200e burner and it says the image is too large for the disk, so I try a forced burn (WRONG, no good). OK NP I go back and select custom size and take out the French language track and all the subtitles. I wait another 2 hours and I got another image file. I try to burn that image file and I get another error saying my DVD+R media is still to small so I tried a truncated burn, that burned but the menus do not work (WRONG, no good). OK so I go back to customize and again take out the French language track and the subtitles and uncheck the video compression check box and set it 3 levels lower to about 49%. I then went to sleep and in the morning I started recording the image with no errors from the pinnacle software. All of the sudden my DVD burner locks up in the middle of the burn! DAMN! 3 DVD+Rs are now UFOs! I am cussing out my DVD burner and the only thing that is making me not whip it across the room is the fact that it cost me $599 LOL. I am going to try the burn again when I get home tonight and hopefully it will finish and I will have a great copy like everyone is raging about. At this point I am lost as to why the program would intentionally make an image that will not fit on a standard DVD+R. I cant change the driver for my DVD burner in pinnacle software and I seem to be out of options, short of calling pinnacle, but I thought I would try here first. Has anyone been able to make a DVD using the automatic setting or do I have to manually set the video compression each time?
PS3 160GB Internal Western Digital Scorpio WD1600BEVS
XBOX v1.1 with 120GB Seagate and Samsung SDG-605 --- Matrix with evox M7
PS2 39001 v7 --- Messiah 2 Pro
DJGeoJoe -d(-_-)b-
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omegaboy
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7. March 2003 @ 17:26 |
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i threw my pioneer dvdrw drive down the hall last 2 weeks because of the lock up for more than 7 dvds. But then that was the same day I bought the drive so i brought back to the store and tell them the drive looks damaged like that when I opened the box, and request an exchange... lol!!!
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godhead7
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8. March 2003 @ 04:40 |
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Very confused at this point. I love this site and hope that you guys can help. I went to the local computer store giant to pick up the Pinnacle and the guys there kept saying that DVDXCopy was a much better program. I am VERY new to this and wanted to know which program is the better one.
I know that w/ Pinnacle you need to use the DVD Decrypter, but the guy at the store kept saying that DVD X Copy could do everything and still get the DVD on one disk.
Can anyone who has actually USED both products help me out here?
THanks in advance.
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DJGEOJOE
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8. March 2003 @ 11:41 |
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I just found out that pinnacle knows about the over sizing of the image when auto size is selected. They told me that there would soon be a patch that will correct this problem. The program does work though. I was able to make a DVD+RW and DVD+R with all the menus and content, I had to uncheck that automatic size check box and move the video compression slider down one notch from the auto setting level. It appears that the file it is making is only 1MB larger than the DVD, sucks huh? O well, anyway the video compression is OK but the menu compressions look a little digitized or compressed. I am not the one to complain but I did spend hard earned cash for this program when I could have easily downloaded it from a news group or some other source online. I am going to see if there is a setting to increase the amount of space used for menu data. Other than that it is a great program.
PS3 160GB Internal Western Digital Scorpio WD1600BEVS
XBOX v1.1 with 120GB Seagate and Samsung SDG-605 --- Matrix with evox M7
PS2 39001 v7 --- Messiah 2 Pro
DJGeoJoe -d(-_-)b-
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godhead7
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8. March 2003 @ 18:55 |
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DJ, I just picked up Instant Copy. There is a $20 rebate that you can print out online. Think that you can find it at CompUSA.com
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GBHISME
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9. March 2003 @ 06:39 |
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DJGEOJOE, try using DVD Decrypter. I used that to rip the image Friday night and I burned to a DVD-R no problem, no issues about size at all. I always use the auto-size select. (I'm talking about "The Ring" here.) That is the only difference I see from your post that you did differently, that and I have the SONY DRU-500A.
GODHEAD7, you made the right choice. DVD Decrypter, with Instant Copy is better than DVDXCOPY. The "boys" down at your local store may not have used it yet.
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janderson
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9. March 2003 @ 07:56 |
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Hi Folks - I've got DVD Encrypter and Instant Copy and I must be missing something obvious. I'm ripping my DVD using Encrypter, which gives me my video_ts folder containing several vob files and 1 ifo file. I then run Instant Copygoing from hard disk to hard disk. This is where I get into trouble:
What do I select as the source? It won't let me select the folder as a whole, and selecting the ifo file doesn't seem to do it either. Also, what name(s) do I give the destination files?
I must be missing something obvious - please help me out. Thanks!
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