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27. November 2007 @ 11:32 |
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It will give you better frame rates in SOME games. However, with crossfire that isn't very many, and the extra performance gained is never double, often nowhere near it.
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27. November 2007 @ 14:04 |
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Yeah. If you're going to be using dual GPUs, you want to use Nvidia cards. SLI is supported in almost every new game out, unlike crossfire.
8800GTs in SLI are the hot ticket.
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27. November 2007 @ 15:30 |
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Well, while SLI is better than Crossfire, I don't recommend either, for the same reasons as previously, they're just less severe. There is still a wealth of new games that come out and don't support SLI.
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27. November 2007 @ 16:05 |
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i think i know what you mean...
its basically the same meaning as most games/programs that doesn't support quad core...
some games perform worst when you have SLI...i wonder why...is it because the cards problem all the game itself...
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27. November 2007 @ 17:10 |
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ill have you no that in alot of games crossfire doesn need to be optimised for. the drivers do that for it. and 2D3850s are just about i 8800GTX for a lot less price:
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27. November 2007 @ 17:14 |
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In a lot of those games crossfire ain't doin so hot.
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27. November 2007 @ 17:23 |
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Originally posted by abuzar1:
In a lot of those games crossfire ain't doin so hot.
I think the point is as its to do with the drivers, a later driver will probably incude better routines for games. it isnt all about the hardware.
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27. November 2007 @ 17:50 |
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Originally posted by abuzar1:
In a lot of those games crossfire ain't doin so hot.
which is wh y i added them to show it dont work in all games, but then niehter does SLI, but the worht of these cards.
they are so cheap, yet some times beat the GTX and in one case beating the ultra!
if there ever was a budget machine needing a (or more) GPU(s), this would be it.
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27. November 2007 @ 20:04 |
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Yeah that makes sense. What I like most about them is people saying they give higher image Quality.
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28. November 2007 @ 00:39 |
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but it still performs better in crossfire just not that much in most games...what about HD3870...
oh i have 2x 512 ram...and i want to get more...should i buy 1gb sitck or 2x 512mb stick for duo memory?
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28. November 2007 @ 02:53 |
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Being based on the same architecture, the trend should be pretty much identical for the HD3870, but its performance (as a single card) will be around 10-15% below that of the 8800GT.
Then obviously don't forget the better image quality that the HD3850/70 provide, and the fact that they support DX10.1 while the 8800s don't.
Also note that the full version of Crysis performs about 10% slower than the demo.
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28. November 2007 @ 03:29 |
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28. November 2007 @ 03:38 |
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yeah this is weird...new technology but slower...how does that work...is AMD on a bankrupt?...
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28. November 2007 @ 03:47 |
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£900 of graphics cards. Not bad, but now consider that in certain games (Flight simulator X is one example), a pc with a single £170 8800GT will perform within 10% of that PC. Think hard about that.
Overall that PC probably 'only' costs about £200 more than the parts are worth. However, realise that a 750W PSU would be plenty adequate (there's £100 saved), and that a single 8800GTX will perform pretty much the same as the trio in a large number of games, then there's the fact that despite the whole immense cost of the PC, the RAM in it is only worth £35.
@GTR: not really, but the R600 architecture ATi spent so long on turned out to be a complete disaster, so they've had to try and make up for lost ground. The HD3800 cards are still R600s underneath, but heavily modified so they're no longer completely abysmal. They're priced aggressively low (the most powerful ATI graphics card is now only £160... it's usually more than twice that much) so they can at least compete with nvidia's offerings. However, the way that ATi make their graphics cards and design them I still usually prefer over the way nvidia does things, despite the hopeless performance gap between the top offerings of the two rivals. It stands to reason that the HD3870, whilst 'upper-midrange' pricewise, provides the best image quality of any graphics card you can buy today.
Think of the ATI's current market position as kind of like Intel's, when they made the Pentium D 900 series. They were still way behind AMD, but they'd tried to make good of a terrible mistake, and they came out with something that was acceptable, for it's low price.
The only difference is that the HD3800 is really in fact the better product, it just isn't quite as fast.
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28. November 2007 @ 03:49 |
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lol i laughed at him when he said he was buying it said gimme 1200 ill build you something just as good :)
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28. November 2007 @ 03:54 |
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Lol, did he not take you up on the offer? He's a cretin if he didn't.
1300W power supply, for pete's sake. I could run five of my PC off that, and I'm not joking either. Five of my PCs all playing FEAR would leave 50 watts to spare. Now consider that in the vast majority of the games which are a year or more old (which is where I spend most of my playtime anyway, you can't beat the classics!) my PC will get the same performance as his, and the money I saved on my PC earns me a 30" monitor, so I can play games at an even higher resolution than he can!
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28. November 2007 @ 04:03 |
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Im going around his house with a few of my old pc's in bits to let him learn about building , explain how a few things work, so he learns a bit about specing a system. he is worried about being future proof, i said to him there isnt such a thing lol.
as with that system when better graphics cards come out it would be sickening to get rid off over half the cost of the pc so you can fit newer cards lol.
all he realy wants is hd gaming, so i expect ill get the build down to around 600+vat. maybe quite abit less if he will wait til feb.
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28. November 2007 @ 04:20 |
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Well, with PCs it's pretty much a relative. How long do you 'put up' with old technology before you update it? The rich enthusiast will pass through every breakthrough component that comes out. The casual PC user may keep the same system intact for three or more years.
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28. November 2007 @ 04:53 |
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more like 5 years...but new technology just keep coming out...its forcing us to keep it for 2 - 3 years...
ANYONE kind enough to give a socket 939 AMD Athlon64 x2 cpu for FREE!
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28. November 2007 @ 04:56 |
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Lol hoff off, they're still worth a reasonable amount of money!
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28. November 2007 @ 05:26 |
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Originally posted by GTR35:
more like 5 years...but new technology just keep coming out...its forcing us to keep it for 2 - 3 years...
ANYONE kind enough to give a socket 939 AMD Athlon64 x2 cpu for FREE!
try looking on a site like freecycle, you might just find someone giving away a whole system.
http://www.freecycle.org/
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28. November 2007 @ 05:26 |
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lol...i can't find any socket 939 cpu's anymore in SA...that sucks...
ok how much is x2 3800+ and x2 4200+?...
@sammorris i'll pay for the CPU but can you pay and organize for the shipping to SA?...please...
yea i know its not allowed to talk about selling and dealing of Stuff...
PM me...please...
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28. November 2007 @ 09:01 |
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While I'd happily send a CPU off to you, you would have to pay the shipping as well. Internationally shipping something like that would cost tonnes, and it just isn't doable. Besides, it would be far cheaper for you to get someone from the US to do it for you. Their component prices are far cheaper than ours in the UK.
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28. November 2007 @ 15:35 |
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oh...you know anyone thats from USA?
thnx...
oh how do you identify if the graphics card is AGP or PCI-E?...
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29. November 2007 @ 03:57 |
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the top one's AGP, the bottom one's PCIe.
As for the US, a lot people on the aD forum are from the US really. I won't mention specific names because I don't want to rope people into this if they don't want to do it. Ask around, without making too much of a pest of yourself! :)
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