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PS3 Swap Switch Tutorial
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SpankyyJ
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4. June 2008 @ 00:58 |
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Ive read all post and still havent seen anything on this...
If i turn my ps3 on, and immediately take out the disc in it and put a new one in that I want to play, that will cause laser to burn up right?
What if the PS3 is turned off and I take the disc out thats in, and put the game in that I want to play? Im not talking backups at all here only originals.
I figure if the PS3 is off, should be fine if I swap the disc inside of it right?
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NeroErik
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4. June 2008 @ 01:37 |
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Originally posted by SpankyyJ:
Ive read all post and still havent seen anything on this...
If i turn my ps3 on, and immediately take out the disc in it and put a new one in that I want to play, that will cause laser to burn up right?
What if the PS3 is turned off and I take the disc out thats in, and put the game in that I want to play? Im not talking backups at all here only originals.
I figure if the PS3 is off, should be fine if I swap the disc inside of it right?
Thats right, if you intend to swap an orig game for another orig game, the 10 min rule applies even then, unless you turn off the system and swap. I think it will also shutdown the laser if you press the eject button then remove the disk. keep in mind the system still thinks its giving power to the motor, so weather you remove the disk yourself, or let the system do it, it sill prepares itself for an eject when you press the button. The only difference is the sensor is not working, so it cant detect you inserted a disk.
I'd say to be completely safe, you can shut it down with every legit swap. but using any eject function, weather it be eject with XMB, or the eject button should also work too.
do or do not, there is no try...
only the sith think in black and white...
these quotes confuse me, as the first is black and white and is spoken by a jedi master... is Obi Wan saying Yoda is one with the sith?? o_O
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mcoco
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4. June 2008 @ 05:32 |
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What kind of one switch mod are you using ?
the old method with a direct wire or the new method with transistors ?
When you press the ps3 eject button, the ps3 will know that the disc is out or that there is no disc (if sensor is disabled).
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NeroErik
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4. June 2008 @ 06:00 |
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Originally posted by mcoco:
What kind of one switch mod are you using ?
the old method with a direct wire or the new method with transistors ?
When you press the ps3 eject button, the ps3 will know that the disc is out or that there is no disc (if sensor is disabled).
I explained my mod earlier, its more of a modular mod, using a custom made dongle, and powerbox with voltage switcher.
when the dongle is plugged into my customized port, its orig functionality, when my powerbox is plugged in, its modded.
do or do not, there is no try...
only the sith think in black and white...
these quotes confuse me, as the first is black and white and is spoken by a jedi master... is Obi Wan saying Yoda is one with the sith?? o_O
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Nick1981
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4. June 2008 @ 20:25 |
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Can you use any blu-ray drive in the ps3? what would happen if you used one of those lg drives that can playback HD dvd as well?
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mcoco
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5. June 2008 @ 05:35 |
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You can use an external blueray/hd dvd drive but only with linux.
(cannot replace the original drive)
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mcoco
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5. June 2008 @ 14:11 |
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HERE is the new version of the modd,
feature added :
- only one resistance on the motor wire
- inserting a led that show when you're allowed to eject the disc (approximatly 8 minutes and 37 seconds)
When you insert the original disc, the led (DEL) goes ON and shut down when you can eject the disc.
The shematic :
If you see some errors (there are probably errors), please tell me.
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David891
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5. June 2008 @ 15:55 |
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Very nice made mcoco.
I dont think everyone who installs this mod is able to built your scheme (is a bit difficult), but for the people who can it's a nice mod
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SpankyyJ
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5. June 2008 @ 16:25 |
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So can anyone confirm, if you PRESS the eject button, the laser will stop trying to read the game and you can safely swap out games without burning out your laser? This is on the mod like original poster's mod with just the 1 switch
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David891
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6. June 2008 @ 10:49 |
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Originally posted by SpankyyJ:
So can anyone confirm, if you PRESS the eject button, the laser will stop trying to read the game and you can safely swap out games without burning out your laser? This is on the mod like original poster's mod with just the 1 switch
I didnt cut original wires and now my eject button doesnt work anymore (my battery sended power to inside of ps3 all the time, didnt knew).
So now I swap original to original: Press eject first, ps3 stopt reading and spinning. PS3 tries to eject the disc (but he cant) so then I use my switch top eject and works perfectly. This off course doent work with backups cause ps3 thinks you ejected the disc and reads security checks on new disc.
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xenepp
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7. June 2008 @ 19:45 |
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Just wanted to say thanks for the massive amount of info here, though someone needs to pick out the relevent info and sticky/lock it methinks!
I too managed to kill my original functionality with the 3 switch method, though I stupidly left the "ground" of the drive motor connected, thus it was fine in original mode but as soon as I ejected the original to swap for the backup, power from the power source was returned to the bluray drive and it was game over. Obviously, now I just use the switches to load/unload media.
I believe the only thing that needs changing however is the small "L" shaped PCB inside the drive which the motor power connector attaches to as it seems to have a few ICs on it. I recon replacing that (or whatever is on it) woud fix that problem and it'd mean armed with current knowledge we can fix our busted original functionality. I'm pretty sure it means buying a new bluray drive and harvesting needed parts from that however.
I also wanted to share where I got my power source from. I have a 60gb model with card reader and most memory cards (SD and Sony cards at least) use 3.3v for power. With this in mind, I traced the power lines back to a sensing switch IC (5 pins, 3 on one side two on the other, not official name!) I took my power from pin one of this (VCC IN) and the ground from the GND.
If anyone's interested in this method, just post a pic and I'll show you where to solder to.
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xenepp
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7. June 2008 @ 19:49 |
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I forgot to mention that my switch hangs out of the CF reader slot and the wires poke through a hole in the shielding of this. This way I didn't have to drill one hole in my PS3.
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tsrps3
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8. June 2008 @ 13:05 |
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xenepp, awesome idea, but are you sure the ps3 delivers 3.3 to the CF card port?
CF cards can support both 3.3v & 5v [ http://www.compactflash.org/info/cfinfo.htm ] , not sure what the ps3 uses..
Also pics of the IC you're talking about would be very welcome.
With your mod, closing the Card reader door would finally be possible even with the mod installed, i'm very interested!
I don't mind sacrificing my CF slot either for i'm only using Memory sticks.
Later,
TSR
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NeroErik
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9. June 2008 @ 18:13 |
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Originally posted by xenepp:
I forgot to mention that my switch hangs out of the CF reader slot and the wires poke through a hole in the shielding of this. This way I didn't have to drill one hole in my PS3.
You can also put the wires through the hinge of the reader door. Theres just enough space for a few wires to fit through and still maintain the ability to close the door. With that you dont even need to mess with current card slots.
do or do not, there is no try...
only the sith think in black and white...
these quotes confuse me, as the first is black and white and is spoken by a jedi master... is Obi Wan saying Yoda is one with the sith?? o_O
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xenepp
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10. June 2008 @ 08:18 |
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You can also put the wires through the hinge of the reader door. Theres just enough space for a few wires to fit through and still maintain the ability to close the door. With that you dont even need to mess with current card slots.
The trouble is if you are using the 3 switch solution the wires either risk getting severed by the hinge or just are too bulky to allow easy closing of the door.
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xenepp, awesome idea, but are you sure the ps3 delivers 3.3 to the CF card port?
I've no idea since I take the voltage from the Memory Stick Pro part of the circuit which by Sony standards must be 3.3v. The wires poke through the shielding of the CF slot since the is already a hole there (though you must be carful of wire placment so as not to get in the way of the door hinge) plus I never use CF. I just hot glued the switch to the tray of the memory card area since this way everything is reversable and discreet.
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Also pics of the IC you're talking about would be very welcome
I'll get some pictures up soon then (I'm ruing the thought of opening her up again!) but for now here's a picture of my switch:
Unfortunatly I forgot to poke the wires through first so had to remove a small section of plastic to get the switch through :) This by the way is a multiway switch that has three seperate tracks with 3 poles per throw so I've combined all three switches into one. Once off, it restores original functionality, or at least would if I'd not left the original "ground" attached to the drive motor! I'll be getting a replacment drive for parts to sort that out.
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xenepp
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10. June 2008 @ 08:46 |
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tsrps3 > If you are able to take a picture of your Memory Card Reader PCB I can just edit it to show you where you must connect your wires. I can do this myself but it may be a while before I get the chance to open it again.
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tsrps3
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13. June 2008 @ 14:45 |
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xenepp, here you go ;)
I'd rather sacrifice the CF port since i don't have no use for it. (i do use Msticks & SD cards...)
Thanks in advance!
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I'm leaving the ps3 open waiting for your answer, i'm in the surgery room as I type this! ;)
See you,
TSR
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xenepp
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13. June 2008 @ 15:34 |
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Here you go:
Overview of the Memory Card Reader PCB, area in question circled:
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This is where you attach your wires:
And to the side here is where the hole is that you can feed the wires through. There's a little flap in there, just bend it back and your set:
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And that's it :)
If you have any questions just ask, let me know how you get on.
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tsrps3
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13. June 2008 @ 15:53 |
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xenepp, thanks for the uber fast answer!
I'm working on it now ;)
TSR
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David891
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13. June 2008 @ 17:13 |
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I'm going to do that power source mod too. First I didnt wanted cause you cant switch when ps3 is off, but I relise I never switch when ps3 is off, and it has lot more advantages.
But I have one question.
On the picture there is some kind of electrical part where you have to solder VCC wire.
Will that part get destroyed by the heat of solder thing (dont know what its called in english)?
Or is it easy to soler a wire on it without destroying it.
Or isnt it a electrical part,
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tsrps3
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13. June 2008 @ 19:20 |
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xenepp, are you using the points you indicated on my picture?
Because there's a flaw in that design, I'm not getting power unless i plug a Memory stick in there!!?
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xenepp
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13. June 2008 @ 22:18 |
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xenepp, are you using the points you indicated on my picture?
Because there's a flaw in that design, I'm not getting power unless i plug a Memory stick in there!!?
You'll need to post exactly how you have your wires soldered then since like I indicated in your photo, I have no problem at all. The MS Pro slot still works as normal and the switch works without any stick in there at all.
Are your wires round the right way? How are they connected to your switch?
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tsrps3
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13. June 2008 @ 22:37 |
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i soldered exactly to the points as shown on the pic, ground on pin10 of MS and VCC on the exact part you indicated.
This will not provide power unless there is a Memory stick pushed in the slot.
In any case since i'm using the single switch method, i need to be able to remove disc when console is powered off, so this method isn't really suited for me.
Thanks for your answers and support though!
See you,
TSR
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xenepp
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13. June 2008 @ 22:48 |
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That's odd.
I don't know why you'd need to remove the disc in the off state but mainly, this should work without the memory stick in. Like I said, I use this without a stick in the reader. It's rare really that I do use it. Right now, I can't use the three switches I've hooked up so I'm in the same boat, I'm just curious as to why you'd want to eject the disc without the console being on.
If you wanted to fix it, just show me a schematic or explaination of your switch and I'll advise.
You know that if you press eject then start the motor to remove the disc the console will know the disc has benn changed though, right?
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tsrps3
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13. June 2008 @ 23:03 |
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I can only remove discs when the console is OFF, otherwise i must wait 8:30 for the laser to stop, just as if i wanted to swap!
I use the 1 switch method with slot sensor totally disabled. (disconnected).
Later,
TSR
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