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The Official PC building thread -3rd Edition
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28. September 2008 @ 18:34 |
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Originally posted by rick5446:
I've got a 650 watt PSU, If U get a an average of what a kilowatt hr is and figure a 100 watt light bulb x 6.50. Mine Comp averages 20 bucks a month its mostly on 24/7
but even under full load your pc is not consuming what the psu is rated at so you can't figure it that way. at idle, it is only consuming a fraction of the psu's rated output and I would guess it is only rarely consuming even 1/2 of the 650 watts.
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28. September 2008 @ 18:38 |
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how the heck can anybody know exactly how much power their pc is consuming unless they put it on it's own dedicated electric meter.
Mort is absolutely right and that's exactly how tech sites such as Anandtech measure power, at the plug.
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I've got a 650 watt PSU, If U get a an average of what a kilowatt hr is and figure a 100 watt light bulb x 6.50.
You can't make that comparison and be right. A 100 watt light bulb turned on uses a steady power supply that can be measured, but a 650 watt power supply is a potential power source that fluctuates with demand. If your computer is idle then it uses less power than the 100 watt bulb, but if one is gaming it will use considerably more power, but probably no where near 650 watts.
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28. September 2008 @ 18:38 |
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28. September 2008 @ 18:42 |
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Whenever i know i'll just be surfing/checking forums etc i use one of my laptops, this one is a miniscule 65W, the others are no more than 90W. That way the Quad Core or Dual Cores are only on when needed. The Quad has 6 internal hdd's and 3 optical's and only a cheapy GPU but i guess it's not using too much of the Corsair 620W.
Utility bills are very expensive here in the UK at the moment so it pays to be mindful of waste.
Bills are sure different to when i lived on the river, back then i only had my Athlon 2800 machine with it's 192W PSU, a 3KW kettle, various other standard household items such as freezer, iron etc, (excluding the fridge which was 12v so ran off batteries) but a 5KW electricity 'card' only cost £2-ish and lasted weeks :)
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28. September 2008 @ 19:02 |
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U TORRENT Runs 24hr,TV Series,etc
I'm on the computer at least 6 to 8 hrs daily surfing & converting AVIs to DVD,Backing up my DVDs. All these really test my CPU & HDDs & Burners. With all this going on at the same time, don't U think my PSU is running close to full load
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28. September 2008 @ 19:31 |
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Originally posted by rick5446:
U TORRENT Runs 24hr,TV Series,etc
I'm on the computer at least 6 to 8 hrs daily surfing & converting AVIs to DVD,Backing up my DVDs. All these really test my CPU & HDDs & Burners. With all this going on at the same time, don't U think my PSU is running close to full load
None of those are exceptionally power demanding processes over all. In fact you could multi task them all at the same time and only barely tap into a 650 watt power supply. A large download file's demand on a hard drive is protracted and has to be measured by watts used over time.
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28. September 2008 @ 22:58 |
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Originally posted by Mort81:
how the heck can anybody know exactly how much power their pc is consuming unless they put it on it's own dedicated electric meter. there are too many other variables. the amount the a/c runs and how much you use your oven or stove top, and dryer (if electric) and even your toaster, will dramatically change your power consumption much more than how much you use your pc, what processor it has or how often it is on.
the power consumption of my pc is probably the last thing I consider when I look at each monthly electric bill. there are just too many variables and other appliances that make a much larger difference.
Mort81,
I couldn't agree more! The variables are mind boggling! All I can really do is look at the total consumption and compare it to the previous years. I guess it's like gas mileage in cars! Results may vary! Last year was our lowest power consumption of the last three years. Some of this is better habits, on our part. November and December always go over our billing limit ($96) because of the holidays, but all the other 10 months are below the limit, so come December's bill we'll have a $77-$80 credit for the year. Last year it was $79.33. If the AMD cost $50 a year more to run, it should reflect in how much of a credit we get back this year. Monthly power consumtion isn't showing anything different! I'll let you know in December! LOL!! I don't expect to see a $50 difference coming at all. Maybe $15-$20 at the most, and who the hell can tell exactly where it came from? Frankly I'm expecting the cost to be a lot less!
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29. September 2008 @ 07:52 |
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Your usage for other appliances will vary more than that per momth - if your bills don't change, then I'm going to say your provider charges you the same amount regardless of usage and only adjusts it if a large amount is left outstanding...
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29. September 2008 @ 15:01 |
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ok guys i kinda need help here.
I have a GA-945GCMX-S2 mobo, today i tried to overclock my cpu E2160 @1.8Ghz. It has a multiplier of 9 and defualt FSB200, and 2x1 DDR2 800 but the mobo only support upto DDR2 667, therefore it was clocked down. Normal vcore is 1.32000v so i wanted to see how far i can OC this CPU to at default voltage. I manage to get upto 2.2Ghz, it was able to load the windows, run programs. So i used Prime95 to test the stability of the OC, and after like a minute of the test/stress test my computer froze...so i had to restart.
Anyways another problem is when i increase the FSB to 267 so i could reach 2.4Ghz and also the vcore to 1.35v it couldn't boot keep restarting until it returns to default clocks...why is that so?
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29. September 2008 @ 15:22 |
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Memory speed needs to match FSB speed to a set multiplier. Forget overclocking on that board, it's a waste of time.
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29. September 2008 @ 16:10 |
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yeah i thought so too. So does mobo really effect your overclocking? I wonder how well can GA-EP45-DS3R OC?
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29. September 2008 @ 16:28 |
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Yes, massively. An Ep45-DS3R will overclock well, miles better than the board you have now.
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29. September 2008 @ 16:45 |
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good thats what i wanted to hear, and hopefully it wont have problems with FSb thats over 400.
since we're on OC, and i think i've asked this before but i've forget. What is the best way to OC? lower multiplier and higher FSB or vice versa?
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29. September 2008 @ 16:47 |
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I never gained anything from lowering the multi and upping the FSB, but that's because I never had the FSB very high to start with. For chips that go higher into the 3s it may be more worthwhile...
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29. September 2008 @ 16:52 |
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hmm, i see. I'll tell you what happens when i do get the mobo and Oc my e2160
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29. September 2008 @ 17:59 |
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Originally posted by GTR35:
good thats what i wanted to hear, and hopefully it wont have problems with FSb thats over 400.
since we're on OC, and i think i've asked this before but i've forget. What is the best way to OC? lower multiplier and higher FSB or vice versa?
i have that board, and if i had 1066 mem i could get way over 400 fsb. im currently at 423 mhz right now 846 on my mem... i had it up to 450mhz 450x9-4050. thats what i have had stable on this board and my E8400.. thats about max for my mem i tried 4.1ghz but couldnt get my mem to handle it 456mhz i couldnt do... but im sure with a little more knowledge than i have you might be able to get between 480-500 easy....
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29. September 2008 @ 18:08 |
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good, so it's a good board with good overclocking potentials...gald to hear some first hand experience
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29. September 2008 @ 18:18 |
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Originally posted by GTR35:
good, so it's a good board with good overclocking potentials...gald to hear some first hand experience
yup you can do most anything you want with it. except LLC and adjust the volts for FSB. im glad i got it... i think zipzoomfly has it right now for $119..
oh im pissed $99 after MIR.$119 before hand.
http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDet...ctCode=10008670
they are giving this thing away.. if ya get one it will come with F6 bios.. get F9 and no worries...F10 is out, but not needed in my eyes.
has a fix for vista..guess thats why im not worried about it..lol
F10 Bios
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29. September 2008 @ 18:59 |
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Originally posted by GTR35:
What is the best way to OC? lower multiplier and higher FSB or vice versa?
no need to lower the cpu multiplier anymore on newer mobos (P35/P45, X38/X48). they give you fsb strap choices. just my personal opinion but I would opt for an asus P5Q series mobo over a GB. they show actual dram frequency choices as opposed to giving you memory dividers/multipliers and the bios is more user friendly.
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29. September 2008 @ 19:06 |
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it cant adujust FBST?
how about CPU VTT?
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29. September 2008 @ 19:10 |
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Originally posted by spamual:
it cant adujust FBST?
how about CPU VTT?
it can do the CPU VTT cpu pll and all that good stuff...just no LLC and FSB voltage??????at least i cant find it any where..
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30. September 2008 @ 01:25 |
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30. September 2008 @ 01:26 |
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p5q deluxe or maximus II formula?
£10 more for the maximus II formula, but them id probably get the £20 NB water block for it aswell.
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30. September 2008 @ 03:53 |
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i'm glad i asked this question, and what is the difference between having dram freq and multipliers? I'm not an extreme overclocker so i don't think i'll be using the "LLC" settings.
@theonejrs lol, yeah Biostar TPower I45 is the wolrds best OC mobo, but is it better than GA-EP45-DS3R?
@spamual nah, i'm not going to spend much on a mobo, all i need is a mobo that supports the components i'm getting a good OCer thats about it.
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30. September 2008 @ 04:37 |
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Originally posted by spamual:
p5q deluxe or maximus II formula?
£10 more for the maximus II formula, but them id probably get the £20 NB water block for it aswell.
Yeah well, it still $30 more for the P5Q Deluxe and $100 more for the Maximus II Formula here in the US, and for an E8400 there's nothing better than that BioStar at the moment! A $169 MB, that blows away the "High Priced Spread"! LOL!!
That's what's so great about computer technology! Every once in a while from out of left field, Abit, MSI, BioStar and others come out with something really great. I guess they want to remind the "Big Boys" that they are still around. In case no one's noticed, BioStar makes some excellent high quality motherboards for AMDs as well! With on board HD3200, HD3300 or nVidia 8000 Series graphics that you can overclock! It all works in conjunction with the AMD780 and 790 chipsets which are designed to enhance and work with the Graphics! Good stuff! It keeps the Big Boys honest! LOL!!
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