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tsrps3
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26. July 2007 @ 07:58 |
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want me to speak my mind?
I think you're a reseller of Swap Magic looking for a way to make new sales.
Both Pizzag and me confirmed it, Swap Magic DOES NOT STOP THE LASER.
So i call shens on what you're saying, yeah that's right.
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TSR
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viks
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26. July 2007 @ 12:41 |
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i dont give a f*ck what do you think.Try to focus on the topic, and maybe you could help someone instead of being sarcastic and useless.
Once more i confirm: PS3 unit with v1.70 and Swap Magic 3.6 plus runs all my Ps2 backups and the laser stop few seconds after i get the message "Load disc".
and also:
user chrissy12:
"i can confirm swap magic version 2, stops the disc spining right away whn says insert disc + works on my 1.7 ps3"
So has you can see im not the only one saying it.i wont answer you anymore.
Be well everybody.
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tsrps3
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26. July 2007 @ 13:20 |
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well don't answer me if that's more convenient for you, like I care.
I'm just saying what I see: for me Swap Magic 3.6 PLus doesn't stop the laser, period.
If people already have a good CD & DVD original with big TOC, Swap Magic is completely useless.
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TSR
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yantz
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26. July 2007 @ 20:07 |
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Originally posted by tsrps3:
yantz, your PS3 bought in Singapore is probably NTSC-J, so compatible with Swap Magic 3.6 Japanese version, just like the one I received and tested a few posts above. Just look on the back of the console or on the box to confirm, it should say NTSC-J.
you're right. sony singapore confirmed its ntsc-j, and the back of the system did states ntsc-j. silly me, i should've confirm it before ordering. anyway, divineo.cn has replied to my email and i can send it back to get an exchange. thx tsrps3!
yantz
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Brazilguy
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28. July 2007 @ 20:35 |
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Plz guys, post videos of the Swap Magic not stopping or stopping the spinning disc.
It would be cool if it stopped, cos sometimes we just wanna play a race of crazy frog racer with a friend, and then a quick match of king of fighters, for example. And waiting 10 minutes to swap discs suck.
AGAIN I ASK if anyone knows if we could just make a switch to turn off the laser and the motor... Does anyone knows eletronics? I'm just an ordinary guy messing around and that knows nothing about eletronics. In fact I don't like it much hehehe, I'm just doing it cos I wouldn't risk to pay someone to do it for me, but I really wanna play backups.
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29. July 2007 @ 20:45 |
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Do you guys know where I can get a list of CD TOC (original).
Currently I am satify with God of War to boot DVD9 and Man Hunt for DVD5. I just need a CD game with big TOC. Any recommendation? Thanks.
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David891
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31. July 2007 @ 10:11 |
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I just installed the mod, I only dont know so good how to use it (I heard wait 10 minutes and laser will stop). I´m Dutch and my English is pretty bad so to read the whole topic will take many hours for me, maybe someone can make a list with: how to use it, what to do and what not to do (things how ps3's get broken here). It would be very useful for me and other newbies with this mod. This would also prevent people getting a bricked ps3.
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pspwiimod
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31. July 2007 @ 10:26 |
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Originally posted by yuppix:
Do you guys know where I can get a list of CD TOC (original).
Currently I am satify with God of War to boot DVD9 and Man Hunt for DVD5. I just need a CD game with big TOC. Any recommendation? Thanks.
GODOFWAR is DVD9 dual layer, you cant use that to boot DVD5, it iwll hurt the laser.
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SupraGaz
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31. July 2007 @ 10:30 |
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Thats why he uses Manhunt. As that is a DVD5 disc as he says just afew letters after saying he uses God of War for DVD9...
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pspwiimod
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31. July 2007 @ 13:51 |
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Originally posted by SupraGaz:
Thats why he uses Manhunt. As that is a DVD5 disc as he says just afew letters after saying he uses God of War for DVD9...
my mistake :) btw will swapping within 3 seconds (while spinning) hurt the laser? Ive been doing that for a while since I dont wait for so long. havent died on me yet.
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SupraGaz
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31. July 2007 @ 14:20 |
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Originally posted by pspwiimod:
Originally posted by SupraGaz:
Thats why he uses Manhunt. As that is a DVD5 disc as he says just afew letters after saying he uses God of War for DVD9...
my mistake :) btw will swapping within 3 seconds (while spinning) hurt the laser? Ive been doing that for a while since I dont wait for so long. havent died on me yet.
No probs :)
Most people say it will but it isnt the laser that screws up loading DVDs, it a chip on the board under the BRD. I dont use it no more so cant really help you a great deal.
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grouik
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31. July 2007 @ 20:53 |
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hi guys,
I just wanted to submit an idea I had that could avoid risking the laser.
The following video [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdFPUr_-M_E&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Eps3hacks%2Enet%2F][/url]
shows how to make backup via XMB. As you can see in this video its possible to eject the CD while the OS is "frozen".
I am thinking maybe its possible to use the same technique to SWAP a ps2 game.
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David891
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1. August 2007 @ 02:14 |
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It is maybe a stupid idea, but here is my theory.
If tou make a switch on the power suply of the Blu-ray player (smallest thing you have to unplug if you want to install the mod not the one underneed drive), your laser and motor will stop and you can safely switch disc.
Probably the ps3 will crash or the game will disappear from the xmb, but also small chance it works.
USE AT OWN RISK, I'M NOT RESPONSABLE FOR ANY DAMAGE.
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ChaosEnvy
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1. August 2007 @ 07:19 |
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I have a prety simple straightforward idea that may solve the problem with burning out the lense what if u were to create a small motor mechanisim like device that was to hold a game in the drive all the time and spin it when needed and whenever u were to put another game in while the drive sucked the game in the perminant disc would be lifted up out of the way later today i think i will try to construct such a device i have prety mediocre electrical skills. also i have another idea for the device an another warning do not use the nyko intercooler it damages your system use the PS3 Air Flo Cooler by pelican it uses its own power suply which also has another plus that u can use the power from it to power your disk swap switch.
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tsrps3
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1. August 2007 @ 07:32 |
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Chaos, david and gruik, i think you guys should stop smoking crack. :p
No offense but your ideas aren't technically possible.
pspwiimod, yes swaping in 3 seconds damages the laser:
first the disc is still spinning so it could scratch the lense while being eject, secondo the laser tries to focus like crazy on a ghost disc and this most likely what kills it. tertio the laser doesn't recalibrate for the inserted backup meaning it's lifespan decreases dramatically.
By waiting for 10 minutes, the disc doesn't have any risk of scracthing the lense, the laser is idling so it doesn't try to focus like crazy and when you launch the game after inserting the backup it recalibrates for the backup. Really waiting is the best solution, 0 risks whatsoever.
Brazilguy, my swap magic 3.6 discs went back to the seller as i don't have a use for them. I can assure you they don't stop the disc spinning or the laser focussing while swaping, so it's exactly the same as booting with a large toc game.
Later,
TSr
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ChaosEnvy
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1. August 2007 @ 07:38 |
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i see my idea at being perfictly technacly possible it basicly makes the swap take less than a second i dont think that you fully understand it i think i may put up a schematical sketch of it later
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tsrps3
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1. August 2007 @ 08:03 |
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don't bother, i already know it won't be good for the laser as it won't recalibrate for the backup.
Later,
TSR
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David891
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1. August 2007 @ 08:22 |
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I just actually tried my idea to switch of the power suply from Blu-ray and then switch. When you turn it of, the xmb freezes, after changing disc, you turn it on again and the freeze is immidiatly over and Playstation 2 disc still is in the game menu. But when you start it you get a error (after about a minute).
I also was listening to when the motor stops spinning and I noticed if you stay in the game menu at the Playstation 2 thing, after 10 minutes the disc is still spinning (very slow). When you go to the photo/video/picture the disc stops spinning earlier and is stopped spinning within 10 minutes. I'm going to test this again to see if you can just listen to music while waiting and the exact stopping time.
BTW I dont smoke crack, but drugs are legal in my country :).
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ChaosEnvy
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1. August 2007 @ 08:24 |
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lol wish they were legal in mine but thats a good find for shuting off power did u create a switch or for trial and error purposes just pull the plug outOriginally posted by David891:
I just actually tried my idea to switch of the power suply from Blu-ray and then switch. When you turn it of, the xmb freezes, after changing disc, you turn it on again and the freeze is immidiatly over and Playstation 2 disc still is in the game menu. But when you start it you get a error (after about a minute).
I also was listening to when the motor stops spinning and I noticed if you stay in the game menu at the Playstation 2 thing, after 10 minutes the disc is still spinning (very slow). When you go to the photo/video/picture the disc stops spinning earlier and is stopped spinning within 10 minutes. I'm going to test this again to see if you can just listen to music while waiting and the exact stopping time.
BTW I dont smoke crack, but drugs are legal in my country :).
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David891
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1. August 2007 @ 08:39 |
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lol wish they were legal in mine but thats a good find for shuting off power did u create a switch or for trial and error purposes just pull the plug out
I gave it 10% to work, so I plugged it out (the thing with 4 wires).
BTW, I dont even have a switch. I used no switch in my swap switch mod too.
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grouik
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1. August 2007 @ 09:03 |
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hey david,
have you check the youtube video I posted? its quite similar in principle to your idea of turning off the BD. however its about unplugging the HDD, this freeze the XMB OS and you can then swap the disc without the OS realizing it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdFPUr_-M...3hacks%2Enet%2F
Just have a look you will understand what I mean.
I am not smoking crack either btw.
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David891
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1. August 2007 @ 09:52 |
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hey david,
have you check the youtube video I posted? its quite similar in principle to your idea of turning off the BD. however its about unplugging the HDD, this freeze the XMB OS and you can then swap the disc without the OS realizing it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdFPUr_-M...3hacks%2Enet%2F
Just have a look you will understand what I mean.
I am not smoking crack either btw.
Yes it is the same method (changing disc while ps3 freezed), just tried it and when I unplugged the HDD, the xmb freezes but the disc is still spinning so you damage the ps3 when you get the disc out with swap switch. Eject button works but I get the same error when I start the game as what I tried (so same method, only this the video one is easier).
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samhung
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1. August 2007 @ 11:44 |
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Cool, I guess no1 will need to install the switch anymore then.
Originally posted by David891:
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hey david,
have you check the youtube video I posted? its quite similar in principle to your idea of turning off the BD. however its about unplugging the HDD, this freeze the XMB OS and you can then swap the disc without the OS realizing it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdFPUr_-M...3hacks%2Enet%2F
Just have a look you will understand what I mean.
I am not smoking crack either btw.
Yes it is the same method (changing disc while ps3 freezed), just tried it and when I unplugged the HDD, the xmb freezes but the disc is still spinning so you damage the ps3 when you get the disc out with swap switch. Eject button works but I get the same error when I start the game as what I tried (so same method, only this the video one is easier).
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tsrps3
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1. August 2007 @ 16:55 |
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Originally posted by samhung:
Cool, I guess no1 will need to install the switch anymore then.
I don't. Anyway it's great to see that people are trying new stuffs!
Later,
TSR
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grouik
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1. August 2007 @ 20:42 |
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David can you elaborate on the error you are getting? Anybody else tried the hdd unplug technic?
Imagine if it worked.We could swap without opening the case and voiding the guarantee !
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