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2. December 2006 @ 10:18 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
ya...me too...my friend is wrong...

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i c that u hav a 20.1" monitor...View Sonic-VP2030b 20.1"LCD 1600x1200 res.8ms Respone Timecan tell me how much is it...

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2. December 2006 @ 10:41 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I know the R600 will have GDDR4, but wasn't sure about the 8800GTX. Sure enough from an OcUK sales page:
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768MB GDDR3 Memory running at 1800MHz
Then I wonder what nVidia can make of some GDDR4!
The Vp2030's currently out of stock here, but nonethless it is on that site:
http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDet...ductCode=231796
$430. It costs that much in pounds here...



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2. December 2006 @ 11:02 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
The 8900GTX will have GDDR 4 on it not the 8800GTX.

As for the long awaited AMD 4x4 offering which was going to kick the Intel?s back into second place, well here are the first stats I've seen for a tested setup, with a summary quote from the Hexus article.

I know this is very early and scores will improve with a better BIOS etc..., but it doesn't look good for AMD, there new all conquering CPU doesn't look as though it's going to win any contests!!
BIOS improvements are also getting more and more out of the Intel's as well.

http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=7348&page=1

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We haven't fully tested megatasking or Windows Vista yet, so we don't want to definitively say Quad FX has had its bottom whipped by Intel's Core 2 Extreme QX6700. We should also wait until AMD and ASUS have fixed the NUMA issues in the L1N64-SLIWS mainboard BIOS before making an absolute declaration. But there were few areas in our testing so far where AMD's new quad-core platform came even close to Intel's with this pre-production preview system, despite the potential technical superiority of the platform.




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2. December 2006 @ 11:11 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Yes, depending on the performance/price ratio I'm eventually going to exhaust my bank account and do a complete upgrade to an X2 5600 or a Conroe build and An 8800GTX or R600. I'd for once like to have a fully up to date system for a while :)

I'll be on the lookout for AMD's new processor though. I'm waiting to see if their new quad core is going to be any better than the XQ6700 or not. And I wonder if there'll be any new series on AM2 or if AM2 was a retarded move on AMD's part just to use faster RAM. I wonder because they've got ANOTHER new socket coming out for the dual quad optys.



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The FX-74 IS a total letdown, but then it's based on the same old technology which Core 2 Duos beat hands down last time, so it doesn't really come as a surprise to me. When Barcelona arrives, THAT's when I want to compare 4x4 to Intel's solution. An eight core dual Barcelona Opteron system should be incredible. Can intel match it?



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2. December 2006 @ 11:30 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
how many years since Intel and AMD started fighting each other with their cpu...of course intel will find a new technology to defeat AMD...and thats good it lowers older cpu's price...but damn...8 core duel...that must be fast...

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2. December 2006 @ 12:46 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
GTR35 , i payed about 600.00 dollars for it at the time but looks like its around 500.00 dollars now heres a link

http://viewsonic.com/products/desktopdis...series/vp2030b/

i googled some site and it looks like its around 440.00 to 475.00 great deal for this nice of an LCD

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2. December 2006 @ 21:58 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by sammorris:
I haven't come across a fanboy have I? I don't claim to be a fanboy, but in the past instances, the best products for me have been ATi and AMD products. Had I chosen to upgrade my PC in August of this year rather than earlier I may well have gone with a Core 2 Duo since they are clearly better, and indeed, for the best graphics performance now I have to recommend an 8800GTX, but I couldn't get one as it wouldn't fit in my case, which I am definitely not replacing!

What case would it fit into?

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2. December 2006 @ 22:48 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
i will sell you my Lian Li , i am sure the card would fix inside
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2. December 2006 @ 23:22 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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thnx for the link...yes the Lian Li is a full tower so it would be able to fit any card...

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3. December 2006 @ 01:41 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
The issue is of course how close the hard disk rack is to the PCI express 16x slots, my X1900XT only has about 1" of clearance from my hard disk drives... Since the 8800GTX is two inches longer it wouldn't fit. Hopefully the R600 will be shorter.



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3. December 2006 @ 01:48 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
not sure...ATI graphics card r noisy...beacuse of the fan?...

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3. December 2006 @ 01:51 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
They used to be, the X1900XT is, but from the X1950 series onwards they use HIS' ICEQ cooler, which is much quieter.



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3. December 2006 @ 01:57 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
oh ok...i'm not ATI user...well...ATI GPU r huge...the cooling and the fans...some not all...

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3. December 2006 @ 02:01 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
My X1800XT is using a dual slot cooler almost exactly the same as the one on my X850XT. It's very loud when turned up to 100%. Almost like a hairdryer. But my case is fairly noisy already. 3 120mm fans and that X1800XT... But it never bothers me because I'm so used to it. I game with some nice Sennheiser 5.1 headphones that block it out quite nicely :)



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3. December 2006 @ 04:29 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
hahaha...like hairdryer...thats interesting...

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3. December 2006 @ 10:10 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Actually they do sound very similar. Someone on my corridor at university used a hairdryer and I thought my PC had rebooted and the fan got turned up. LOL. I have 3 120mm fans and an 80 in addition to the CPU, GPU and PSU, but when the system's at idle initially, it's pretty much silent bar the graphics card fan which I can turn off for sort periods of time using ATiTool. The 8800GTX is the biggest card of all...



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3. December 2006 @ 10:20 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
LOL...loud GPU...the fan must be cooling the GPU down like hell

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3. December 2006 @ 10:32 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
It needs to, they push out a lot of heat!



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3. December 2006 @ 10:34 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
if 1900-series r that loud i wonder how loud would R600 be...

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3. December 2006 @ 10:47 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
A lot quieter because they use better fans



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3. December 2006 @ 11:05 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
oh ok...how big is 8800GTX size compare to R600?...

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3. December 2006 @ 11:08 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
It's 11" long, R600 should be just over the 9" size of the X1900s...



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3. December 2006 @ 11:24 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
holy..11"...thats long for a graphics card...doesn't look like it can fit into a mid-tower...

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3. December 2006 @ 11:34 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
It can't, hence why I can't use one.



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