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6. May 2009 @ 04:59 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
thats right, and IMO i prefer rockstar, the GTA series are a series, IMO only surpassed my God of War (and or the football (FIFA/PES) games)



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6. May 2009 @ 07:21 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by Rich:
Yikes!! I go away for a couple days and you guys blaze ahead 3 pages!! I'll get caught up this weekend!

Then you shouldn't go away for so long at a time... :)

You don't like the russians being on the wrong side of the battle eh? I do have to say Rich, it's been 64 years since 1945....
I've read a lot of relatively scathing reviews of the expansion for WiC, but merely on the side of amount of content, not necessarily the quality of it.

Left 4 Dead is AMAZING, I've probably played a couple of hundred hours of it at least, so far, and I've in total killed 30,000 zombies (You'll notice there's an achievement for killing 53,595 zombies, one more than the achievement in the 360 game Dead Rising, for killing 53,594, the population of the infected town)

Originally posted by Estuansis:
We don't rave because it is common knowledge that every game Valve releases KICKS ASS
Agreed, and then some.

IMO the over-saturation is only really a problem with the Dell 3008, not the 3007, and I've basically cured it with 85/80/82 on the colour settings (RGB)
The film grain is a neat little effect which when not overdone is a good mask to make already good textures look better than they already are.
I have never seen any pop-in of note in Left 4 Dead, so it must be your settings. That said, I max the game out at 2560 even on my HD4830 PC (though without the AA). It struggles a bit when you set lots of zombies on fire with a molotov, but overall is perfectly playable, even though it is rarely fluid.
As far as I know the max AGP aperture is 256MB, which will limit your usable Graphics memory to that much, but don't count me on that.
This said, at 1920x1200 without AA, 256MB probably won't be that limiting, at least not in Left 4 Dead.

Left 4 Dead was free for a day earlier this week, that is why it unlocked for that day without needing a CD key. LOTS of people tried it that day.
Amazingly, despite playing the game as much as I do, I haven't listened the developer's commentary yet, I will at some point.
Sweet, so I get to hear your mate Miles talking?

Omegaman: Valve is like Rockstar as A solid gold throne is to a chair from an expensive department store. The latter is good on the whole, but there's nothing to top the former.
Grand Theft Auto is good, but unexeplary IMO (even if GTA4 is better than usual, San Andreas didn't wow me that much). Max Payne, Manhunt, Midnight Club, all very reputable, but not all Grade A material. I think the best thing to come out of Rockstar is Lemmings :)
Valve on the other hand, Half Life, Portal, TF2, Left 4 Dead, what's not to like?



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Haha! Very well put, Jeff. I know you told me to get over my bit about "I can't play any games until my new build, boo hoo." haha. Man were you right.
As stated earlier in this thread. A lot of new games are pretty forgiving on older hardware. Valve champions this quite effectively. Imagine my surprise when I got a game invite from a friend still using a 7600GS XD

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Soo...Valve is like Rockstar right? Just another business producing video games? Heh heh. Remember, im new to the gaming scene LOL!
There are many different types of game makers. Some just develop the games. Some(like EA) develop their own and also publish for smaller developers. And some, like Valve and Rockstar, develop and publish everything completely in-house.

I'd have to go with Valve on that though. Wider range of hardware and video support, focus on performance as well as graphics, Steam less intrusive than Rockstar Social Club(seriously, WTF. why a content delivery service for only one or 2 games?), DRM free(as long as you pay for the game).

GTA4 was fun on the Xbox 360. I thought it was a pretty good game. But the fact that it performs worse than Crysis and looks crap doing it completely turned me off to the PC version.

BTW Rich(or anyone who cares), if you wanna play some L4D send me a PM and I'll give you my SteamID.

I dunno if it was newer drivers or my reformat or Valve updating it, but my hitching with multi core rendering and my terrible mic problems seem to have cleared up nicely.



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What they didn't seem to realise with GTA4 is that good textures make a game. The textures in GTA4 are average at best and are very poorly compressed so they EAT video RAM, and as a result can't be anti-aliased. The lighting effects just make it worse, as they are equally poorly implemented. If the game looked exactly as it does now, but was rendered in the same way other games, you could max it out on an 8800GT, I guarantee it. Also, you'd have enough video memory for the graphics card to render the details, rather than rendering most of the post-processing in software, so you wouldn't need a quad core CPU either.



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personally vice city is in my top 3 games. i guess being a console gamer for most of my life i preferd rockstar to vavle, and im sure it'd be the other way around if i was more of a PC gamer.

speaking of top games what are your top 5?

mien in no order are:

GTA Vice City (PS2)
Shenmue (DC)
COD: MW (PC - multiplayer)
Red Alert 2 (inc Yuris revenge) (PC)
Marvel vs Capcom 2 (PS2)

(man that was a hard list to make, there are so many more i want to add)



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Half Life 2 Series (PC)
Total War Series (PC)
Call of Duty 2 & 4 (PC)
Legend of Dragoon (PSX)
Conker's Bad Furday/Live and Reloaded (N64/Xbox)




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Super mario N64
Mario kart N64
Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time N64
GTA IV
Gran Turismo (any of them)

Sonic the hedgehog was also a BIG favorite. The music was quite catchy LOL!



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6. May 2009 @ 13:28 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hmm, tricky one (no particular order)

Super Mario 64
Ultimate Doom / Doom II: Hell on Earth
Super Mario Galaxy
Goldeneye 64
Gran Turismo 3: A-Spec

Favourite N64 Game: Super Mario 64 (R/Up: Mario Kart 64)
Favourite PS1 Game: Gran Turismo 2 (R/Up: Micro Machines V3)
Favourite PS2 Game: Gran Turismo 3 A-Spec (R/Up: Pac Man World 2)
Favourite Wii Game: Super Mario Galaxy (R/Up: Wii Sports)
Favourite SNES Game: Super Mario World (R/Up: Pilotwings)
Favourite Mega Drive[Genesis] Game: Puggsy (R/Up: Sonic the Hedgehog I)
Favourite PC Game: Doom 2 (R/Up: RollerCoaster Tycoon Series)

Favourite PC Shooter: Doom 2
Favourite Console Shooter: Red Faction 2
Favourite PC Racer: GRiD
Favourite Console Racer: Gran Turismo Series
Favourite PC Beat-em-up: N/A
Favourite Console Beat-em-up: Super Smash Bros. (N64)
Favourite PC Platformer: Not sure yet
Favourite Console Platformer: Super Mario Galaxy
Favourite PC RTS: Supreme Commander
Favourite Console RTS: Nah, come on, you didn't really expect me to have one did you?



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No one likes rpg's? At least there's bunch of classics, though I've hardly played any of them lol.


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In the past, I would say no, on the RPG's. However, Ive become a lot more open minded in the last few years, and am planning on giving a few a shot :) Like Final Fantasy X for instance. Perhaps even W.O.W.



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6. May 2009 @ 18:31 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I very rarely play RPGs.



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Historically I never played them either until one boring day when I decided to play FFVII. It turned out to be very good, one of the better games I've played. After that I picked up FFVIII and Crono Trigger and am planning on playing FFX when I have some free time.
To each their own though, just thought it a bit weird no one mentioned a single one (not even a category slot in sam's case XD).


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the only rpgs i have liked are the pokemon series



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Legend of Dragoon is an epically long and very enthralling RPG. It took me 60+ hours to beat and spanned 4 disks.

Oh yeah, Pokemon too. My Blue version is still my most used cartridge ever :P



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Hey been playing Riddick Assault on Dark Athena. I'm still working my way through the remastered Butcher Bay included with it as I've never played it. Even if what I've seen is just a remake yet, the graphics and performance are very nice. The lighting and most of the textures/models/shaders are very sharp. Not to mention it's fun to be Riddick XD



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I always liked pokemon as a kid but recently pulled out my Game Boy Color (should be COLOUR!) and played it. The gameplay was so SLOWWWWWWW I ended up losing interest and

Fav. games:
Jak II (PS2)
Gran Turismo 2 (PS1)
Need For Speed: Most Wanted (PS2)
Toca Race Driver (PS2)
Race Driver: GRiD (PC)

--can you tell I had PS1>PS2>PS3 then got fed up with crap ass PS3 and shifted to PC gaming
--also I think there's a big old site devoted to what games you own and your top 10..



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The PS3 may be a pretty terrible product, but I'll still probably buy one when Gran Turismo 5 comes out.



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Only reason I own one. It'll have broken by time of launch mind. Network has already packed up, signs me out everytime I start a race...



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Im a pretty patient guy. No doubt Gran Turismo 5 will either be ported(unlikely?), or be playable on PC via other means (LOL), in a relatively short time.

Though my brother wants a ps3 pretty bad!

OH!!! I almost forgot. I used to LOVE "Twisted metal!" Now there's a timeless game!





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What makes you say that? Gran Turismo games have NEVER been ported to any other device except via emulation.



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i love my PS3.



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LOL, Exactly! :D



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Emulating a PS3 on the PC is a rather long way off. The PS2 doesn't have fully functioning emulator yet and it's been out for years lol.
When ever a good PS3 exclusive comes out I usually just go to a friends place to play it. It helps that there aren't that many PS3 games to start with.


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any good ds emulators thatll run pokemon platinum?



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Originally posted by Red_Maw:
Emulating a PS3 on the PC is a rather long way off. The PS2 doesn't have fully functioning emulator yet and it's been out for years lol.
When ever a good PS3 exclusive comes out I usually just go to a friends place to play it. It helps that there aren't that many PS3 games to start with.

I have an unnatural amount of patience. LOL! Heck, Dialup hardly bothered me. Though dont get me wrong, I'd never go back LOL!



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