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redice
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23. March 2007 @ 20:31 |
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Originally posted by Mort81:
@redice,
Ah so you need vga connector. Most dvi cards come with a dvi to AVG adaptor. This card http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814143087 did have a $20 mir last week. It is 420mhz core clock as opposed to std 400mhz. Time to upgrade to a digital monitor :)
A buddy of mine got that exact same case you're getting. I persuaded him to go with the black since I already had the brushed aluminum. Only thing I don't like about it is the power and hdd leds on top are blue instead of orange like the led on the front shutters. No biggie. All my leds are blue.
He also got that exact psu and I don't think the fans have leds like the blue one does. Regardless, I haven't had any problems with my hiper psu.
Edit: That card I linked to may be a new model (no reviews) but they did have a bfg 7600GS 420mhz core clock on special. I think greensman got one.
so thats a better video card then the one i had picked.also yes i do believe that its time to go to a digital monitor but this is for a family member that wants to see use there old monitor.
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23. March 2007 @ 20:40 |
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just a tad faster is all. it's not on sale though and you won't notice enough difference to justify the extra cost.
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23. March 2007 @ 20:45 |
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ok well let me ask you this would you pay the extra money for alittle bit faster card? also what kind of cord is need to hook up a mintor that has dvi to a dvi video card?
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23. March 2007 @ 20:50 |
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just a DVI cable
but don't get stood up on one(70.00 dollars no no) you can pick one up for about 20 dollars
matter of fact i have an extra one i would let go cheap. if your interrested PM me
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redice
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23. March 2007 @ 21:00 |
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do you have link to this cable?
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23. March 2007 @ 21:09 |
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23. March 2007 @ 21:16 |
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redice,
the card i was thinking of (the one greensman got and the one that was on sale) was a bfg 7600GT i'm pretty sure instead of the 7600GS.
Rig #1 Asus Rampage Formula Mobo, Intel Core2Quad Q9450 CPU @ 3.55ghz, 2gb Corsair DDR2 1066 Dominator Ram @ 5-5-5-15, TR Ultra 120 Extreme w/ Scythe 9 blade 110 cfm 120mm Fan HSF, HIS Radeon 512mb HD3850 IceQ TurboX GPU, Corsair 620HX P/S, CM Stacker 830 Evo Case, Rig #2 Asus P5W DH Deluxe Mobo, Intel C2D E6600 CPU @ 3.6ghz, 2gb Corsair XMS2 DDR2 800 Ram @ 4-4-4-12-2t, Zalman CNPS9500LED HSF, Sapphire Radeon X850XT PE GPU, Corsair 620HX P/S, Cooler Master Mystique Case, Viewsonic 20.1" Widescreen Digital LCD Monitor, Klipsch Promedia Ultra 5.1 THX Desktop Speakers, http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=348351 http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=236435 |
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23. March 2007 @ 21:27 |
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23. March 2007 @ 21:35 |
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redice,
that looks like the one. faster core clock and memory clock. look at the pics. it has vga adaptors for both connectors.
Rig #1 Asus Rampage Formula Mobo, Intel Core2Quad Q9450 CPU @ 3.55ghz, 2gb Corsair DDR2 1066 Dominator Ram @ 5-5-5-15, TR Ultra 120 Extreme w/ Scythe 9 blade 110 cfm 120mm Fan HSF, HIS Radeon 512mb HD3850 IceQ TurboX GPU, Corsair 620HX P/S, CM Stacker 830 Evo Case, Rig #2 Asus P5W DH Deluxe Mobo, Intel C2D E6600 CPU @ 3.6ghz, 2gb Corsair XMS2 DDR2 800 Ram @ 4-4-4-12-2t, Zalman CNPS9500LED HSF, Sapphire Radeon X850XT PE GPU, Corsair 620HX P/S, Cooler Master Mystique Case, Viewsonic 20.1" Widescreen Digital LCD Monitor, Klipsch Promedia Ultra 5.1 THX Desktop Speakers, http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=348351 http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=236435 |
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redice
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23. March 2007 @ 21:41 |
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yes i seen them. thats y : i asked it has the dvi to AVG adaptors so it can be used with the older mintor right?
its also out of stock
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23. March 2007 @ 23:53 |
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Hello again I'm thinking about building my first PC (very slowly)
I think the first thing in this thread should of been a list of all the parts needed to build a Pc. So I'm going to give it a try tell me if I missed anything.
1.Computer Case
2.MotherBoard
3.processor
4.DVD/CD Drives
5.Ram (Ram sinks optional)
6.A Monitor
7.Mouse/Keyboard/Speakers
8.A OS
9.A Heat sink fan
10.Hard drive
11.Power supply
12.Video card
13.Sound Card
14.Rear exhaust fan
15.A Fan or two inside + Grills (depending on your case)
16.A HDD Fan (optional)
17.wired or wireless ethernet card
18.A Round Ide cable to hook to the hard drive
19.another Ide cable to hook up the DVD/CD Drives
20.Floppy drive + Ide cable (optional)
(I don't understand SATA I did not get that far yet)
21.Fan controller (optional)
22.Lights (optional)
I don't even no how to go about Hooking up my front panal,USB ports mic jack etc.
What do I all need for that.
Does the Power and reset Button cable's come with the case?
If I missed anything Please Help me out and let me know
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24. March 2007 @ 00:45 |
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With your raid question.
Firstly your motherboard must support raid, I presume you already know it does.
Secondly it then depends on whether you are doing a clean install with the two drives as the primary drive, then you will need to have some way of loading the drivers at install.
If you are adding them as additional storage, then you just add the drivers to the operating system as you would any other drivers.
You also have the option to add these drivers with the drives as additional storage, and then by using Acronis True image, make these drives the primary storgae and copy the os to them (along with the drivers) you then can set them up as primary drives without a floppy.
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24. March 2007 @ 01:48 |
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Originally posted by BigDK:
...copy the os to them (along with the drivers) you then can set them up as primary drives without a floppy.
realy? you learn somthing new everyday, thats what keeps me coming back to these threads.
you might just of saved me some cash and the trouble of messing up the inside of my case.
nice1 bigdk.
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24. March 2007 @ 02:49 |
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Posted Twice...Don't know why...
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24. March 2007 @ 02:51 |
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Your List...
From Newegg:
SILVERSTONE TJ07-S Silver 2.0mm Aluminum body ATX Full Tower Computer Case -
Retail $299
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PC Power & Cooling Silencer 750 Quad - Copper EPS12V 750W Continuous @ 40°C (825W Peak) Power Supply -
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EVGA 640-P2-N821-AR GeForce 8800GTS 640MB GDDR3 PCI Express x16 HDCP Video Card -
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From DIRECTRON:
eVGA 122-CK-NF68-A1 LGA775 Motherboard, nForce 680i SLI Chipset, Supports Intel Core 2 Extreme / Core 2 Quad / Core 2 Duo CPUs, Dual DDR2 1200
Retail $249.99
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Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 250GB Hard Drive, SATA 3Gb/s, 16MB Cache, 7200 RPM, Model: ST3250620AS.
OEM (2)$145.98
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Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 500GB Hard Drive, SATA 3Gb/s, 16MB Cache, 7200 RPM, ST3500630AS.
OEM (4) $579.96
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Black Lite-On IDE 18X DVD Burner LH-18A1P-186, 8X DVD+/-R DL, 8X DVD+RW, 6X DVD-RW, 12X DVD-RAM,
Retail $32.99
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Black Lite-On 52x32x52x CD-RW & 16X DVD Combo Drive, Model: LH-52C1P-186,
OEM $23.99
http://www.directron.com/lh52c1p.html
Black Sony 1.44MB 3.5inch Internal Floppy Drives, MPF920-1,
OEM $7.99
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From SVC:
Sunbeam SP-SI 5.25" Silver 20-in-1 Superior Panel Memory Card Reader with I/O and Fan Controller
Retail $28.99
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Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro CPU Cooler for LGA775
(I have never used this personally...but have heard good thing about it)
Retail $21.99
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Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound - 3.5 gram Tube (Free First Class Shipping)
Retail $5.99
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From Zipzoomfly:
OCZ OCZ2N1066SR2GK 2GB Kit DDR2 PC2-8500 SLI?-Ready Edition Dual Channel Memory Retail ***Free Shipping***
Retail (2) $478.00 $60 Mail in Rebate $418.00
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Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 Conroe Processor 2.4GHz, 1066FSB, LGA775, 4MB Cache Retail ***Free Shipping***
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GRAND TOTAL $2,598 With out Tax and Shipping...After Rebates...If I did not miss calculate...Its Late...So re-check my Math...
I Forgot the Items from Zipzoomfly...New Total...
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24. March 2007 @ 03:43 |
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Originally posted by NINVIN21:
I don't even no how to go about Hooking up my front panal,USB ports mic jack etc.
What do I all need for that.
Does the Power and reset Button cable's come with the case?
Thats the fun part. Every case is different, and every mobo is different so you cant just say "one way works for all".
I've never seen a case that didnt come with wires for the front panel inputs or buttons. I had one case that didnt come with any connectors, just individually labeled wires that I had to trace back and say "Oh these are from this button so they must go here." I had another case where the wires were already in a connector, but not in the proper order to match the pins on my mobo, I took the offending wires out of the connector put them back in the right way then snapped the connector on the mobo pins and all was fine.
What is needed is the mobo manual for help seeing the name of each individual pin. It shows where the pin groups are and what each pin does. Its not hard, you just may need the manual if you havent done it 100x already.
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sarthak14
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24. March 2007 @ 04:16 |
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Thanks LP531
Will Have a Look into it when i come back.
Btw i wnt be able to reply before 27th. And ya il be building one so myself with the help of your list. i do have some questions bt ill ask them on the 27th. Thanks again man.
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pszczoll
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24. March 2007 @ 05:38 |
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.rE. memory issue .rE.
so you think that memory is gonna be enough?. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...TT=SystemMemory
what if im would like to oc cpu and im gonna get e6600 i heard that when you oc that cpu u need to change fbs or something and when you change that the memory is being overclocked to, so im not sure if those corsairs are gonna be enough i know that they would work on pc without any oc.
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24. March 2007 @ 07:21 |
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The E6600 CPU has a standard fsb of 266 with a multiplier of x9 giving you 2.4GHz.
That means you will need DDR533 memory to run the memory on a 1:1 multiplier.
So with the DDR800 (2x400) you have another 134Mhz FSB to add before you get the point where the DDR800 memory is even running at it's rated speed.
400x9 CPU 3.6GHZ
400x2 Memory DDR800
Therefore unless you expect to push a long way past 3.6GHz you'll be fine with the DDR800.
The DDR800 will also OC to a certain point, I've had mine running at 900 without any issues at all, you need to relax the timings ir 4-4-4-12 becomes 5-5-5-15 at the higher speed, and you may need more voltage 2.1V become 2.2V but it will work (all memory is different though) some OC's better than others.
So now with the memory likely to reach DDR900 when OC'd, you could set the CPU to 450x8 still 3.6 GHz or 450x9 4.05Ghz (not recommended on air though) and very rare for an E6600 to get to that (especially with the newer batches).
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pszczoll
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24. March 2007 @ 08:39 |
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Ty BigDK . Im gonna take those corsairs and when im gonna get all parts, and start build it im gonna make an post here to get some help and not mest up.
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24. March 2007 @ 11:34 |
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No problem.
I'll also do some pics and post to an area on my website with the information.
You'll be able to link directly to it then and check any details you need.
I'll PM you the details if you're interested.
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24. March 2007 @ 11:46 |
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@sarthak14
No problem...Good Luck on your test's...
I loved taking test's in school...Just part of my Nature...
I would go in all pumped up...talking trash at the test...
I would order the components from Newegg...before the sale ends...
Especially the Video Card...$329 for a 8800GTS is a very good price...I think I am going to pull the trigger...and get one my self...
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25. March 2007 @ 17:00 |
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BigDK you got web site? Is it about pc hardware?
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25. March 2007 @ 23:49 |
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It's only my own personal site.
Mainly got it to practice web publishing, and for somewhere to keep records of what I'm up to.
It's only been up for a few weeks, so is still in the early stages, I've got held up as my backup was on my RAID on the DQ6, and as thats down, I've had to just do a backup from remote to local on the other PC and the files have gotten slightly corrupted, working my way through tidying them up before I finally get back on track.
Eventually I'll post as may useful links and as much information on there as I can.
Stuff like water-cooling, modding and software setup that I've used.
I've also just ordered my Chilly1 phase cooler, so I'll put an area on there that shows how I build it and then set it up.
Hopefully it will help people who want to go down the same route, a there are plenty of posts on other sites, but they tend to miss out on a lot of the info that firt time users need to make the decisions.
Finally got around to doing a full stability test on my P5WDH at 3.6 GHz so I could post the results as official for the Conroe OC database.
Trouble has always been finding time to just let Orthos run solid for 8 hours.
Anyway did it yesterday 8Hr 10Min 100% x2 cores Orthos, passed without any problems, max core temp was 65`C.
I've had this setup stable to 3.915Ghz but never run Orthos for 8 Hours due to high temps, when i start to hit 70+`C I don't like leaving the PC running that long (short time is okay) or even PCMark etc... is fine but Orthos just cooks it.
Plus I had a little help from some extra cooling fans I got hold of on friday.
P5B Deluxe should turn up on Tuesday, Phase cooler could be between 14-21 days as they are made to order.
Also ordered EK NB/SB chipset coolers and EK Mosfet coolers.
So new system will have phase cooled CPU, water-cooled Chipsets, Mosfets and GPU.
I've also got some 240V high speed fans which I've added to radiator, they'll sit there powered off for normal use, when I'll just run the Akasa Ambers, then when I'm benching they'll be powered up and the extra grunt will make the noise worth while. I wouldn't want to use them all the time.
At 3.6GHz idle when I switched them on yesterday the core temps dropped from 31`C to 26/27`C which shows just how powerful they are.
They cost £25 each normally, but I got them through work out of one of the equipment racks (perks of the job).
The P5WDH/E4300 combo will have a water-cooled CPU, as I'll transfer the Storm block from this setup to that, but I'll have to order another rad for that, but that will probably just be a single rad.
Eventually when I change the 7900GTX out of my main rig, it will do into the second rig and I'll just add it to the loop.
I'll then do some proper benching of the E4300 and post those details.
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26. March 2007 @ 11:42 |
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@anyone
Does having over 256MB of video memory actually yield any performance gains, for the everyday user, average gamer? In the not so distant past I remember reading reviews that showed even 256MB had minimal to no gain over a 128MB card with identical GPUs.
I noticed that Newegg has a 8800GTS 320MB for $259.99 after MIR. versus the 640MB variant @ $329.99 after MIR.
Would there be much difference in these two cards?
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