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The Official Budget-Conscious Dream Machine!
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12. November 2007 @ 10:35 |
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Well, it depends whether you'll ever use more than 2GB of RAM. I would never buy cheap RAM these days, purely because the decent quality brands don't actually cost that much more.
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12. November 2007 @ 14:44 |
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If you dont use more than 2GB go with the name brand. But like Sam said good ram is really cheap these days so just go with that.
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13. November 2007 @ 00:23 |
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yeah i think so too...i would not risk it...if something happened to it...sorry for asking these questions...
you know theres ATX and BTX...which one is better and is micro mobo better or normal size one? i currently have a micro mobo...yes its small and save space but not a lot of SATA ports or spaces for other stuffs...
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13. November 2007 @ 01:01 |
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ATX is always better than microATX, but occupies more space. BTX was a kind of alternative to ATX and uses a completely different layout. However, ATX seemed to prove more popular and has stuck.
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13. November 2007 @ 03:40 |
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ATX is always better than microATX
I'd be careful with those absolutes, sammorris. The Biostar Tforce 6100 was, and is a better motherboard than many full ATX motherboards I've seen.
Your going to have to rely on brands for quality and features.
Here's what I've seen from reviews and personal experience. These ARE NOT the actual ratings or anything:
Top Tier Manufacturers:
-ASUS(best ever for AMD)
-eVga(what I currently use)
-abit
-Gigabyte(my favorite brand)
-MSI(the K8N-Neo Platinum is a great board)
-Intel
-DFI
-XFX
Middle-of-the-road:
-Biostar(the Tforce is a very good microATX board)
-Sapphire
-ASRock(I think they're the budget sector of ASUS)
-Foxconn(Could be lower, but their high-end boards are decent)
-Albatron
Bottom of the barrel:
-ECS
-PC Chips
-Jetway(Considered the worst by many)
-Mach Speed(Never released a good board, in my opinion)
That's just what standing I consider the different manufacturers to be in. But it's also what I've figured from personal experience working on my own, and customers' computers.
:EDIT:
I'm gonna throw this out here randomly... I consider a decent budget for a "budget conscious dream-machine" to be at $1000. This is about what most American families have to work with. I'm not sure about you UK guys but I'm guessing that it's similar.
You can put together a decent gamer for this amount and it won't break the bank.
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13. November 2007 @ 07:18 |
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yeah you guys are all right...(seriously guys just got the full Crysis and Gears of War games...they are so awesome...BUT i have to run everything on low!)
ok isn't micro ATX more expensive than ATX...Quote:
-ECS
-PC Chips
-Jetway(Considered the worst by many)
-Mach Speed(Never released a good board, in my opinion)
never heard of these brands and this oneQuote:
-ASRock(I think they're the budget sector of ASUS)
$1000 for a lvl 1 - 2 system...
$2500 for a lvl 3 - 4
$3000+ for a awesome rig baby!
thats what i think
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13. November 2007 @ 10:56 |
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I agree with all of those ranks except for Sapphire. Sapphire make great graphics cards. I know lots of people who've had Sapphire GPUs and none of them have ever had a single problem. Powercolor on the other hand, ugh.
The bottom of the barrel brands are all dire, but I personally would put ECS below the others.
As for the $3000 PC. Personally I fail to see how you could spend that much on the tower alone, you'd have to start including peripherals.
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13. November 2007 @ 11:28 |
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the $3000+ rig...includes everything...monitor, keyboard, sound system etc...
what is ECS...?
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13. November 2007 @ 12:14 |
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That sounds about right.
ECS are a PC part manufacturer - Elite computer systems. Their stuff is a bit cheap and nasty most of the time.
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13. November 2007 @ 13:34 |
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I'm talking about motherboard manufacturers.
Video cards... Sapphire is the very best for ATi video cards. While nVidia has more quality manufacturers(XFX, eVGA, BFG) ATi only has one decent one: Sapphire. Other companies make ATi cards, but they are usually of low quality and sub-par performance. Sapphire is where it's at for ATi.
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Detailed PC Specs: http://my.afterdawn.com/estuansis/blog_entry.cfm/11388
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13. November 2007 @ 13:37 |
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HIS make pretty good ATI card as well, but Sapphire are who I've always gone with.
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13. November 2007 @ 13:42 |
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True, HIS is at least equal in quality to Sapphire. And if you can get actual ATi brand cards, then your lucky :P Their cooling isn't always really good, but official ATi brand cards never seem to have cooling issues(figure that out >.> ). Though, the fans do seem to die a lot.
AMD Phenom II X6 1100T 4GHz(20 x 200) 1.5v 3000NB 2000HT, Corsair Hydro H110 w/ 4 x 140mm 1500RPM fans Push/Pull, Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD5, 8GB(2 x 4GB) G.Skill RipJaws DDR3-1600 @ 1600MHz CL9 1.55v, Gigabyte GTX760 OC 4GB(1170/1700), Corsair 750HX
Detailed PC Specs: http://my.afterdawn.com/estuansis/blog_entry.cfm/11388
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13. November 2007 @ 14:06 |
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Check this out
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LiCzq8ZG20I
One of the reasons I still use my old Enermax Liberty 620W.
I think the massive power requirements the companies give for video cards are just because any power supply below the recommended usually doesn't have the power on the 12V+. A testament to the excellent Enermax Liberty :)
AMD Phenom II X6 1100T 4GHz(20 x 200) 1.5v 3000NB 2000HT, Corsair Hydro H110 w/ 4 x 140mm 1500RPM fans Push/Pull, Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD5, 8GB(2 x 4GB) G.Skill RipJaws DDR3-1600 @ 1600MHz CL9 1.55v, Gigabyte GTX760 OC 4GB(1170/1700), Corsair 750HX
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13. November 2007 @ 15:06 |
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What can I say, you only need about 300W to run that system...
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17. November 2007 @ 16:55 |
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as previously stated, most people have around $1000 to build their "budget-conscious dream machine". My question is, will this amount of money be enough buy a system that can run, say..Crysis, at full settings?
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17. November 2007 @ 16:57 |
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No.
However, there is no PC currently available that can run Crysis on max no matter how much money you spend. You will be looking at around $1200 at least to run Crysis on high, though.
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17. November 2007 @ 18:13 |
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Yeah, I'd say with careful parts selections you could squeeze an 8800GT into $1000. It'd be tight. I'll see later what I can piece together and bring up a list.
AMD Phenom II X6 1100T 4GHz(20 x 200) 1.5v 3000NB 2000HT, Corsair Hydro H110 w/ 4 x 140mm 1500RPM fans Push/Pull, Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD5, 8GB(2 x 4GB) G.Skill RipJaws DDR3-1600 @ 1600MHz CL9 1.55v, Gigabyte GTX760 OC 4GB(1170/1700), Corsair 750HX
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18. November 2007 @ 01:27 |
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yo that will help!...
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18. November 2007 @ 12:43 |
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AMD Phenom II X6 1100T 4GHz(20 x 200) 1.5v 3000NB 2000HT, Corsair Hydro H110 w/ 4 x 140mm 1500RPM fans Push/Pull, Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD5, 8GB(2 x 4GB) G.Skill RipJaws DDR3-1600 @ 1600MHz CL9 1.55v, Gigabyte GTX760 OC 4GB(1170/1700), Corsair 750HX
Detailed PC Specs: http://my.afterdawn.com/estuansis/blog_entry.cfm/11388
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18. November 2007 @ 12:52 |
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18. November 2007 @ 13:03 |
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Or you could head to your local BestBuy and nab a 8800GT 512MB for 250. Also they actually have it in STOCK you know lol.
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18. November 2007 @ 13:10 |
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yeah thats a pretty good computer parts...and cheap...but the PSU...didn't you guys say that it need the correct amount of Amps?
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18. November 2007 @ 13:46 |
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You need a reasonable amp figure on the 12V rail, yes, but consider my PC only uses about 210W at DC. That's not a great deal of amps there...
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18. November 2007 @ 14:59 |
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hmm...ok...i have a question...i have xp 32-bits, i know that if you have 4gb of ram it only register 2-3gb...but does the system only use 3 out of 4gb of ram or is it using the 4gb but it only shows 3?
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18. November 2007 @ 15:32 |
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Since it doesn't recognize more 4GB it doesn't use it either.
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