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29. July 2007 @ 11:46 |
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greensman,
I really like WD hdd's but the largest I have had any experience with is 250 GB. I would stay away from maxtors. I don't have any experience with samsungs or seagates. I've always just opted for WD's since they've been so good to me.
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29. July 2007 @ 11:54 |
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Likewise, i've only owned two seagates, one IBM, two Samsungs and one Maxtor, but I've had these from WD:
36GB Raptor
160GB Caviar IDE
200GB Caviar SE IDE
250GB Caviar SE S-ATA x2
and of course the two 500s that have been rubbish.
The samsungs (a 250 and a 400) have been good, I'd recommend them. Unfortunately I can't comment on the 200GB IDE, 250GB Samsung and first 500GB WD any more since they all got toasted by electrical issues (the 200 by a bad PSU, the others by a bad PSU cable)
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29. July 2007 @ 14:16 |
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Thanks again sam. :)
Mort81 as always, THANKS for your input. ;D
Lp531 with your influence I might "try" the Seagate for the next build and as a storage drive in my current rig. I've got 2 250 GB WD's right now but I just seem to need extra "room" every now and then. hehehe. You'd call it "wiggle room" but I don't want to steal a "trademark". :P
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29. July 2007 @ 14:29 |
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The 750GB Seagates are very good I'm told. Somebody I know has 16 in a RAID6 fileserver (lucky so and so) and so far no problems with any, other than that his 600W PSU couldn't power them all up lol!
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29. July 2007 @ 18:50 |
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have you reseated your NB an SB heatsinks with some AS5?
.....yes and it changed nothing! I got a NB cooler but noticed that pipe attaches to a few things so I had dash34 reseat EVERYTHING w/ artic 5
As for the fans they need to be lots of air flow or I cant seem to keep the thing under 39c
I have come to the thought...sence now my second PCIe slot is out that the mobe is just a lemon....seems after reading for weeks I am not the only one these things has happen to...I need to get another board and soon I think.
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30. July 2007 @ 09:23 |
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I just bought 2 Samsung 500's at Newegg for 114.00ea.Just a mon old,
of all my HDD they run the coolest according to everest.They pretty much stay consistent at 26c 79F,where as all my other drives are frm 29c 84F to 38c 100F.(2-Hitachi,2-Maxtor,1-WD all 250's)..I've replaced the WD twice under warranty both times lost all my Data.The Hitachis are Deckstar & on occassion on re-boot loose the drive letter,have to run their test Disc & re-boot again to re-establish drv letter.If the Samsung hold up as well as their other products..I feel they could end up being the better bang for the buck...Just my opinion
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30. July 2007 @ 10:19 |
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Wow youve had it even worse with hard disks than I have.
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30. July 2007 @ 14:55 |
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Thanks for the input rick! :)
I haven't made up my mind completely yet but it seems the Seagates are pulling me their way right now. If I get some more favorable votes for the Samsungs I may have to look at them too. :) I do like the temps you were talking about rick, nice and cool. :)
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30. July 2007 @ 19:39 |
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Ya !Well many moons ago you could depend on name brands.But nowadays it seem like ya just taken a shot in the dark..Believe it or not G E & RCA were top of the line in consumer products [50's,60's,TV's,Radios,Appliances,etc]
But all kiddin aside I bought Samsung [VCR 49.00]the week they came on the market,a friend of mine bought a top of the line[JVC] for 199.00,BIGGER,PRETTIER.But my Samsung had the same bells & whistles,also better picture.From that point on I bought pretty much just Samsung.Just hope HDD are the same..[Like I said..Pig in a Poke].Ya just don't know
Oh Ya he took back his JVC & Bought Samsung
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30. July 2007 @ 19:43 |
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ive been looking around at HDD's i dont remember what site i was at but i thought i seen a 1TB hard drive. was i right or am i just seeing things?
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30. July 2007 @ 20:01 |
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30. July 2007 @ 20:18 |
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Well what I've ended up doing is Buying by warranty[Longer is better] If a product is priced right,I'll buy the extended warranty for the 20 or 30 bucks
I think I'll try the lacies next at CompUSA..They go on sale pretty regular
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31. July 2007 @ 01:43 |
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LaCie drives from what I can gather use Hitachi Deskstar drives, so I'm unsure of their long term performance. You can however buy a 1000GB 3.5" drive from Hitachi now, providing you have a well cooled case, they get hot!
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31. July 2007 @ 03:20 |
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I will investigate further,B4 Buying.My computers don't seem to like Hitachi Deckstar.I'll give these Samsung a little longer try.I guess I'll go with whoever has the longest warranty.
I'm building 2 more computers so I'll need 4 more HDDs
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31. July 2007 @ 03:49 |
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At the moment Samsung are who I go with since, assuming you have a well built case, they're the quietest.
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31. July 2007 @ 19:07 |
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I go with the Seagates at the moment in Sata drives. The Seagate ST3160811AS 160GB in my E4300 was thrown over the fence by UPS and landed about 30 feet into the yard. Completely smashed the corner of the box and has worked without problem for over a year now. So far I've bought an even dozen of that model and had 1 failure, the one I shipped to Chicago failed after a few months. I think it may have been damaged in shipping.
Before that I was using Maxtor 8,9 and 10 Diamond Plus ATAs with no problems. I did get one that was DOA, but thankfully I bought it on sale at Best Buy so I was able to take it back to the store and return it for an exchange the same day.
The oldest living/breathing drive I own is in my Dell 420 Workstation, an Hitachi 10,000 rpm 37GB SCSI, which will turn 7 in a couple of weeks!
A quick word about fan noise! Noise is a subjective thing. Some people want as silent a system as possible (hi Sam!). Most people are willing to put up with a little more noise to have a cooler running computer. I have a Silverstone FM121 120mm as a rear case fan running at 1400 rpm. At 2400 rpm it would drive you very quickly out of the room. I also have a Silverstone FM83 80mm side exhaust fan that runs at 1300 rpm. At it's top speed of 3600 rpm, again just the vibration would drive anybody crazy. At the low speeds I run both of these, they move about 100 cfm of air, very quietly and do an excellent job of cooling my PC. I just went through a series of tests on another Forum, and left the fans at my normal speeds. The last of those tests, running OCCT, saw 62C for my CPU and 38C for the chipset, Max! My E4300 is overclocked 78% at 3.2GHz, my memory about 11% at 890Mhz and my 7600GT is running at 650/1600, up from 570/1450. I'm happy to say that the tests went well with no problems. My CPU fan, which normally runs below 1000 rpm under PWM control from the MB got into the 2200-2300 range while running OCCT. and the fans remain more than quiet enough for me. Since there are a total of 7 fans running inside my case, counting the 3000 rpm/6 cfm 40mm Silenex I put on the NB heatsink, the PS 120mm fan which is temperature controlled, the 7600GT which runs at max speed and the stock Cooler Master 80mm front intake fan at max speed, I consider it very quiet and my CPU and MB temps this minute are 29C/37C in a 27C room, and it all works well for me! I sit less than 3" away, with my computer on my desktop on the right, and the small amount of noise I do hear is not in the least bit annoying. Much quieter than the stock 120mm and 80mm fans I had before! I highly recommend the Silverstones as you will never need the top speed (and noise) and at the reasonable speeds I run them at they move a huge amount of air and do a great job of ventilating the case with a minimal amount of noise!
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theone ;-)
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31. July 2007 @ 19:36 |
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Thanks theone!! Your input is well heeded and respected. :) I've gotten plenty of "favorable" votes for the Seagates. Guess they are gonna go in the next build for me. :)
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31. July 2007 @ 19:46 |
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Thanks Greensman,
I think the 160 is a reasonable size and the temps stay right at MB temps. Higher capacities than that tend to run a bit warmer, and the price is good!
Best Regards,
theone
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31. July 2007 @ 21:00 |
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@theonejrs
where did you get these Silverstone fans at?
Win. 7/Case- Thermaltake Armor11 bays "full case"-with side fan panel... removed stock fans replaced with SCYTHE 92mm 2ea. and SCYTHE/s-flex sff21f 120mm 2ea./ sunbeam 4 fan controller/Processor-Intel Core2Duo E6850 3.0 w/ Zalman CNPS7700-CU cooler/motherboard-Asus P5N32-E SLI p680I/PSU-Cooler Master RS 850 watt real power pro sli/Sound Card-Creative Sound Blaster X-FI FATAL1ty/Cables-Thermaltake Rounded IDE ATA & ATA2/Memory- 4 Gig Corsair XMS 800 MH/HDD-1ea. WD 300GB 10K VelociRaptor Sata-1ea.WD 320GB 7200rpm Sata/Drives- 2ea. Benq 1655 [Rev.BCDB]2ea.LG GH24NS70[rev.GN00]/52in1 card reader&Writer&USB/ Video cards- 1ea. EVGA Gforce Nvida GTX 550Ti /Monitors- 2ea. ACER AL2017 LCD 20 in. ea/Printer-
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31. July 2007 @ 21:15 |
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I believe svc.com carries them...I believe they are on sale right now for $15...I don't know where theonejrs got his...
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31. July 2007 @ 21:43 |
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1. August 2007 @ 10:29 |
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maybe I'm just lucky but I've yet to have a WD hdd fail. mine is at 27 C right now and quiet as a mouse. like theone, no more maxtor hdd's for me. although the one I have now hasn't failed, it is 3 C hotter just idling than the WD and is noisy.
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1. August 2007 @ 11:51 |
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Originally posted by Mort81:
maybe I'm just lucky but I've yet to have a WD hdd fail. mine is at 27 C right now and quiet as a mouse. like theone, no more maxtor hdd's for me. although the one I have now hasn't failed, it is 3 C hotter just idling than the WD and is noisy.
Hello Mort81!! :)
I agree about the WD HDD's. I have 3 of them now that work like a champ, 1 Maxtor that is a little noisy but she's a good-un and an OLD IBM deskstar that is still working. LOL. After 6+ years of service it still works like the first day I bought it. LOL.
I just wanted to get some ideas and feedback from the members that have USED the larger drives and see what they like and what works well. :) I think the Seagates have me for now but I'm not sold yet. :D
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1. August 2007 @ 13:27 |
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@ theonejrs
thanks...
Win. 7/Case- Thermaltake Armor11 bays "full case"-with side fan panel... removed stock fans replaced with SCYTHE 92mm 2ea. and SCYTHE/s-flex sff21f 120mm 2ea./ sunbeam 4 fan controller/Processor-Intel Core2Duo E6850 3.0 w/ Zalman CNPS7700-CU cooler/motherboard-Asus P5N32-E SLI p680I/PSU-Cooler Master RS 850 watt real power pro sli/Sound Card-Creative Sound Blaster X-FI FATAL1ty/Cables-Thermaltake Rounded IDE ATA & ATA2/Memory- 4 Gig Corsair XMS 800 MH/HDD-1ea. WD 300GB 10K VelociRaptor Sata-1ea.WD 320GB 7200rpm Sata/Drives- 2ea. Benq 1655 [Rev.BCDB]2ea.LG GH24NS70[rev.GN00]/52in1 card reader&Writer&USB/ Video cards- 1ea. EVGA Gforce Nvida GTX 550Ti /Monitors- 2ea. ACER AL2017 LCD 20 in. ea/Printer-
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4. August 2007 @ 08:03 |
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You guys still got time for a hardware newb with a socket am2 motherboard, and amd athlon x 2 4200+ processor, and RAM and harddrive and disc drives on their way?
Cause i have no idea how to hook all this stuff up.
I have connected the processor and the fan to the motherboard, and the RAMs easy enough. But the harddrive and disc drives and things i might need a little help with...
Thanks ireland!![afterdawn legend]
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