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15. March 2006 @ 12:35 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Soph,

Not disagreeing but I think slysoft recommends this setting change. Open dvdd and click on tools then settings then I/O. Then under interface select ElbyCDIO - Elaborite Bytes.

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15. March 2006 @ 13:03 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Mort

Elaborate bytesAGis just another driver like Aspi, Patin-Couffin, or SPTI but I don't think that it helps to skirt physical protections or for that matter improves over SPTI for ripping. If you can direct me to SlySofts spin on it I will certainly listen. Elby was the first to develop CloneDVD and Elaborate bytes.

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15. March 2006 @ 13:11 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Actually Slysoft suggests 3 particular settings for DVD Decrypter. Mort hit upon one. In Settings under I/O select either SPTI or Elby as the interface. Since SPTI is the Microsoft setting, I leave it on that. Under General, Check For Structure Protection should be unchecked. Under CSS, None should be selected as the CSS Cracking Method. Other than those, everything else can be left at default settings. Before I found the suggested settings, AnyDVD and DVD Decrypter still worked well together. This way though, one doesn't get warnings that aren't necessary, such as pack header warnings and other warnings specific to Decrypter. AnyDVD is now breaking the copyright protection and DVDD is copying the files to the HDD. I like DVDD for the task because of the included log and the ability to work with the files in different modes.

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Since Sophocles likes his where, Slysoft has the suggestion in the changes.txt in the Manual folder in the Programs, Slysoft, AnyDVD folder:

5.9.1.1, 2006 02 15
- Important: When installing this version over an existing
installation, you must reboot your machine. Otherwise the changes
made in the AnyDVD device driver will not have any effect!
- New: Added workaround for DVDShrink / Nero Recode "Out of memory"
error when copying Macrovision RipGuard protected discs with
menus, e.g. "Madagascar" R1 (US)
- New: Error zones on RipGuard/Arccos/PuppetLock protected titles are
now replaced with "valid material". 3rd party tools like DVDDecrypter
will now work better (no more "Pack Header Error" messages - another try,
this time it should really work).
- Note: To use DVDDecrypter with AnyDVD set I/O Model to SPTI or ElbyCDIO.
Set CSS Cracking method to none. Disable checking for structure
protection.

- New: Added "AnyDVD Ripper". This little tool repairs defective DVDs
while copying them to your harddisk. It can be started from the menu of
the AnyDVD fox icon. It can be started as a stand alone application from
the start menu as well, so it can be used even if AnyDVD is not registered
and the trial period has expired.
It is identical to FixVTS (http://www.videohelp.com/~FixVTS/) but instead
of fixing problems "in place" it copies the files to your harddisk directly
from the source DVD. It fixes the problems while the files are copied.
Some DVDs which have severe mastering defects e.g.,
"Menace II Society" R1 (US) can now be copied with all DVD copy tools
(elby CloneDVD, DVDShrink, etc.) Many thanks to the author of FixVTS!
- Fix: Hang after update check with some system configurations
- Some minor fixes and improvements
- Updated languages


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15. March 2006 @ 13:26 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I'm aware of the settings with DVD Decrypter it was slysofts recommendation that I wanted the link for so that I could review them.

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15. March 2006 @ 13:27 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I just left everything at the default and it has never failed...
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15. March 2006 @ 13:30 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
jdobbs

I also leave everything at default except for "enable speed read (Plextor) and it has never failed for me either.

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As I mentioned, I had no problems either with default or Slysoft suggested settings. Earlier, Slysoft suggested just ignoring the DVDD warnings that popped up. Then they made the suggestion for settings when they came out with version 5.9.1.1. Experienced users have more of an idea what not to pay attention to where newbies tend to get upset with warnings and ask a lot of unnecessary questions. Best to shut down as many irrelevant ones as possible. As jdobbs pointed out again, it works either way. Since it's no big deal, I just go with the preferred settings from Slysoft. Sometimes I suspect they have some insight into the workings of their program.

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Sometimes I suspect they have some insight into the workings of their program.
Agreed! But DVD Decrypter isn't their program.:)

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15. March 2006 @ 13:42 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
One would assume they know a little about it... ;-) if I ever run into a problem I'll switch 'em around.
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Agreed! But DVD Decrypter isn't their program.:)
Agreed! But DVD Decrypter is being used with their program. ;)

It makes little difference either way. As I said earlier, I suspect it's mainly for the warnings and possibly to keep DVDD from causing interference. As jdobbs stated, change it if a problem arises or one can follow the Slysoft suggestion to preempt possible problems. At least everyone should be aware of the suggestion.

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Agreed! But DVD Decrypter is being used with their program
And that changes things how? LOL

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LOL The part I later added.
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It makes little difference either way. As I said earlier, I suspect it's mainly for the warnings and possibly to keep DVDD from causing interference. As jdobbs stated, change it if a problem arises. Or, one can follow the Slysoft suggestion to preempt possible problems. At least everyone should be aware of the suggestion.


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15. March 2006 @ 13:53 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Note I said possible problems, because I've had none, other than those pesky little warnings that had no meaning. "ugh too many pack header ..." "logging discontinued..."

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15. March 2006 @ 13:56 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I know this is going to sound strange, but I have never had a warning while using DVD Decrypter. I've had some discs that it had a hard time reading but never a "pack header ..." "logging discontinued..." warning;)

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15. March 2006 @ 14:01 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I got a warning at the end of a disc once... can't remember which DVD it was. The message said something along the lines of "...on an unencrypted disc is unusual." -- I pushed the "ok" button and everything was fine.
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jdobbs,
Likewise, I just ignored the little warnings and everything came out okay. So far I haven't seen any difference in functionality.

Sophocles
It doesn't hurt to follow the suggestions from Slysoft, or not. LOL This little discussion isn't going anywhere. The users can follow the Slysoft suggestion or not. Their choice. We can note we haven't seen a difference in function, except those of us who've seen the little warnings. ;) Regret you missed those, but many of us have seen them and Slysoft even saw fit to comment on it.

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15. March 2006 @ 17:40 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hi,

Just wanted to follow up with everyone on the errors - the CCE encoding one, that I was having.

I deleted and then installed the newest version of DVDrebuilder, 1.08. I had been using 1.07 previously.

Once I installed the new version and tried the disc that wouldn't encode all went well without it throwing an error. So that problem has cleared itself up.

I am now trying the disc that was made 32MB too large to fit on a single layer DVD and will let you know in a day or so when it is done.

If that works, then I was hoping for some help making the process a little quicker.

Cheers, Mark
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... will let you know in a day or so when it is done.
Hopefully it doesn't take that long. I have a middle of the road system by today's standards and it does a 2 pass encode in about 80 to 120 minutes with RB/CCE. The Pro Coder and free HC Encoder are a bit slower. But nothing in the range of a day.

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15. March 2006 @ 19:24 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I am running about 14-18 hours to do 10 passes (which I think is a total of 10 or 11).

Mark

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15. March 2006 @ 19:31 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
why are you doing 9 passes? I seldom do over 2.

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15. March 2006 @ 19:39 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
i don't know, maximum quality for archiving
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Well, it's just a personal opinion, but a lot of those passes are unnecessary. 3 passes are usually considered to be the start of overdoing it with RB and CCE. I've not seen an improvement with the 4th pass, so I no longer invest the time. So, I suspect you could easily cut your processing time by about 7/10 without noticing a loss in quality. Give it a try on a movie you've already done and see if you can notice the difference. Better yet, do a blind test and see if someone else sees the difference. Remember to have only the number of passes as a difference, 3 versus 10.

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15. March 2006 @ 23:59 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
ok, I will try that. Any other ways of improving speed? Do you need my system specs?

Mark
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Specs would be useful. That has a lot to do with how long it takes a system to encode a movie.

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