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25. July 2007 @ 13:01 |
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I should of started looking awhile back when Lp531 was helping me w/ the mobo heating problem which has been sense been fixed only because I ripped out the stock fans and put $100.00 worth of high speed Delta fans in w/ controller...AND NOW THIS...damn you red barron
Win. 7/Case- Thermaltake Armor11 bays "full case"-with side fan panel... removed stock fans replaced with SCYTHE 92mm 2ea. and SCYTHE/s-flex sff21f 120mm 2ea./ sunbeam 4 fan controller/Processor-Intel Core2Duo E6850 3.0 w/ Zalman CNPS7700-CU cooler/motherboard-Asus P5N32-E SLI p680I/PSU-Cooler Master RS 850 watt real power pro sli/Sound Card-Creative Sound Blaster X-FI FATAL1ty/Cables-Thermaltake Rounded IDE ATA & ATA2/Memory- 4 Gig Corsair XMS 800 MH/HDD-1ea. WD 300GB 10K VelociRaptor Sata-1ea.WD 320GB 7200rpm Sata/Drives- 2ea. Benq 1655 [Rev.BCDB]2ea.LG GH24NS70[rev.GN00]/52in1 card reader&Writer&USB/ Video cards- 1ea. EVGA Gforce Nvida GTX 550Ti /Monitors- 2ea. ACER AL2017 LCD 20 in. ea/Printer-
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25. July 2007 @ 13:02 |
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You put delta fans in? Bet the neighbours love you!
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25. July 2007 @ 13:07 |
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Ya big, big, fast, fast, from what people say I seem to speck a little loader nowa days LOL... I must say the people at sidewinder.com are great people to deal with
nexted build fluid cooled... and E6600 some day...
Win. 7/Case- Thermaltake Armor11 bays "full case"-with side fan panel... removed stock fans replaced with SCYTHE 92mm 2ea. and SCYTHE/s-flex sff21f 120mm 2ea./ sunbeam 4 fan controller/Processor-Intel Core2Duo E6850 3.0 w/ Zalman CNPS7700-CU cooler/motherboard-Asus P5N32-E SLI p680I/PSU-Cooler Master RS 850 watt real power pro sli/Sound Card-Creative Sound Blaster X-FI FATAL1ty/Cables-Thermaltake Rounded IDE ATA & ATA2/Memory- 4 Gig Corsair XMS 800 MH/HDD-1ea. WD 300GB 10K VelociRaptor Sata-1ea.WD 320GB 7200rpm Sata/Drives- 2ea. Benq 1655 [Rev.BCDB]2ea.LG GH24NS70[rev.GN00]/52in1 card reader&Writer&USB/ Video cards- 1ea. EVGA Gforce Nvida GTX 550Ti /Monitors- 2ea. ACER AL2017 LCD 20 in. ea/Printer-
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25. July 2007 @ 13:12 |
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I recommended the Sunbeam controller...but...I'm pretty sure I didn't recommend Delta's..:P...I haven't used a Delta since the 60mm CPU cooler days...
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25. July 2007 @ 13:20 |
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Win. 7/Case- Thermaltake Armor11 bays "full case"-with side fan panel... removed stock fans replaced with SCYTHE 92mm 2ea. and SCYTHE/s-flex sff21f 120mm 2ea./ sunbeam 4 fan controller/Processor-Intel Core2Duo E6850 3.0 w/ Zalman CNPS7700-CU cooler/motherboard-Asus P5N32-E SLI p680I/PSU-Cooler Master RS 850 watt real power pro sli/Sound Card-Creative Sound Blaster X-FI FATAL1ty/Cables-Thermaltake Rounded IDE ATA & ATA2/Memory- 4 Gig Corsair XMS 800 MH/HDD-1ea. WD 300GB 10K VelociRaptor Sata-1ea.WD 320GB 7200rpm Sata/Drives- 2ea. Benq 1655 [Rev.BCDB]2ea.LG GH24NS70[rev.GN00]/52in1 card reader&Writer&USB/ Video cards- 1ea. EVGA Gforce Nvida GTX 550Ti /Monitors- 2ea. ACER AL2017 LCD 20 in. ea/Printer-
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25. July 2007 @ 13:45 |
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The Spec's...
Specifications: 120x120x38mm, 151.85 CFM @ 3200 RPM, 53.0 dBA, 12.00 watts, 1.00 amps, 12v DC, 3+4 pin Molex connectors...at least you've got plenty of airflow...ROFL...Hell if you can tame them with the Sunbeam...You are probably OK...Whats the noise level like with those things...
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25. July 2007 @ 13:55 |
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0 there's air flow alright..have one 120 in front and one in the back w/ the AC Freezer 64 Pro cooler in the middle... as for noise its well..ok if I have the air conditioner on LOL, as soundly as you would think, but I lesson to every thing load as for music and games, I never watch DVD on my computer...dont really like the vid cards I have...BUT yes way loader then I would like, just did not know what else to do at the time?
Win. 7/Case- Thermaltake Armor11 bays "full case"-with side fan panel... removed stock fans replaced with SCYTHE 92mm 2ea. and SCYTHE/s-flex sff21f 120mm 2ea./ sunbeam 4 fan controller/Processor-Intel Core2Duo E6850 3.0 w/ Zalman CNPS7700-CU cooler/motherboard-Asus P5N32-E SLI p680I/PSU-Cooler Master RS 850 watt real power pro sli/Sound Card-Creative Sound Blaster X-FI FATAL1ty/Cables-Thermaltake Rounded IDE ATA & ATA2/Memory- 4 Gig Corsair XMS 800 MH/HDD-1ea. WD 300GB 10K VelociRaptor Sata-1ea.WD 320GB 7200rpm Sata/Drives- 2ea. Benq 1655 [Rev.BCDB]2ea.LG GH24NS70[rev.GN00]/52in1 card reader&Writer&USB/ Video cards- 1ea. EVGA Gforce Nvida GTX 550Ti /Monitors- 2ea. ACER AL2017 LCD 20 in. ea/Printer-
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25. July 2007 @ 15:13 |
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Golden rule of computing.
No PC EVER needs Delta fans. EVER.
I have ridiculous 2400rpm silverstones at the moment, and my PC doesnt overheat if i runt hem at 500rpm. At 1600 I get good temps, at 2400, the temps are the same as for 1600.
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26. July 2007 @ 07:13 |
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what is the dumbest thing you have done when building a computer?
like wondering why windows wont detect your hard drive when you never pluged in the SATA cable.
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26. July 2007 @ 07:19 |
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Originally posted by mikeh0303:
what is the dumbest thing you have done when building a computer?
like wondering why windows wont detect your hard drive when you never pluged in the SATA cable.
YOu did that did you? LOL
Power cable to HDD. Take into consideration that I had 4 of them hooked up. Figured it out PDQ but felt retarded for about 5 minutes. :P NO comments!!!
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26. July 2007 @ 07:39 |
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i have dont lots of stupid things like that, once i forgot the compute was on and pulged in a new sata hard drive it just powerd off.
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26. July 2007 @ 07:44 |
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Ooh let's see, a few things.
third place: Leaving out the 4-pin CPU power connector for the CPU
second place: Hot-plugging a molex fan, causing a spark and a PC shutdown
but the winner, in first place:
Attaching a heatsink, and completely omitting the thermal paste procedure, I didn't even remove the plastic sheet covering the copper base. Luckily that CPU had overheat protection!
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26. July 2007 @ 07:52 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
Ooh let's see, a few things.
third place: Leaving out the 4-pin CPU power connector for the CPU
second place: Hot-plugging a molex fan, causing a spark and a PC shutdown
but the winner, in first place:
Attaching a heatsink, and completely omitting the thermal paste procedure, I didn't even remove the plastic sheet covering the copper base. Luckily that CPU had overheat protection!
thats a funny list! your very luckey about the 3rd one
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26. July 2007 @ 14:16 |
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Umm...Forgetting the Heat Sink until I smelled something...
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28. July 2007 @ 17:01 |
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@ALL,
I'm looking at getting a "storage" drive for my setup right now. I want at least a 400GB HDD and preferably internal but not necessary. SATA goes without saying and 16MB cache of course.
Here's what I've looked at so far but NOT limited to this "retailer" or "Brands". TIA for your input. :)
WD at newegg
Seagate at newegg
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28. July 2007 @ 17:55 |
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28. July 2007 @ 18:12 |
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Thanks Lp!
I was looking at the Samsung as well. I haven't heard much about them but sammorris has recommended them before and the "reviews" seem ok too. What do you think about Samsung?? I've used their phones and mp3 players and they're ok but you know how different products act throughout a companies line. :D
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28. July 2007 @ 18:23 |
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I've never used a Samsung drive...Only WD...Maxtor...& Seagate...I usually go with Seagate...I have always considered all 3 manufacturers about equal in quality...noise...price and speed...
I go with the Seagates for the 5 year warranty...
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28. July 2007 @ 18:38 |
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Lp,
I like what you're saying about the Seagates. :) I haven't used any of the newer HDD's but I think I might try them in the next build. Well that depends on the sales at the moment. hehehe.
Thanks for the input buddy. :D Always precise and good.
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28. July 2007 @ 20:53 |
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@ sammorris
Ok MY FRIEND- then...enlighten me PLEASE- what fans should I have used that will do the job but w/ out the noise? Ive been asking for help on this mobo heat thing from way back and these yes load fans have been the only thing keeping my mobo under 39c...
can you plaese give me some other mfg that will do the same w/ out the noise?
No wonder the place was so understanding w/ me...I guess they seen a sucker coming?
Win. 7/Case- Thermaltake Armor11 bays "full case"-with side fan panel... removed stock fans replaced with SCYTHE 92mm 2ea. and SCYTHE/s-flex sff21f 120mm 2ea./ sunbeam 4 fan controller/Processor-Intel Core2Duo E6850 3.0 w/ Zalman CNPS7700-CU cooler/motherboard-Asus P5N32-E SLI p680I/PSU-Cooler Master RS 850 watt real power pro sli/Sound Card-Creative Sound Blaster X-FI FATAL1ty/Cables-Thermaltake Rounded IDE ATA & ATA2/Memory- 4 Gig Corsair XMS 800 MH/HDD-1ea. WD 300GB 10K VelociRaptor Sata-1ea.WD 320GB 7200rpm Sata/Drives- 2ea. Benq 1655 [Rev.BCDB]2ea.LG GH24NS70[rev.GN00]/52in1 card reader&Writer&USB/ Video cards- 1ea. EVGA Gforce Nvida GTX 550Ti /Monitors- 2ea. ACER AL2017 LCD 20 in. ea/Printer-
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28. July 2007 @ 22:00 |
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Read over in the Over Clocking thread...Sam and theonejrs just went over fans that would be perfect for your needs...however... I believe they were expensive...
If you turn the fans down to 1000rpm's how bad are they...you don't need that much air flow...turn them to an acceptable level...and look at your temps...then make a decision...
Cooler Master makes some Good...CFM to DB to $ fans...check out SVC.com...they always have good prices on them...
http://www.svc.com/120x25mmfans.html
I use the Cooler Masters almost exclusively...I add wire fan guards...It stiffens the fans chassis and help to quiet any fan...I add them inside and out when ever I can...
I cut out all punched fan guards on most builds if they have them...punched fan guards piss me off...they can turn the quietest fan into a ineffective noisy beast...
http://www.svc.com/120x25mmfans.html
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28. July 2007 @ 23:19 |
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herrick,
have you reseated your NB an SB heatsinks with some AS5? the crap that comes oem on those heatsinks is just that..........crap. you might even consider some NB and SB fans. 40 x 40 x 20mm fans fit perfect on my P5W DH Deluxe NB and SB heatsinks. reseating with AS5 and NB and SB fans cooled my mobo down over 10 degrees C.
Rig #1 Asus Rampage Formula Mobo, Intel Core2Quad Q9450 CPU @ 3.55ghz, 2gb Corsair DDR2 1066 Dominator Ram @ 5-5-5-15, TR Ultra 120 Extreme w/ Scythe 9 blade 110 cfm 120mm Fan HSF, HIS Radeon 512mb HD3850 IceQ TurboX GPU, Corsair 620HX P/S, CM Stacker 830 Evo Case, Rig #2 Asus P5W DH Deluxe Mobo, Intel C2D E6600 CPU @ 3.6ghz, 2gb Corsair XMS2 DDR2 800 Ram @ 4-4-4-12-2t, Zalman CNPS9500LED HSF, Sapphire Radeon X850XT PE GPU, Corsair 620HX P/S, Cooler Master Mystique Case, Viewsonic 20.1" Widescreen Digital LCD Monitor, Klipsch Promedia Ultra 5.1 THX Desktop Speakers, http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=348351 http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=236435 |
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29. July 2007 @ 06:07 |
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Here's my personal experience/opinion on hard disks:
maxtor: cheaper than other brands, some models have reliability issues, noisier than other brands.
WD: Smooth seek noise (the grinding sound when they're in use), but louder at idle. Good performance. Most models reliable, but WD5000 series should be avoided.
Seagate: Quiet at idle, loud when in use. Fast, Reliable, and big capacities available that work!
Samsung: Quietest of all drives, but vibrate a lot - not so good in cheap cases. Reasonable reliability, high speed.
Only ever had 1 Deskstar, and that was so old it was before the Hitachi merger, so I wouldn't think that relevant!
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29. July 2007 @ 11:05 |
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Thanks sam!!
Mort81 since you're lurking around. :D I remember you being a WD fan but what do you think about the 400-500 HDD choices on the market right now?? I've given a couple of links to different brands but I would appreciate your input as well. :) TIA.
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29. July 2007 @ 11:08 |
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With 400-500GB, I'd go with Samsung or Seagate. Both WD5000AAKS drives I've had have had faults, and are the only hard drives I've ever owned to have!
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