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31. July 2008 @ 15:46 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Abuzar thanks for the confirmation. I consider you a fairly unbiased system builder, so that's good information indeed.

Two 4850's ?? Good for you sam! No wonder you're saying yikes when you look at your soon-to-be future scores!!
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31. July 2008 @ 15:47 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I was more saying yikes at the comparison to some of the older stuff. I've updated the post with more older graphics cards.

Your X850XT PE AGP has to be measured interpolatively as Oblivion wasn't in use as a benchmark when it was first released. Its score in FEAR is 23fps at 1280x960 with AA, the X1800XT PCIemakes 38. At 1600x1200, the X1800XT makes 32fps, and the 7950GX2 makes 65.
Finally through to Oblivion, the 7950GX2 makes 49fps at 1600x1200 with HDR, versus the 8800GTX's 71.

So in the same chain of tests, I'd put the X850XT PE in Oblivion at 17fps, 1280x960, and will now add it to the list.

Wow, your guess was nearly spot on! 'near the X1650 pro' you said, and it turns out it's 17 vs 18!



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31. July 2008 @ 17:07 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Nice work Sam! So my 3850 that is coming is about a 250% improvement over what I have now looks like. I copied and pasted the whole chart to my upgrade text file. Thanks!!

Originally posted by all you guys:
I know you guys think it's a waste for me to put a 3850 in on this agp platform, but I get this case maxed out, pick up shader 3.0, play airborne, become cpu - 3.2 p4 - bottlenecked, and pass the whole rig on to a friend or family member next year, or keep it as a spare. I'll double my 3dmarks probably. They're "giving the 3850s away" almost!
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Your call, really. You have all the pro's and cons, just bear in mind that, while not as bad, the 3850 AGP still seems to suffer a few 'quirks' like the high end AGP cards of old.

Also, DO NOT buy this version:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102730

That cooler is made entirely from hideousness. Honestly, it makes an atrocious din and doesn't cool the card properly at all.

This one, on the other hand is excellent:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161226


I must say, for finally posting the screenie, your response was rather 'understated'!



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31. July 2008 @ 17:19 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Damn Sam. Nice. You played all the way through? That's like my first shot except that I was standing up on the retaining wall - you found someway to climb up the hill! Nice. Except for the fact that it's so damn hard to get to that spot, having to play all the way through to the race with dog, that's an excellent picture place. I have a save just before where dog kills the strider, so I could match your position and shoot my own comparison shot.

But that would make it hard for anyone else, which is why I like the new spot better. So, in addition to that one you just shot, can you backtrack to the very beginning of [edit] Riding Shotgun, drop down in the stream, and shoot the island with the rocks and the single tree?

Here is estuansis' version, on top, mine on the bottom. He's standing more to the right than I am - pick whichever you prefer - maybe his, and shoot! Also please take a screen of your settings, such as on the bottom, estuansis' settings.






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31. July 2008 @ 17:21 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I have literally dozens of full-res screenies leading up to that point. Thought I'd upload one for awe value before I began. Settings shot following first, then I'll look for that exact location.



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31. July 2008 @ 17:22 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Yeah, my response was understated, because I was talking about your chart - I didn't yet know you had posted the screenie!!! So now that I know, BLOODY FANTASTIC JOB M8 !!!!!!!!!! I can't believe you played all the way through all that crap that chapter has in it!! LOL
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31. July 2008 @ 17:26 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Sounds good Sam. I bet you're going to have to almost print out the shot to try to duplicate it LOL Thanks for the info about the 3850's by the way - I'm about to order the card - my deal DID close escrow. :D
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31. July 2008 @ 17:32 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
As it happens, it only took me about half an hour from the Autogun, and I still quite enjoyed the exprience, only played it on Medium so it didn't get me too mad.
This image is Screenshot #60, my settings page.
http://img105.imageshack.us/img105/5605/settingskh6.jpg

Talking of the Autogun, ooh this one was satisfying!
http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/5258/...eautogunsh2.jpg



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31. July 2008 @ 19:08 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Why do I get the feeling you didn't like those autguns???? Lol
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31. July 2008 @ 19:17 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I don't know where to throw these pictures - I forget which thread I'm on half the time. Now that you found the original magic scenic location - the one that made shaff say "BLOODY FANTASTIC" I'm going to hereby post them. Top is mine at 1600x1200 shrunk to 700 wide, bottom is Sam's 2560x1600 shrunk to 800 wide which maybe will be the standard for this forum as I can easily go back and shoot mine from the place on the hill where Sam was standing. [i](Courtesy of photobucket from shaff, voila, so easy:)







Hmmm. I think I like my location better, because then you get nicer looking sky. Next time just shoot from right up on top of the retaining wall. You have a save-game over there, don't you????? (I KNOW you do.) Well, maybe don't bother, we'll all use that other [edit] Riding Shotgun one probably. -Rich

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Ahh, the ledge below. I'm on it, gimme 5 mins. :)



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31. July 2008 @ 19:23 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Yeah, last time I went back a couple days ago, looking for estuansis' river spot (couldn't find it) I waltzed all around watching Dog take that thing apart!

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31. July 2008 @ 19:24 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Ok, waiting
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31. July 2008 @ 19:30 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
yeah, sucks doesn't it? Don't spoil too much plot for those who haven't played it yet... :P

In other news, I think this could finally be it!
http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/1702/harvshotnl3.jpg



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31. July 2008 @ 19:35 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Your shot's opening now. Gosh - I keep forgetting I'm not the very last guy to play ep2. Should I hit edit and make that last comment a little less of a spoiler?
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May as well, just in case.



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31. July 2008 @ 19:43 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
fixed the spoiler

Ok, here's my shot, then your shot:




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ButBut, mine's the smaller picture! :P
For reference, my frame rate rendering the above image is 25fps.



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I did both of those at 700. But I have all the river shots (beg of [edit] riding shotgun) at 800. Are you still in the game? Do you want to capture the river shot? Here it is again, estuansis' version. (Make sure you switch to crowbar.) It's at the very beginning after the tunnel - the game gives you an automatic save game of course. Just leave the car and jump in the river - you'll come right to it. Estuansis composed it a little better than I - see how the dip in the hills is between those two other trees?


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31. July 2008 @ 19:50 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Resized to 1280x800:
http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/1330/harvshotgz5.jpg
Resized to 1024x640 and embedded:





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31. July 2008 @ 19:51 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
You know, you're right. Your shot is wider than mine - I could crop yours and then you'd be seeing it the same size. Should I do that to the full size before I drop to 700 for a better side by side - yes I think I should.
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31. July 2008 @ 19:58 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
This shot - are you sure it's at the beginning of 'under the radar'? - That starts indoors with the garage, and outside is the autogun. Once that's defeated, you drive through the murky water, past a few buildings, down a few roads and reach the trap house with the hunters. No river in sight, and that's half the section done...



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