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PS3 Swap Switch Tutorial
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Supagrafx
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16. May 2007 @ 08:30 |
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First of all, let me say thank you for coming up with this grand solution to ps2 b'ups!!! I would like to know more info concerning the multiple switches as well. Also and more importantly, the 20 gig ps3 model, has no ability to leave the switch hanging out, is this or not correct? I believe the 60 gig has the retractlable panel that lifts up and down for the sony smart cards, ect...,... Since mine is the 20 gig, I'm thinking the casing or this part, won't lift up to allow the switch to penetrate through the case..... Any ideas where to place the switch on a 20gig model?
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16. May 2007 @ 11:58 |
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Ok let me get this streight. This will let me boot ps2 backups without sm? I have firmware 1.32. I'm just kind of confused.
@supagrafx--it sounds like u can mount that switch where the card readers would be in the 20gb inside the case. Theres prolly just free space in there.
In fact I think we would be fooling our selves if we have a community this large, and did not realize that there are some enemies present. |
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Supagrafx
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16. May 2007 @ 12:08 |
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Originally posted by sniper78:
Ok let me get this streight. This will let me boot ps2 backups without sm? I have firmware 1.32. I'm just kind of confused.
@supagrafx--it sounds like u can mount that switch where the card readers would be in the 20gb inside the case. Theres prolly just free space in there.
Yeah, but you have to switch the switch, which means the switch has to be on the ps3 exterior. I just bought the switch at radio shack, mine has a red plastic switch top instead of black!!! Anyways, not sure yet if I'm gonna carry through with this, as it seems I might have to drill a hole where smart card would have been so that the switch sticks out. I'll at least solder all the connections except to the ps3 in case I change my mind and carry through. I have one more question, the voltage output with various voltage selections like the one pictured, how much and where to get? I've seen ones for arcade pcbs that output 5,12,24 volts, but nothing this small. Radio shack had the toggle switch, but not the voltage adaptor...
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16. May 2007 @ 12:33 |
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OKay....
ive seen this alover the net - since i first read it here - and disregared as bull...
simple question here
can anyone other than the origianal poster confirm this working
would also love to see this working in video format....
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16. May 2007 @ 13:00 |
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I bet this works. I just don't want to open my ps3 to play ps2 backups when the ps2 is right next to my ps3 already to play backups. kool tho, good job.
In fact I think we would be fooling our selves if we have a community this large, and did not realize that there are some enemies present.
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16. May 2007 @ 13:32 |
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not really ther answer i was after
my ps2 in in the drawer - ready for playing
im more interested in the possibillities of the exploit
guessing still not working then?????
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udayrulz
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16. May 2007 @ 13:44 |
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Can anybody confirm if this works with FW 1.7 and do you need swap magic to run PS2 backups
RegArds
UdAy
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Supagrafx
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16. May 2007 @ 13:48 |
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Originally posted by udayrulz:
Can anybody confirm if this works with FW 1.7 and do you need swap magic to run PS2 backups
RegArds
UdAy
The author said on the original site posted that any original ps2 game could be used, making swap magic useless.
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realTNT
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16. May 2007 @ 14:01 |
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I know alot of people my be scared to try this and its understandable.
the ps3 is alot of money to piss away if you mess up doing it. But, in theory this should!!! work with PS3 "back-ups" if you have a Blu-ray burner. of course like PS2 games have an encryption that was broken, Blu-ray does have one too.
Once that is fully broken and able to be "backed-up" it would work with PS3 games because the switch allows you to eject and load any type of disc with out the PS3 knowing that the disc was removed.
the reason you need A original disc of A game you want to play is because all you need is the playstation boot info. You would have to put an original PS3 game in 1st, let it read the boot info, then use the switch to eject it, put the back-up PS3 game in and you should just be able to play it. It works the same with PS2 games.
So in Theory PS3 should work as long as you have a Blu-ray burner. Now that being said, that doesn't mean that playstation won't get around that with a simple update. I know how they can for the most part for PS3 games, but if you have Swap Magic for PS2 with the switch there really shouldn't be away for them to mess that up for current Playstations.
I don't want them to think of it if they haven't already. Now that the secret to screw sony is out, they will redesign the PS3 were you couldn't put a switch on there like that. too bad for the ppl that don't already have one.
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Spender85
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17. May 2007 @ 06:16 |
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It's not worth getting excited over this IMO as it would extremely easy to patch in a firmware update.
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Supagrafx
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17. May 2007 @ 09:00 |
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Originally posted by Spender85:
It's not worth getting excited over this IMO as it would extremely easy to patch in a firmware update.
That's what I was thinking too. A new patch could tell the ps3 to check the disc multiple times, not just once, like randomly, during play, instead of the supposable initial one time check media pass. Well, at least I can paint the ps3 for now until something more viable surfaces or if in fact br burns indeed work with this.
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BonScott1
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17. May 2007 @ 09:11 |
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It is like "back to the future". Oldschool solution for the new generation ;). I applied this procedure to my first PS2 console with Swap Magic. It was six years ago.
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pizzag
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17. May 2007 @ 09:38 |
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Originally posted by BonScott1:
It is like "back to the future". Oldschool solution for the new generation ;). I applied this procedure to my first PS2 console with Swap Magic. It was six years ago.
That's exactly where i got my idea from to do this i googled ps2 eject switch, thought about it a couple nights and then tried it. and there isn't much chance of messing the ps3 up because all you're soldering in the ps3 is 2 wires to the eject motor. as far as the extra switches to retain original fucntionality, that is just so it works like it did when you bought it. if you wanted to play backups you would have to turn the automatic stuff off. and when you wanted to play originals of ps1, ps2, or ps3 just put it back on auto. and also, i saw on a certain ps3 news site today that they now have my tutorial up on their site prolly claiming that they did it which is untrue. this was my idea and i put it into motion. the funny thing is i tried posting it on their crappy forums and was banned for posting a link. i also have someone who is going to send me a ps3 bluray backup so i will be able to see if that works also. i can already tell you that it will, as ps3 games do not have checks YET. Yet being the key word. i've already gotten alot of emails asking me to do this to theirs, which is not a problem. and no, you do not need swap magic for this to work. just an original ps2 game will do the job.
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pizzag
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17. May 2007 @ 10:04 |
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and also people, think of this. if they do make a patch or whatever, there are already ways to bypass firmware detection for games. and i can confirm this working on firmware 1.7 which is what i am currently at. when i installed the switch i was at 1.32, then 1.54, and now 1.7.
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17. May 2007 @ 10:48 |
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Hey Pizzag I already stood up for you at QJ & Maxconsole on this topic but to some forum users not the places themselves as they did the right thing by giving credit to you and where it came from. If you also go back to page 1 here it shows basically the same thing I said.
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pizzag
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17. May 2007 @ 11:05 |
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thanks, i appreciate it. but in the long run i did it to hopefully help the scene. i'm not in it for the fame and fortune lol. i just hope it helps some people, and someday i hope to be playing off the hard drive. i just wish i knew how to write programs. i would have already rewrote hda for ps3 =)
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17. May 2007 @ 11:25 |
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I totally understand you but it's still important...you don't know how many times I have stumbled across my tutorial on some obscure website that has edited the crap out of it and never gave any props as to where it came from, that I wrote it and without ANY permission! Either way great work you deserve the credit...you did the work!
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pizzag
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17. May 2007 @ 11:28 |
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just as a side note, the swap trick idea was not mine, and has been out for a while but required hacking your ps3 into pieces by cutting a hole in the top of the Blu-ray drive and leaving the top off of the ps3. i just came up with the switch idea and made it so that it is easier and the ps3 is still cosmetically sound. i don't have a video recorder, and i borrowed the crappy camera from a friend otherwise i'd have better pictures. sorry
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pizzag
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17. May 2007 @ 11:39 |
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another nifty piece of news i just got is that i will shortly be getting a Blu-ray backup of a ps3 game (which i own) and trying to boot it. and i will be borrowing a decent video cam and posting my results. and i will work on editing my pictures so that they are better. expect my results in the next few weeks unless someone beats me to it.=)
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17. May 2007 @ 13:10 |
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Originally posted by pizzag:
just as a side note, the swap trick idea was not mine, and has been out for a while but required hacking your ps3 into pieces by cutting a hole in the top of the Blu-ray drive and leaving the top off of the ps3. i just came up with the switch idea and made it so that it is easier and the ps3 is still cosmetically sound. i don't have a video recorder, and i borrowed the crappy camera from a friend otherwise i'd have better pictures. sorry
I made that clear on Maxconsole (about you making a switch mod not the swap trick itself) as the poster was trying to make it seem it was old and made by that BS News site.
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SirRaven
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17. May 2007 @ 13:53 |
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If you get a chance, I'd like your insight on my question from page 1 about how the checks are done w/ the ps3. Mainly, if the sensor itself acts as the power/eject button of the PS2 relaying authenticity checks.
I'm curious as to how you figure the multi-switch method would work. Still trying to figure out where exactly the checks occur w/ the ps3's loading scheme.
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pizzag
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17. May 2007 @ 14:11 |
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Originally posted by SirRaven:
If you get a chance, I'd like your insight on my question from page 1 about how the checks are done w/ the ps3. Mainly, if the sensor itself acts as the power/eject button of the PS2 relaying authenticity checks.
I'm curious as to how you figure the multi-switch method would work. Still trying to figure out where exactly the checks occur w/ the ps3's loading scheme.
i would say that the eject button itself is a check, and the slot loader sensor is also a check. and then when you load the game into the drive is where i would guess you have the main media check to make sure it is a valid game. with the switch, you bypass the eject button check, and with the slot load sensor disabled you also bypass that check. so when the game is in the drive and the ps3 reads it as a valid game, there are no more checks and you can freely swap away. i hope that answers your question. that's just my opinion of course. and also, i did try the switch with the load sensor enabled and when i unloaded the game to swap, the sensor picked up that the game was being unloaded which in turn unloaded the media from the ps3 xmb.
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Supagrafx
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17. May 2007 @ 15:47 |
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One could probably even use quick disconnects instead of soldering, if they weren't so inclined as the 6 terminals below the "off middle switch" are disconnect capable. Also, the bluray drive cables could be cut and spliced with new ones, I'm thinking, avoiding the desolder and solder method again. Pizzag, Have you tested imported backup ps2 media and does this work/region free, ect...???? Also the toggle switch, was it the 6A or 10A/120~240 VAC?? Like to know before considering going through with this...
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pizzag
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17. May 2007 @ 16:04 |
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Originally posted by Supagrafx:
One could probably even use quick disconnects instead of soldering, if they weren't so inclined as the 6 terminals below the "off middle switch" are disconnect capable. Also, the bluray drive cables could be cut and spliced with new ones, I'm thinking, avoiding the desolder and solder method again. Pizzag, Have you tested imported backup ps2 media and does this work/region free, ect...???? Also the toggle switch, was it the 6A or 10A/120~240 VAC?? Like to know before considering going through with this...
the switch says 6a 125vac and 3a 250vac. i have never played imports, so no i haven't tried. if the ps3 plays ps2 games region free to begin with i would think it would work, but i don't think it does. i think only ps3 games are region free, but i'm not sure.
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alien1201
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17. May 2007 @ 16:10 |
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Originally posted by Supagrafx:
One could probably even use quick disconnects instead of soldering, if they weren't so inclined as the 6 terminals below the "off middle switch" are disconnect capable. Also, the bluray drive cables could be cut and spliced with new ones, I'm thinking, avoiding the desolder and solder method again. Pizzag, Have you tested imported backup ps2 media and does this work/region free, ect...???? Also the toggle switch, was it the 6A or 10A/120~240 VAC?? Like to know before considering going through with this...
I help to answer the switch about "6A or 10A/120~240VAC" its means this switch able to use on the range 6-10A;120-240V. (A=Ampere, the SI unit of electrical current; VAC= Voltage AC) Seem the range of switch can be use at more higher of voltage and ampere, so that this switch is No Problem use on a small DC voltage motor.
As my know there is few type of 3-way switch, if u plan to buy must remember its middle off 3-way switch
I got question as well, is that play a backup Ps2 must put in Original Ps2 game. How about put in Original Ps3 game for doing swap?
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