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5. July 2007 @ 08:11 |
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rick5446
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5. July 2007 @ 10:53 |
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Men are from Mars
Women are from Venus
Wonder where Jinkazuya is from
No disrespect intended but it seems their is no common sense here,or questions are being asked by an extremely young person,who might have difficulty in reading spec sheets
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5. July 2007 @ 11:04 |
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I think that's a little unkind, I just think you should do a bit of research yourself Jinkazuya, rather than expecting us to do it. There are however far fewer pitfalls today then there were even a single year ago.
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Jinkazuya
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5. July 2007 @ 11:28 |
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I think I will do some research...Thanks for all the help anyway.
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senseitx
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5. July 2007 @ 11:51 |
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5. July 2007 @ 12:14 |
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5. July 2007 @ 12:23 |
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It's awesome. Can you stretch to a Dell 2407FPW? That will kick far more ass than a 22", and will actually make good use of a PC that powerful.
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5. July 2007 @ 12:47 |
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looks like an awesome setup. only suggestions I can make is maybe upgrade the cpu hsf to a zalman 9700led or thermalright ultra 120 extreme (you need a 120mm fan if you go with the thermalright.
also personally I don't think any desktop pc speakers sound better than klipsch
Rig #1 Asus Rampage Formula Mobo, Intel Core2Quad Q9450 CPU @ 3.55ghz, 2gb Corsair DDR2 1066 Dominator Ram @ 5-5-5-15, TR Ultra 120 Extreme w/ Scythe 9 blade 110 cfm 120mm Fan HSF, HIS Radeon 512mb HD3850 IceQ TurboX GPU, Corsair 620HX P/S, CM Stacker 830 Evo Case, Rig #2 Asus P5W DH Deluxe Mobo, Intel C2D E6600 CPU @ 3.6ghz, 2gb Corsair XMS2 DDR2 800 Ram @ 4-4-4-12-2t, Zalman CNPS9500LED HSF, Sapphire Radeon X850XT PE GPU, Corsair 620HX P/S, Cooler Master Mystique Case, Viewsonic 20.1" Widescreen Digital LCD Monitor, Klipsch Promedia Ultra 5.1 THX Desktop Speakers, http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=348351 http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=236435 |
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5. July 2007 @ 13:14 |
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My Z-5500s are rated for the same sort of output, around 120dB max, but above 110dB the tweeters are completely unresponsive since they're phase plugs, so for volume quality when it really gets loud the Klipsch unit may be slightly superior. A Dual driver subwoofer? How does that work?
Personally I'm very fond of my speakers. I don't recommend them to anyone else because they have a fundamental design flaw with the shielding. However, at home the problem is almost non-existent compared to university, where I'd get pops very often indeed.
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5. July 2007 @ 13:22 |
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6. July 2007 @ 00:21 |
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Ugh, I dislike both of those Xclio ones, in fact to be quite honest I'm not a fan of any! lol
All personal taste I suppose.
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6. July 2007 @ 05:01 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
Ugh, I dislike both of those Xclio ones, in fact to be quite honest I'm not a fan of any! lol
All personal taste I suppose.
YOU do realize that those cases weren't for you. :P
He just seemed to want something with LOTS of wind and that's what I provided. ;) Tried get some with better "reviews", like they matter. ;D
I like this case but prolly won't get it on my next build. :P DON'T make fun of me cause I like the color. hehehe.
...gm
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6. July 2007 @ 08:11 |
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The total airflow of an Antec 900 is higher, as is that of a lot of cases. Just because the fans are big doesn't mean they push loads of air. I know they weren't for me, but I was just pointing out they're fugly.
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6spdSER
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6. July 2007 @ 09:31 |
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sam,
thanks for the feedback. After reading some reviews on the board at T.H.G. it appears that the Gigabyte board and many uATX boards don't OC all that well. Does the "G" 965 hinder OC'ing by that much, as opposed to the "P?" Could it potentially be heat related since the "G" has built in onboard graphics? Aside from chipset, I guess manufacturers don't think many will OC on a uATX platform. Bummer!! Oh you recommended the Gigabyte GA-965P-S3 to Jink. Do you own or have you worked with one? I've been reading good things about it, but just want some personal feedback.
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6. July 2007 @ 10:10 |
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I only recommended it on the strength of the DS3, it seems similar in construction, but you'd have to disable the integrated graphics.
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6. July 2007 @ 11:04 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
The total airflow of an Antec 900 is higher, as is that of a lot of cases. Just because the fans are big doesn't mean they push loads of air. I know they weren't for me, but I was just pointing out they're fugly.
OH NO you're right, "PRETTY" wasn't in their description. lol. I also like the Antec 900 case and as you said it pushes tons of air. :) btw that's the one I'm looking at for my next build. :D
I think there's a Thermaltake case like the 900 but I can't remember which one it is. It may be the one I linked too. :P Sleep or lack of it is catching up with me.
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6. July 2007 @ 11:48 |
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I still like my CM Mystique case even though air flow isn't the best. I can't complain about my temps though with only 2 120mm case fans. the front running at 1700 rpm and the rear running at 1200 rpm. I still think it is one of the better looking cases.
I'll never go back to a metal case and I'm sold on the true tooless design.
Rig #1 Asus Rampage Formula Mobo, Intel Core2Quad Q9450 CPU @ 3.55ghz, 2gb Corsair DDR2 1066 Dominator Ram @ 5-5-5-15, TR Ultra 120 Extreme w/ Scythe 9 blade 110 cfm 120mm Fan HSF, HIS Radeon 512mb HD3850 IceQ TurboX GPU, Corsair 620HX P/S, CM Stacker 830 Evo Case, Rig #2 Asus P5W DH Deluxe Mobo, Intel C2D E6600 CPU @ 3.6ghz, 2gb Corsair XMS2 DDR2 800 Ram @ 4-4-4-12-2t, Zalman CNPS9500LED HSF, Sapphire Radeon X850XT PE GPU, Corsair 620HX P/S, Cooler Master Mystique Case, Viewsonic 20.1" Widescreen Digital LCD Monitor, Klipsch Promedia Ultra 5.1 THX Desktop Speakers, http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=348351 http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=236435This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 6. July 2007 @ 13:48
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senseitx
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6. July 2007 @ 12:59 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
It's awesome. Can you stretch to a Dell 2407FPW? That will kick far more ass than a 22", and will actually make good use of a PC that powerful.
Probably not. While I am up over 5000 depending on the values I can find the Samsung is big enough for me now at a reasonable price. I do have an older pc so I may eventually buy a bigger monitor and just move them on down.
Originally posted by Mort81:
looks like an awesome setup. only suggestions I can make is maybe upgrade the cpu hsf to a zalman 9700led or thermalright ultra 120 extreme (you need a 120mm fan if you go with the thermalright.
also personally I don't think any desktop pc speakers sound better than klipsch
Yeah I may go with the zalman 9700 instead. I have gone back and forth so many times I forget where I end up at. The 9700 is 30mm bigger and only 6.00 more so that looks to be a good choice.
Originally posted by greensman:
senseitx,
I'm gonna give you some other cases to look at. :) NOT that the one you chose is bad, I like the features of these others as well. :) Take a look at the different links. ;)
Enermax Uber Chakra
XCLIO Windtunnel
XCLIO A380PLUS
Thermaltake Armor Series VA8003SWA Same as the case you chose but Aluminum.
...gm
Thanks for the sugestions. I think ill stick with my choice though. The 2 xclio's and enermax just don't do it for me :). And i like the black over the silver thermaltake(being 60.00 cheaper also helps)
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6. July 2007 @ 17:46 |
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@6spdSER
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Does the "G" 965 hinder OC'ing by that much, as opposed to the "P?" Could it potentially be heat related since the "G" has built in onboard graphics?
I have the GA-965p-S3...and my friend has the G...The P model definetly OC's better then the G...even with the on board graphics turned off and a card installed...No comparision...
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LP, your build's high spec, but the cost of RAM is wrong (it's $320 or more), and it uses loads of different stores, which adds to confusion along with lots of delivery charges. Sticking to one retailer like I did would be better.
No Sam the memory is now $335 for 4gigs...It was $198 when I posted it..:) One of the best deals I have recently seen...I'm kicking myself for not pulling the trigger...and picking up 4gigs..:( it was with No-rebates...NO Tax...NO Shipping...
I only list reputable dealers that I have had first hand experince with...One stop shopping maybe the easiest but it is not the cheapest...especially at Newegg...Newegg plays to many games with sale prices and shipping...I do not consider them to be the only place to shop...Newegg gives zero discounts on shipping multiple items...So therefore you save Nothing by buying only from Newegg...
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7. July 2007 @ 02:03 |
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But what about other shops, surely it's not the same there? I don't know about you but I'd rather not have 10 separate deliveries for a PC build.
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7. July 2007 @ 02:39 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
But what about other shops, surely it's not the same there? I don't know about you but I'd rather not have 10 separate deliveries for a PC build.
That would be painful!!!!
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7. July 2007 @ 04:40 |
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It was only 4 retailers not 10...and it saved over $300 not counting tax and ship differences which saves even more...
All I am saying it can be significantly cheaper to buy from more then one source...Newegg isn't the only quality retailer around...with a little bit of shopping around you can build a much better PC for the same price as shopping only at Newegg...
I live in California so everything at Newegg is roughlly 8% more then the price listed because of sales tax...yet I receive No break on shipping even though they can ship to me cheaper because of distance...Newegg is notorious for playing Games with Prices and Shipping...one week memory is $99 with $30 shipping...the next week it is $129 with Free Shipping...Its nothing but deceptive advertising...I still buy alot of product from Newegg...however I watch and see their deceptive practices...
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7. July 2007 @ 20:55 |
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8. July 2007 @ 04:34 |
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mikeh0303,
talk him into this memory or some other memory that is cas 4 instead of cas 5 like you listed.
try and talk him into a video card similiar to this 7600GT
Rig #1 Asus Rampage Formula Mobo, Intel Core2Quad Q9450 CPU @ 3.55ghz, 2gb Corsair DDR2 1066 Dominator Ram @ 5-5-5-15, TR Ultra 120 Extreme w/ Scythe 9 blade 110 cfm 120mm Fan HSF, HIS Radeon 512mb HD3850 IceQ TurboX GPU, Corsair 620HX P/S, CM Stacker 830 Evo Case, Rig #2 Asus P5W DH Deluxe Mobo, Intel C2D E6600 CPU @ 3.6ghz, 2gb Corsair XMS2 DDR2 800 Ram @ 4-4-4-12-2t, Zalman CNPS9500LED HSF, Sapphire Radeon X850XT PE GPU, Corsair 620HX P/S, Cooler Master Mystique Case, Viewsonic 20.1" Widescreen Digital LCD Monitor, Klipsch Promedia Ultra 5.1 THX Desktop Speakers, http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=348351 http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=236435 |
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8. July 2007 @ 04:38 |
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Mike it looks like you did some homework but make sure that Muskin Ram is compatible with the ASUS board. I can't remember but there is a couple of combos that DON'T like each other. :)
I was gonna say see Cancomputers.com buy it's under construction. Just for price comparisons. I've talked to a few Canadians that shop there BUT it seems that the online retailer you're "buying" from is GOOD! ;)
Change on GPU for $6 more. link to XFX 8400
Suggestion to WD HDD cause I'm a fanboy. :P link to WD 320 SATAII
Thermaltake PSU for $1 more
I thought these "changes" would make your puter a little bit better IMO. ;) More power for a $1 and the BIGGER GPU for $6 seemed like good ideas to me. :) GOOD luck with your build! :)
...gm
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