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.BIN / .CUE / .ISO Frequently asked questions. READ1ST
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Eclipse7
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29. September 2003 @ 17:55 |
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Thnx!
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bogus
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1. October 2003 @ 11:17 |
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Hi everyone! I´m quite new to this thing but have managed to make myself some backups. What have been driving me insane lately however is making backups of PSX bin/cue files. Everyone is praising alcohol 120% but I find it to be a rather schizo program. Why?
Description: I had a BIN and Cue file (playstation1 game) which I tried to burn with Nero after selecting "burn image". For some reason the ultra edition did not want to do this so I tried alcohol 120%
I selected the image-burning guide and crammed it all onto one cd-r. After putting it into my PS2 the machine starts chugging like crazy and guess what? It doesn´t boot heh... (chose the slowest burning speed 4X and ticked the playstation box RAW DAO)
What´s really confusing me is that the backup booted perfectly (after a million of tries) when using re-installed Nero program. I suspect that chosing "Disc-At once 96 did the trick but WHY? How come that alchol did not work?
Managed to make a successful backup of another psx game with alcohol so this is confusing me a lot. Any clues???
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edgy
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1. October 2003 @ 16:54 |
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preator: (or someone else who can help me)
thanx for helping me before!
can u tell me how to burn files that have .rar and .dat? or can you tell me a website telling me about them.
Thanx
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Praetor
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1. October 2003 @ 23:45 |
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bogus:
I'm not sure on the ins and outs of playstation burning but DAO and DAO96 allow for a lot more special informtation to be burnt on a cd. Perhaps the game/console required such information.
edgy:
RAR files need to be extracted before anything useful can be done. Usually cd images are RAR archived (sometimes nested-archives too). So to get a useful file out of a RAR (or a bunch of them), grab WinRAR and extract the *.RAR file (if you have a bunch of 001,002,003... files, use the 001 file, i.e, the lowest one, drag-and-drop it into WinRAR and extract from there... the remaining files will autotmatically be located and such).
DAT files are VCDs i am not mistaken. If i am, then they are SVCDs. Simply fire up Nero, select (S)VCD and use the DAT file.
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bogus
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2. October 2003 @ 05:28 |
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Well now Í´ve done it. Nero has finally managed to duplicate my g21 chromosome...
Felt like experimentating and decided to try burning the Cue/bin to a cdrw which did not work. Then I burned the same Cue/bin on a regular cd-r with the same settings I used when burning the successful copy. Guess what? It says: burn process completed successfully BUT it does not work in my ps2!
WHAT am I doing wrong here???
OK the burn speed is 4X and can´t be altered for some reason. Is this why?
Or should I choose the "image recorder" instead of my CD-r,RW device???
This is starting to tear my poor gaming soul apart :´(
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Shoey
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2. October 2003 @ 08:21 |
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CloneCD is very effective backing up PSX1& PSX2 games. Some debate whether sub-q channel data is needed when the image of the cd is read to the hd. Try using CloneCD and burn RAW DAO+96.
You can find CloneCD 4.2.0.2 at out main website
http://www.afterdawn.com
Use the search feature>CloneCD
Shoey :)
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bogus
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2. October 2003 @ 14:10 |
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Thanx for your reply =)
I don´t know if anyone here have had the same problems as me though. The strange thing is that EVERY game that i´ve burned (either with alcohol, Nero (burn image), Nero copy disc (with Daemon Tools as virtual disc) has problems. Sometimes it boots up and is playable for a while and sometimes the machine starts chugging and makes boot up impossible. When game is booted the machine (CD drive) seems to "hang" and I´ve noticed some kind of graphical errors (very minor) in one of the copies. Also noticed that all this chugging is scratching the cd-r!
By the way my PS2 is a V.3 (any known issues with those?)
But hey everything is not bad... All of my dvd backups work flawlessy so either this is:
BAD cd-r media (which I doubt since one of my PS2 games on one of them works like a charm)
Bad CD laser (might be might be)
Too fast burning (well I can´t seem to get it any slower than 4X either in Nero or alcohol but maybe another program like fireburner can fix that or is my burner just to damn "good"?)
Can dvd-rips play on DVD-r?
Isnt´t anyone here ever getting "chugg chugg hickup chugg etc?"
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Praetor
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3. October 2003 @ 08:58 |
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Quote:
The strange thing is that EVERY game that i´ve burned (either with alcohol, Nero (burn image), Nero copy disc (with Daemon Tools as virtual disc) has problems. Sometimes it boots up and is playable for a while and sometimes the machine starts chugging and makes boot up impossible.
Indicitive of incompatible media perhaps?
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IMRANmel
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13. October 2003 @ 09:06 |
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i recently burned a 735Mb bin file and a 1Kb .cue file onto CD-R it burned sucessfully with Nero
however it doesn't play
not on my comp dvd player ( that jus flashes for a few secs then stops)
and my CD-RW drive keeps spinning her shit out of the CD but with no image or anything jus spin spin
wat do i do??
mEwZ...ExPeRiEnCe
mAkE wAy 4 tHe BaD GuY
MEWZONE (GANG STAR!!!!!)
THE GREATEST TRICK THE DEVIL EVER PULLED WAS CONVINCING THE WORLD HE DIDN'T EXIST!!!
AND LIKE THAT.... HE'S GONE!!
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Praetor
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13. October 2003 @ 10:29 |
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Sounds like you have a cracked-out out BIN/CUE hehe. Try this more general technique as a fix:
1. Extract the appropriate file (i.e., the big 700MB movie part) from the BIN.
2. It might be worth to check if your BIN is corrupted and fix it if need be (make a backup first!)
3. Test to see if the MPG/MPEG/DAT file plays on your harddrive okay. To do so, open up a software DVD player (i.e. powerdvd or windvd) and drag-drop the MPG/DAT/MPEG onto it and see if it plays. If it doesnt, stop here hehe
4. Use Nero's VideoCD or Super VideoCD compilation and burn that file you just selected. Remember to burn slowly.
5. Enjoy!
To check to see if your BIN/CUE has errors in it, first open the image with CDMage, goto the Action menu and Select 'Scan for Corruption'. Should errors be found you then have the option of fixing such corruption. Please make a backup of your image prior to correcting any corruption as the correction process may make the rest of the image worse off. Also note that anything that is worse than a 'slight' error should be taken seriously - even if CDMage manages to 'correct' those errors, make sure you test thoroughly afterwards.
To extract data from CD Images using CDMage, first open the image using CDMage (or drag-n-drop). Note that you have to correctly select the input parameters in order to open it (trial and error will suffice). Once the image is opened, goto the file(s) you want to extract, right click and select 'Extract Files...' provide the destination you want to extract to and whatever settings you desire and click 'Extract' (You can get CDMage from http://cdmage.orcon.net.nz/frames.html)
To extract data from a CD Image using ISOBuster, first open the image (or drag-n-drop). Then select the file(s), right-click and select either "Extract <filename>" or "Extract Objects". Specify the destination you want to extract to and click OK/Save. (You can get ISOBUster from http://www.cd-rw.org/software/cdr_software/cdr_tools/isobuster.cfm)
To extract from a CD Image with WinISO, first open (or drag-and-drop) a supported CD Image with WinISO, select the file(s) you wish to extract, right click, select "Extract" and specify a destination and extract away.
For information on burning VCDs with Nero: http://www.afterdawn.com/articles/archive/nero_videocd_guide.cfm
For information on burning VCDs with VCDGear and BurnAtOnce: http://cd-rw.org/articles/archive/vcdgearburnatonce.cfm
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vnostrom
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18. October 2003 @ 15:29 |
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How can i create an image .ccd (clonecd) from my hard disk?
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Praetor
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19. October 2003 @ 08:29 |
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If you mean to create a CloneCD image from files on your harddisk that would be extremely inefficient but.... doable:
1. Create a ISO/BIN image from arbitrary files from your harddrive
2. Mount the ISO/BIN onto a virtual drive (Alcohol, Daemon, CloneDrive, CDROM Emulator,e ct)
3. Use CloneCD to create an image from that virtual CD.
Step 1:
You can create a CD-image from an abritrary set of files using WinISO. To do so, (1) Start WinISO (2) Actions --> Add Files/Add directory (3) Actions --> Add Files/Add directory (4) When done adding files, File --> Save As --> Give it a name (5) If you need BIN/CUE files, Convert --> BIN to ISO
You can create a CD-image from an abritrary set of files using Nero and CDMage. To do so, (1) Start Nero (2) Make a DataCD with all appropriate settings (3) Recorder --> Choose Recorder --> Select Image Recorder (4) Burn as you would normally by Nero will ask you to specify a location to save the NRG (cd-image file). Give it a location (5) Open CDMage --> Drag and drop the NRG file into CDMage (if it asks you for 'method' of reading, select Mode2/2048... that should work... if not, fiddle around). (6) File --> Save As --> Give it a name (7) Default save options should suffice
Step 02:
DaemonTools, a FREE virtual drive allows you to mount CD Images and emulate various major protection schemes. This means that you can play a protected game even if it is still in a BIN/CUE or ISO format on your harddrive. For more information visit http://www.cd-rw.org/software/cdr_software/cdr_tools/daemon_tools.cfm
Step 03:
Extract the CD IMage with ClonCD as per usual.
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vnostrom
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19. October 2003 @ 11:31 |
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Thanks for answer my question.
I need an image of clonecd to manipulate it whit an anticopy soft (audio cd).
CloneCD has create a virtual drive on my pc, but i´m not understand how it work. However, can i put the target files on it?
Thanks again! :-)
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Praetor
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19. October 2003 @ 17:34 |
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1. Cant talk about specific anticopyprotection hacks due to the rules.
2. Perhaps the Audio forum may be better suited as audio topic quickly exceed my knowledge base
3. As for duplicating Audio Protection, i would recommend you use Alcohol120 rather than CloneCD simply because in my experience, CloneCD has never done a 100% perfect duplicate of an audio cd. Alcohol (and Blindwrite) on the otherhand... perfect every time.
4. What kind of protection is on the CD? (use ClonyXXL to find out)
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JediDuron
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21. October 2003 @ 14:07 |
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Hey I am new to this WHOLE thing....i have a bin,cue,tmp, and a sfv file....please tell me what to do so i can play this game....thanks
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Praetor
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21. October 2003 @ 21:59 |
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1. What game do you have? ALmost all games are protected and unelss your game is pre-hacked then to play it properly you will have to replicate the protection scheme. Visit http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/47284 to see what type of protection scheme (if any) is present for your game. The two major schemes are SafeDisc2 and SecureROM4.8x
For steps for burning SafeDisc2 see http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/23699
For information on how to Burn SecuROM and in particular, SecuROM 4.83: (using Alcohol120) http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/43802 (using CloneCD) http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/26771
2. When burning a SafeDisc2 protected game the important consideration is the model of the burner... some burners do better than others... some fail miserably... what make/model of burner do you have?
3. If your copy has been prehacked than you can just burn the image as it. Fire up Nero, close the New Compilation dialog box and,
Nero 5: File --> Burn Image..., Select the CUE and burn away
Nero 6: Recorder --> Burn Image..., Select the CUE and burn away
Remember to burn slowly or you wont be doing it properly.
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JediDuron
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23. October 2003 @ 16:05 |
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thanks a lot...that helped a lot... i had halo www.suprnova.org get the bin/cue it works
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-MaZe-
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24. October 2003 @ 01:35 |
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I've a small problem with .bin file... its dev-c3b.bin (Commandos 3, cd2). When I open it with isoBuster there is only "Track 01" file or something. There is no sub-directories, no files, nothing. just the Track 01.. i have tryed to burn it 2 times, but no luck.. i have tryed to open it with CDMage, isobuster and so on... How can i extract it into my HD.. please help needed! :)
Whepee =)
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Praetor
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24. October 2003 @ 13:04 |
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Could it be a fake?
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Rascalous
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24. October 2003 @ 17:18 |
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Hello everyone. I'm having a little problem.
I burned a copy of Splinter Cell (using BIN and CUE method)a while back and it installed and ran perfectly back on my old WinMe PC. Now, when i try to install it on my Win XP PC, it says "wrong volume is in the drive" durng installation. This has happened to two other games since then as well. Can anybody help me on this?
I think I used Nero if that helps..
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Praetor
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25. October 2003 @ 08:48 |
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Typically a "wrong volume" error simply means you have put the wrong cd into the drive. Aside from that, have you tried running the install right off the cd? (i.e., close the stupid autorun thing, open MyComputer and running the cd from there?)
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mactiddy
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25. October 2003 @ 09:36 |
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Hey I have a bin and cue for this game im backing up and i know that my CDwriter cant do the copy protection. SO i figured i do the next best thing and see if I could actually just burn the bin and cue as data files and then use Daemon Tools to run the game. Problem unless i "Burn Image" in Nero, the files are too big. Now i know that they would otherwise fit, so im kinda stuck on how to get them to shrink up so i can burn them. Any help would be appreciated.
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Rascalous
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25. October 2003 @ 14:14 |
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Praetor
Sorry, i forgot to say that the message appears after i put the second CD in, to continue with the installation.
Oddly enough, it then asks me to enter the first disc....i can choose 'cancel', 'continue', or 'try again'. 'Try again' does nothing (the message comes up again), while pressing 'continue' (with the second cd in the drive), causes installation to reluctantly continue until right at the end when the message pops up again.
I'm really at a loss.
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Praetor
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25. October 2003 @ 14:58 |
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mactiddy
You are correct in that it is the 2nd best method unless you want to get into emulation and such. There are two options (1) Overburn or (b) Use larger media. I have yet to see a game-image greater than 800MB so grab yourself some 800MB discs and you are set. Of course you could split the image into two pieces and burn that but you would need to extract it back to use it.
Rascalous
SplinterCell is SecureROM protected isnt it? Which means it is absolutely neccessary that you get the label name of the cd correct. This means that "My_CD1" is NOT the same as "MY_CD1". That is prolly the solution to your problem.
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JediDuron
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26. October 2003 @ 08:43 |
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I have a series of FLT files I got from Bit Torrent (they are supposed to be a software program). Windows tells me to join them up, but I don't know what to use. join16 or join32. If I use 32 then I get a joined file that doesn't have an extensuion but is just a file. If I use 16 I get the same name, but with an .xxx extension. I don't know how to burn this or how to use this software. Please help.
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