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sammorris

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25. September 2008 @ 07:12

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Double size floppy disks? This would have been a revelation back then, how come I never heard about it? :(

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25. September 2008 @ 07:13

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You're too young fella me lad :)
well maybe not quite, it was the early 90's. I still have my 'Super Wildcard' which is almost that old.

(and to keep myself on topic, you connected the Wildcard to a pc thru the parallel port) :)

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sammorris

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25. September 2008 @ 07:14

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Well, seemingly, but I've used plenty of 1.44s in my time, and if I knew how to get 2.88MB out of them, I would have thanked the person that told me very much indeed!

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theonejrs

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25. September 2008 @ 09:56

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sammorris,

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Well, seemingly, but I've used plenty of 1.44s in my time, and if I knew how to get 2.88MB out of them, I would have thanked the person that told me very much indeed!

IBM had their own format for their then new PS2 line of computers that were 2.88. BTW! That's where the PS2 connectors came into being, not with the Play Station 2! It wasn't the same format I could put on my 1.44s to make them 2.88s. Mine could be read on any 1.44 drive. Formatting the 1.44s at 1.66 seemed to work the best!

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rick5446

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25. September 2008 @ 11:30

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theonejrs. No its a 1.4, one of the holes is square (see through, the other is rectangle W/slide block down is solid/up see through)..Also I've never seen a 720 with HD stamp

Microsoft had a special format program to copy Windows, I'm pretty sure its the 1 your talking about (1.44 to 1.66)if U didn't have this U could not copy the 7 or 8 Disc set. Now don't waste time on correcting me on the disc amount if I'm wrong. Ya'll know what I mean. I think I've still got it somewhere

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sammorris

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25. September 2008 @ 11:54

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Haha yeah I know PS/2 isn't the playstation... lol
However, IIRC there were also VX120 120MB floppy disks? I remember electing the standard version over the 120 on my first PC back in 1999, and I'm glad I did, the VX120s didn't seem to take off!

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rick5446

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25. September 2008 @ 13:18

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Could this be used instead of a Floppy drive

http://www.supermediastore.com/apacer-ha...lash-drive.html

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25. September 2008 @ 13:27

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any usb flash drive can be used as long as bios is set to boot from it.

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rick5446

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25. September 2008 @ 13:31

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OK thanks

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Mort81

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25. September 2008 @ 13:32

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rick,

those usb flash drives will work with most newer mobos as long as the pc can read it while in the bios. you might dig up a manual for the mobo and see what it says.

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theonejrs

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25. September 2008 @ 17:09

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Originally posted by sammorris:
Haha yeah I know PS/2 isn't the playstation... lol
However, IIRC there were also VX120 120MB floppy disks? I remember electing the standard version over the 120 on my first PC back in 1999, and I'm glad I did, the VX120s didn't seem to take off!

Here's a list of all the different floppy formats over the years. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Floppy_disk The VX120s you mention came out in 96. They also tried a VX240 that formated to 240MB in 97. There was also 21MB flopticals as well. The cost at the time was just too high between having to buy a new special drive and the cost per disk! I keep a Teac Dual floppy drive around because I still see 5.25" floppies a couple of times a year where I have to transfer the data from 1.2s, or even 360kb to 1.44s or 720s. I've done that a number of times, and the dual drive makes it easy as it's two independent drives in one, but it's a still very slow process! LOL!!

Best Regards,
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cincyrob

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25. September 2008 @ 18:33

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getting ready to do a build for my mom in law. her Dell went south on her, told her i would build one for her for half what she would pay dell for a new one.... here is whati have for her. all she does is surf the net,email, some CD burnin. ect... nothing major.

GIGABYTE GA-EP35-DS3L LGA 775 Intel P35 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
Model #:GA-EP35-DS3L
Save $89.99

Update Intel Core 2 Duo E7200 Wolfdale 2.53GHz LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor Model BX80571E7200
Save $119.99

Update CORSAIR XMS2 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model TWIN2X2048-6400C4 -
Item #:N82E16820145034
Save $57.00

Update EVGA 256-P2-N742-LR GeForce 8500 GT 256MB 128-bit GDDR2 PCI Express x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card
Save $54.99

Update Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 ST3250410AS 250GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM
Save $59.99

COOLER MASTER Elite 330 RC-330-KKN1-GP Black SECC ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
Save Cancel $44.99 -$5.00 Instant $39.99

Update COOLER MASTER eXtreme Power Plus RS-500-PCAR-A3 500W ATX12V V2.3 Active PFC Power Supply
Save $49.99

Subtotal: $471.94

think i save even more getting some stuff at microcenter.

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abuzar1

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25. September 2008 @ 18:41

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If you wanna save some money on the video card, this will work fine.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127336

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cincyrob

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25. September 2008 @ 19:20

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nice little gpu there abuzar.... it wont break in half when installing???lol

im sure i can beetthat price by 50-75 bucks with parts from microcenter that i dont have to pay shipping and such.

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theonejrs

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25. September 2008 @ 20:58

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cincyrob,
You might consider this for an 8500GT. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127285 It's cheaper and has a better cooler. More than enough graphics for your MIL's needs! better than the Dell ever had! LOL!!

Best Regards,
Russ

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krj15489

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25. September 2008 @ 22:17

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@cincyrob

you could also get an athlon x2 and a 780g. that would be more than enough for web browsing and you would save some money.

cpu http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103211
mobo http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813186141

you could save over $100 using these parts.

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cincyrob

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25. September 2008 @ 22:27

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how reliable are the foxconn mobo's???

i havent looked into a amd build. i should and want to...think i will look up some parts for a amd build. well only need the cpu and mobo..lol
Russ i looked at the GPU first..lol i just didnt pick it cause it was the first one i looked at... it is much better than the one i chose.

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krj15489

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25. September 2008 @ 22:30

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the foxcon has alot of good reviews so i would assume that it is reliable. but you could always get a a board from biostar for $15 more.

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theonejrs

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25. September 2008 @ 22:51

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cincyrob,

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i havent looked into a amd build. i should and want to...think i will look up some parts for a amd build. well only need the cpu and mobo..lol

Check this CPU: Same price as the 5000+ and free shipping!
64x2 5200+
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103218
And this MB:
Motherboard BioStar TA780G M2+/AM2 AMD 780G
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138105

Less than $140 for both and you can forget the graphics card, as it comes with HD 3200 graphics on board. It would be much more computer than she's used to, and cheap too! Add $20 for a freezer 64, or use the stock cooler and you're in business! http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835185125

Best Regards,
Russ

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cincyrob

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25. September 2008 @ 23:05

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Dang Russ you should be a sales man..lol

i just think i will go that route for her.not haven to geta GPU i can get her a better PSU and still save money....instead of $489 it will be closer to $400... im sure she will like that.

seeing im not gonna OC it leave everything at stock.. wouldi need a aftermarket cooler? i actually have a ACF 7 pro i could use on it if need be.

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theonejrs

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25. September 2008 @ 23:34

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cincyrob,

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i actually have a ACF 7 pro i could use on it if need be.

If it's an AMD then a Freezer 7 won't work. That's why I mentioned the freezer 64! Me? I would get one and forget the Stock cooler. Less headaches! All I'm building these days for office machines is AMD. For everyday computers, you just can't beat the price. I've used the TForce boards for a while now and find them to be an excellent foundation for a general use home/office computer. You put them together and they work, every time! With a minimum of setting adjustments, you're good to go!

Best Regards,
Russ

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abuzar1

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25. September 2008 @ 23:37

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Yeah, thats actually a good idea! The AMD build with the 780G graphics is pretty good.

Of course when I think budget build I think E5200 and GA-EP35-DS3L which is only like 20 bucks more. But you WOULD have to buy that GFX card whic is 20 bucks more. It should OC like mad though :)

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25. September 2008 @ 23:56

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abuzar1,

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Of course when I think budget build I think E5200 and GA-EP35-DS3L which is only like 20 bucks more. But you WOULD have to buy that GFX card whic is 20 bucks more. It should OC like mad though

That's the whole point, these aren't being overclocked! No reason or need! Lately, the first thing a new customer asks is if I build AMDs? LOL!! I sure wouldn't be looking to overclock my Mother-in-Law's computer. Stock, it will be a whole lot faster than the Dell it's replacing! In terms of value for the dollar, AMD wins that one on the low end of things pretty good right now! Besides, $40 not spent is $40 saved! I also see the difference in price to be over $70 considering the need for a graphics card, and the higher priced MB and CPU! Away from Fantasy Island, in the real world, the majority of computers in the world, still aren't overclocked! We tend to forget that in these forums. I don't overclock customer computers, because I don't want the liability! I've made a few exceptions, but only to people with some knowledge of the workings in the computer.

Best Regards,
Russ

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sammorris

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26. September 2008 @ 07:08

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AMDs price cuts are absolute madness, there was a coupon code to get a 2.3Ghz Dual core at newegg for 25 dollars. If you're not an overclocker or gamer, if you can find a cheap AM2 motherboard that works with IGP, an AMD build just makes sense.

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cincyrob

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26. September 2008 @ 08:05

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hey what do you guys think of this PSU. its only 430w... i dont think she is gonna need anything over 500w

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817103942

im gathereing a AMD build now will post what i select shortly..
gotta get a burn in...lol

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