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23. June 2006 @ 16:42 |
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getting new mem also new HD. this one here likely. Maxtor / DiamondMax 10 / 200GB / 7200 / 8MB / SATA-300 / RoHS / OEM / Hard Drive and for mem=Ultra Dual Channel 2048MB PC4200 DDR2 533MHz Memory (2 x 1024MB)
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23. June 2006 @ 16:50 |
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i dont know what kinda power supply im gonna get or need just yet still doing my homework. im sure ill need a few fans and a cool looking tower...
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23. June 2006 @ 16:59 |
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sammorris.
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No matter what I change my PR is always fixed at one value and has never altered, not even by one, so it may not be as simple as it/s and MIPS.
Where as mine changes every time I do a benchmark!
As regards to how many of what drives. I have a 16x DVD-Rom, a 12x Burner and a 24x CDRW. i just can't see wearing out my DVD burner to burn CDs especially since CDRWs are dirt cheap! I also can't see wearing out my DVD burner playing DVDs, so I have the 16x for that.
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23. June 2006 @ 17:08 |
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23. June 2006 @ 17:08 |
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theonejrs,
mine changes too.
If the facts dont fit the theory, change the facts." -- Albert Einstein
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23. June 2006 @ 17:11 |
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yea i guess some things just need to stay the traditional way CDwriter/dvd-rom on top dvd-/+rw on bottom.the wife dont know it yet but i allready orderd the MB and CPU....
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23. June 2006 @ 17:26 |
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A lot has to do with how much burning you plan on doing!!!
If you have 2 burn everything drives they should last for years (unless they're Benq's then maybe a few days LOL!!)
If you only burn a few cd's here and there but mainly burn dvd's then I think 2 dvd/cd burners is the way to go.If you have one of each and the dvd burner throws in the towel,no more burning dvd's until you get a replacement.When my Benq died I still had my old faithful sony DRU-510A
to back me up.
If the facts dont fit the theory, change the facts." -- Albert Einstein
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23. June 2006 @ 17:43 |
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since feb i have been burning dvd's like there going out of style. just got into it.. that why im doing this build of mine getting the major big stuff first.. get the rest when i can i know i should have done it the other way wait and see if my MB and CPU prices go down. but hey its the american way...lol
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23. June 2006 @ 18:24 |
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@cincyrob,
It does'nt matter how long you wait for prices to go down,it will always be cheaper the day after you buy it.Thats just the way it works!!
If the facts dont fit the theory, change the facts." -- Albert Einstein
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23. June 2006 @ 19:09 |
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crowy,
I look at the DVD thing from an economical standpoint. You can buy 3 decent 16x DVD-Roms for what it costs to buy one decent DVD Burner. I wouldn't ever burn 2 DVDs at the same time on 2 different drives as DVD Burners get very hot while burning. Not only that, one tiny timing error and you get at least one Coaster! And you won't even know it until it's all burned. I have a copy of "Matilda" in 1/2" block format to prove it. The whole movie from about 10 minutes in is like that. It looks like the censorship they put on certain adult places, except the entire screen is that way. I went back and burned the same files again and the movie was perfect!
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GigaByte 990FXA-UD5 - AMD FX-8320 @4.0GHz @1.312v - Corsair H-60 liquid CPU Cooler - 4x4 GB GSkill RipJaws DDR3/1866 Cas8, 8-9-9-24 - Corsair 400-R Case - OCZ FATAL1TY 550 watt Modular PSU - Intel 330 120GB SATA III SSD - WD Black 500GB SATA III - WD black 1 TB Sata III - WD Black 500GB SATA II - 2 Asus DRW-24B1ST DVD-Burner - Sony 420W 5.1 PL-II Suround Sound - GigaByte GTX550/1GB 970 Mhz Video - Asus VE247H 23.6" HDMI 1080p Monitor
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23. June 2006 @ 19:14 |
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sammorris..Well thanks..But their must be something wrong then,cause it sure is running at a really noticeable slower pace..Just renaming a file take about 20secs,while D/L W/Bitcomet,another promlem is opening VLC,TAKES ABOUT A MIN to open[no picture],then I have to hit the back bttn to get a Video..Also while converting AVItoDVD W/DIVXtoDVD,Won't let me access the internet [timed out,try again appears]sometimes,opening E-Mail or changeing sites forget it!.Never had such problems W/my older Brd
I don't know if I did the right thing or not!But I D/L CoolRun frm AMD,SCARED ME AT FIRST,thought I really screwed it up.Knocked my CPU back to 933MHz,until I started useing it then it jumped back to 1.8GHz.DON'T REALLY KNOW IF THIS IS GOOD or BAD.
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23. June 2006 @ 19:27 |
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@theonejrs,
I think you misunderstood me.
I have never burned 2 dvd's at the same time either,1 Coaster is better than 2.I don't think thats what cincyrob was wanting to do either.
What I'm saying is if you have 1 dvd burner and it fails,your stuck until you get a new one
If the facts dont fit the theory, change the facts." -- Albert Einstein
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23. June 2006 @ 20:34 |
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crowy,
I have to admit, you have a valid point. Sometimes I forget that I stock DVD-Roms and DVD Burners. Right now I have 3 Emprex 16x DVD-Roms and 2 Optorite 12x Burners available. The DVD-Roms are decent quality and I'll keep buying the Optorite DD1205 for as long as I can get them. It's a great drive that also does Hi-Density CDs at 1400MB/160 minutes on 700/80s! I've had mine more than a year and it's burned everything I threw at it! This computer is it's third home!!!
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theonejrs
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23. June 2006 @ 22:32 |
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boxwrench
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I just checked the tracking numbers sent by Newegg and it appears Monday should be the arrival day for the board and case.
I hope your expecting company,I should be there soon!
Good for you and good luck! By august you will be wanting more!
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23. June 2006 @ 23:17 |
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By august you will be wanting more!
Why wait till August? I have not even started this project and I seek more! lol! I realized this evening that I had already used the memory planned for this build in my wife's computer,so I was forced to purchase some more low latency Corsair ram.This unfortunatly will delay my testing until Wednesday.
Will this madness ever cease? Let's hope not!
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24. June 2006 @ 00:14 |
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The madness will never cease! By the time you build this, the conroe will be out and.....your build will be history
p-4 3.2 prescott HT curently at 3.6/Abit IC7-G (Abit rule!)/2 Gig Mushkin extream 2.5-2-2-6
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24. June 2006 @ 02:36 |
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Everyone,
Is'nt this a beautiful looking (albeit heavy)cooler?
It basically knocks the s**t out of everything its put against.That mid fan design obviously works.
Still saving!!
$79 AUS.
http://www.tuniq.com.tw/Cooler%20Info/Tower-120.htm
Check out the box cooler in an overclock environment it can't operate!
Yet at 2000rpm in an overclock environment the tuniq is running 8 degrees cooler than the stock heatsink in a non overclock environment
and 1 degree cooler at 1000 rpm.
Thats awesome!!!!
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24. June 2006 @ 02:45 |
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24. June 2006 @ 02:59 |
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Just one more!!
If the facts dont fit the theory, change the facts." -- Albert Einstein
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24. June 2006 @ 03:07 |
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Where's FIHSNERD?
Have'nt heard from him in a while??
Miss his humorous posts!!
If the facts dont fit the theory, change the facts." -- Albert Einstein
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24. June 2006 @ 03:20 |
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Heh, "Have" is a loose term. "Bought" is currently more appropriate!
My PR may not change because i'm not altering any settings pertaining to FSB etc. I've tested when there's been different loads on the CPU at the time, giving different MIPS, but the PR has always been the same.
Ahh, so that's what the Tuniq i've been hearing so much about looks like.
Heh, I miss FIHSNERD too. Maybe his dad's blocked his access to aD finally, I dunno.
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24. June 2006 @ 03:25 |
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@sammorris,
Maybe his dad tried to get into cmos and the password was wrong!!!
If the facts dont fit the theory, change the facts." -- Albert Einstein
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24. June 2006 @ 04:16 |
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@crowy
Ha! Just what I thought you'd do. Bring out clockspeed intensive tasks. If you have ever actually used a Non-D Celeron you might agree that they are way underpowered. The average budget user isn't going to care if they have to wait a few more minutes to encode/decode video and stuff.
Screw the memory bandwidth, real world performance is where it's at bucko! That Sempron 3100+ performed(especially in games) like a Pentium 4 2.8E GHz. We are talking a budget solution here. You aren't ever going to build a rig meant for heavy video work with a $77 processor. That is actually what the higher grade P4's are meant for, intensive tasks. Trust me, I've done my homework on the budget sector.
And guys, I know that memory timings are very important to performance. I just meant that everyone stopped for a split second and kind of blabbered off a short explaination that only partly answered the guy's question. And then you just went back to your other stuff like he disappeared. This community is made for discussion, but also for help. So no insult to memory enthusiasts out there.
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24. June 2006 @ 04:23 |
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@Estuansis,
So why are celerons an insult then?bucko??
Sounds like you may have failed on your homework on the budget sector.
If the facts dont fit the theory, change the facts." -- Albert Einstein
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24. June 2006 @ 06:31 |
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Heh, then he'd really be screwed!
The trouble is, it's not all that easy to get a good idea of how good the celeron CPU is, because it's usually paired with not enough RAM, it makes a slow computer. The CPU isn't too bad, but the usual 256MB of accompanying RAM is what does the damage. Anyone who's had a system like this upped to 512 or more should know that the celeron isn't too bad, and have a completely different opinion of it compared to others. Semprons are probably much the same, but the 64-bit variants tend to be found with 512MB now, especially the 3100+ so it's not as easy to compare, other than by, say numbers, which is why the benches that were posted are still useful.
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