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4. August 2007 @ 08:13 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
billybob,
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You guys still got time for a hardware newb with a socket am2 motherboard, and amd athlon x 2 4200+ processor, and RAM and harddrive and disc drives on their way?

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4. August 2007 @ 08:46 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by billybob:
You guys still got time for a hardware newb with a socket am2 motherboard, and amd athlon x 2 4200+ processor, and RAM and harddrive and disc drives on their way?

Cause i have no idea how to hook all this stuff up.

I have connected the processor and the fan to the motherboard, and the RAMs easy enough. But the harddrive and disc drives and things i might need a little help with...
are they SATA (usually a red cable) or are they IDE (thin, but very wide, usually grey or black)

SATA is very easy, you just take one end of the cable and plug it on the motherboard and the other on the drive, you dont have to worry about master and slave. Then you give it power with a SATA power cable (if you power supply does not have this then you just get an adapter, and some hard drives have both SATA and molex power connectors)

IDE is also very easy, but if you computer is new it should no have it

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They're pretty simple, especially as mikeh said, if they're S-ATA. The CD/DVD drive probably won't be S-ATA though, so what you nee dot ensure is:
The IDE cable's the right way round (usually there's a blue end at the motherboard)
The IDE cable's the right way up (there's a spot where a pin's missing in the connector to help you get it right)
The correct Jumper is set. You'll want the CD Drive as Master if there are no other IDE devices present.




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Thought this needed some attention from the people in the know!!! I don't know about this PSU but I think it's upper end Antec and what a deal. I'll leave it up to the "gurus" to comment and leave their opinion on the PSU. :D

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5. August 2007 @ 06:53 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by greensman:
Thought this needed some attention from the people in the know!!! I don't know about this PSU but I think it's upper end Antec and what a deal. I'll leave it up to the "gurus" to comment and leave their opinion on the PSU. :D

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Antec TruePower Quattro 850
that looks like a great PSU, i have an antec and it works great

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The fan thing for my processor, has a cable coming out of it, obviously needs to be plugged in the motherboard. Its got three pin holes in it, the closest i can find it one with 4 pins. It connects okay as i just leave the end pin blank, is this right?

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5. August 2007 @ 10:08 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Right, i cant even fit the dam thing in the box!!

LOL. I cannot figure out how to screw in my motherboard, attaching it to the case...its a socket AM2 motherboard, and a standard towercase from ebuyer. None of the little holes in each corner seem to line up with any hole in the tower case :S

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5. August 2007 @ 11:18 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by billybob:
The fan thing for my processor, has a cable coming out of it, obviously needs to be plugged in the motherboard. Its got three pin holes in it, the closest i can find it one with 4 pins. It connects okay as i just leave the end pin blank, is this right?
it will be fine in a 4pin socket

Originally posted by billybob:

Right, i cant even fit the dam thing in the box!!

LOL. I cannot figure out how to screw in my motherboard, attaching it to the case...its a socket AM2 motherboard, and a standard towercase from ebuyer. None of the little holes in each corner seem to line up with any hole in the tower case :S
Are you sure you have a case that supports ATX? oh and did you use this: http://www.silverpcs.com/images/screws_mb_mount.jpg (you usually need to)



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5. August 2007 @ 11:22 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
yes, you must use risers like those before you screw them in. As for the holes matching up, assuming you bought an ATX motherboard, and an ATX case, they will.



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Yes i have a cheap standard casecom case, but it specifically states its compatible with ATX and MATX motherboards.

and this motherboard: http://www.ebuyer.com/UK/product/119408

So they should be, and those risers...more info ? :)

I did say i was a noob, i meant it :P

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5. August 2007 @ 14:56 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
They look like those things in the picture. You screw THOSe into the motherboard holes, then put the motherboard on top of them, and screw the board into the risers.



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5. August 2007 @ 15:15 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
i seeee

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Install the rear I/O panel into case...and maybe H/D's...If ATA...Pre-set H/D to Master or Slave...Don't know what case you have...
Then Install CPU...and Ram...on to M/B before...installing M/B in case...

Also Do Not "Over Tighten Screws" and Crush the M/B...

Then Apply Arctic Silver or Paste...Then Install CPU Cooler...P/S...DVD Drives...Pre-set CD/DVD Drives to Master or Slave...then install Video and Audio Card if you have one...
Then Hook-up front of Case Wires to M/B Header...
Hook-up DVD and HD Drive Cables to M/B...
Then Route P/S Wires and attach to all Components...and finally wire all case fans to appropriate headers on M/B...

Make Sure that the CPU Cooler is hooked up to the "CPU Fan Header" for proper monitoring by M/B's...CPU Thermal Protection...


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billybob,

That's a really great price on that Power Supply! Newegg gets $249 for the same one! Compusa is out of stock on them at the moment, so I suspect that's the last we'll see at that price!

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Originally posted by sammorris:
They look like those things in the picture. You screw THOSe into the motherboard holes, then put the motherboard on top of them, and screw the board into the risers.
just make sure you put the risers ONLY wherer you need them or you will kill the board (the metal will short something for sure.

So just put one riser in at a time while making SURE it matches up with the motherboard holes


this is what happens when you dont line them up:

1. http://www.aditus.nu/jpgraph/img/fried_server/heat1.jpg

2. http://www.health-in-action.org/library/...cry%20baby2.jpg


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It was greensman who posted the PSU, Russ, Billybob's from the UK!

Mikeh: That can also happen if you overtighten the screws, I've never seen a crushed MB, but I do know some motherboards won't POST if you do up the screws too tight.



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6. August 2007 @ 01:36 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
okay then.

Sam, will i have some of those with my case/motherboard? Or will i have to buy some.

(i havent checked to see if i have them included yet)

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They should always be included with the case. Even a SuperFlower ebuyer extra value case I paid £25 including delivery for had them, so yours should.



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okay then. i did get a bag of screws i kept safely :D

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6. August 2007 @ 01:47 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Good! If in doubt, keep the screws!



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sammorris,
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It was greensman who posted the PSU, Russ, Billybob's from the UK!

Yea, I was going to comment on the MB billybob posted and didn't, and forgot to change the "To:"!

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Mikeh: That can also happen if you overtighten the screws, I've never seen a crushed MB, but I do know some motherboards won't POST if you do up the screws too tight.

Most cases come with screw kits with brass standoffs or risers, and most have reddish fiber washers to insulate the screws from the motherboard, if needed! I've had to use them from time to time! What I usually do is stick the MB inside the case without the plate for the plug-ins on the back of the MB and mark the matching holes with an Ultra Fine Point Sharpie! Then just pop out the MB and screw in the risers, pop the plate back in and screw down the MB. By removing the inside cover plate, you don't have to fight the spring fingers to get them marked. Most motherboards use about 6 screws!

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6. August 2007 @ 02:37 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
You know, I'm not even sure what method I use, I think I've just been looking at which holes there are in the motherboard, shoving the risers in, then screwing the Mobo in on top!



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Originally posted by sammorris:
You know, I'm not even sure what method I use, I think I've just been looking at which holes there are in the motherboard, shoving the risers in, then screwing the Mobo in on top!
i count the amount of holes in the motherboard, then i put that many risers in, if i see one hole without a riser then i know i have one in the wrong place

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Can't really get more intricate in the PC building thread than where the risers go lol.
Out of curiosity, does BTX still use the same riser/hole/screw arrangement, or is it different?



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mikeh0303,
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if i see one hole without a riser then i know i have one in the wrong place

I this day and age with a lot of motherboards having holes for "optional" chipset coolers, that could get a newbie in trouble. Not all motherboards come with Southbridge coolers, either a fan/heatsink or a passive one. The Asus P5N-E comes to mind! I only mention it because I do know of someone who fried their MB that way. He cut the threaded part off because there were no matching screw holes in the case bottom and screwed the brass hex part to both Southbridge holes in the MB! Sounds stupid, but he was just trying to be thorough and support the MB properly!

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