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19. July 2007 @ 23:44 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by Neverhap:
Do you have to write a BOOK everytime you post, and then go into YOUR constant history of your entire life?

So sorry, but could not help myself....IT IS SO LUDICROUS!!!

And I am sure I will be FLAMED for this, but this constant history lesson of us life episodes is totally absurd.
Has it done any harm? I find it interesting. If you don't, then you can ignore it. Now bring something useful to this conversation or sod off.


As for onboard graphics, you're usually very limited with your overclock because the graphics chipset has to deal with the overclock as well, and that usually causes stability issues long before the processor will, it's best to fork out for a PCI express or AGP graphics card in order to get high Overclocks, doesn't need to be expensive, just so you don't rely on the onboard video. Then, if you're serious about it, buy a better cooler than the stock one and you'll start bringing in the big numbers.



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Originally posted by Neverhap:
Do you have to write a BOOK everytime you post, and then go into YOUR constant history of your entire life?

So sorry, but could not help myself....IT IS SO LUDICROUS!!!

And I am sure I will be FLAMED for this, but this constant history lesson of us life episodes is totally absurd.
C'mon man are we all really clever? or do some of us like the extra's i like reading and he makes it much more interesting so now it's YOUR turn to say something productive or to quote sam
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Lol lies! I didn't put it in caps!




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Originally posted by Neverhap:
Do you have to write a BOOK everytime you post, and then go into YOUR constant history of your entire life?

So sorry, but could not help myself....IT IS SO LUDICROUS!!!

And I am sure I will be FLAMED for this, but this constant history lesson of us life episodes is totally absurd.
It made sense and it was interesting to see how what I needed help with could relate in many ways. Don't be judge mental on something you and only you don't find reliable or needed. It was just someone trying to help, and I ask you to do better.


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Guys, Guys,
Be nice! I sent neverhap a PM. I'm not offended and I can see his point to a degree. I just try and make the info better understandable! Not everyone can understand the way things work, especially if you are new to computers. I do tend to go a bit over the top sometimes, but I try my very best so that the explanation can be understood! I get far more compliments from people I respect then I ever do complaints, so no sweat!

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First off.....I know nothing about OC'ing. I just need to know approximately how much my CPU can be overclocked to.
It'sIntel Core 2 Duo Processor E6700 (2x 2.66GHz/4MB L2 Cache/1066FSB)

I have Thermaltake Case and Thermaltake MaxOrb CPU Cooling Fan System Kit

The motherboard is Asus P5N32-E SLI nForce® 680i SLI Chipset w/7.1 Sound, Gb LAN, S-ATA Raid, USB 2.0, IEEE-1394 Dual PCI-E MB

Are any other spec's needed? I don't know about OC'ing so I don't know what matters when you're about to perform an overclock.

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escalante,
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Are any other spec's needed? I don't know about OC'ing so I don't know what matters when you're about to perform an overclock.

We just need to know the wattage of your power supply, the make would be helpful too, and your memory Brand and specs!

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I've had one of my E6700's overclocked to 3.8 GHz on a EVGA 680i board.
Keep in mind that is with a Thermalright Ultra-120 Extreme cooler and a rather dangerous amount of CPU voltage.

I have another E6700 overclocked up to 3.7 GHz with a Zalman 9500 cooler on an Asus P5W-DH Deluxe board.

For normal operation I run both at 3.3 GHz or less.

If you have not overclocked anything before, find a overclocking guide and follow it.

Here is one:
http://www.cp65.com/news/20061206.shtml


I'm a newbie at this so I can't give you as much info as the other folks here will. I can tell you a few of the things I learned though.

Get monitoring and stress programs so you can test your computer after each overclocking step. I mainly use Orthos, CoreTemp, Everest CPU-Z and a few others.

I overclock my processor first before doing anything with the RAM. I keep it around it's default stock settings.

Be prepared to crash your computer. Know how to reset the Bios. My 680i board is very forgiving. I imagine yours is too. I usually just reboot it and make whatever Bios changes are needed so it stops erroring.

I write down the changes I make so I can refer back to them.

Always monitor your CPU temperatures. Especially if you start bumping up the CPU voltage. CoreTemp is accurate for C2D processors.
Don't let your temps get over 60°C.
I do not let my CPUs exceed 45°C for normal usage. +60°C will shorten the life of your CPU, so bear that in mind. Cooler is better as far as CPU life goes. I'm not going to have mine that long so I tend to run hotter temps and higher voltages. I haven't had any problems... yet.

Read a bunch of guides, take your time, increase the speed gradually and have fun.



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21. July 2007 @ 21:45 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
escalante,

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Are any other spec's needed?
we'll also need to know what ram you have. make, model, speed, cas latency, etc. a link to it would be helpful. I'm assuming you're using a video card too.

fasfrank.

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I write down the changes I make so I can refer back to them.

very wise and highly recommended.

don't expect much more out of your E6700 than what you can get out of a pre malasia made E6600. probably somewhere around 3.7ghz on air like fasfrank if it is an early binned pre malasia made cpu.

from what reviews I can find on your cpu hsf, it should cool similiar to a zalman cnps9500. only 1 or 2 degrees C less efficient.

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Thanks for all the feedback :). The power supply is 600W. I have dual vid cards: nVidia GeForce 8500GT 512MB each (SLI Enabled). Memory: 2048MB [1024MB X2] DDR2-800 PC6400 Memory Module. They're Mushkin Xtreme w/ Heat Spreaders.

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What's CS Latency?

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escalante,
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Noob question Alert!
What's CS Latency?

CAS Latency. Cas4 is faster than CAS5. See here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CAS_latency

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22. July 2007 @ 15:03 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Ok now I'm pissed. I keep getting the stupid Machine Check Exception ever 5-10 minutes while I'm doing something or nothing. Either that or my computer restarts and my primary master HDD shuts down and starts up again. I already removed the HDD and I still get the MCE error in the same time frame.

My computer is at stock speed and I re-installed the bios 9 times and refreshed the bios manually by removing the battery and putting it back in. I even under clocked the frequency from 1800MHz to 800MHz and I still got the message. I switched OS's from XP and Vista and I still got the message. I used a freakin Ubuntu Live CD and got the message differently in a terminal window.

I'm scrambling to write this as it shouldn't be to long before it restarts again. Is my computer dead?


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22. July 2007 @ 15:30 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by rvinkebob:
Ok now I'm pissed. I keep getting the stupid Machine Check Exception ever 5-10 minutes while I'm doing something or nothing. Either that or my computer restarts and my primary master HDD shuts down and starts up again. I already removed the HDD and I still get the MCE error in the same time frame.

My computer is at stock speed and I re-installed the bios 9 times and refreshed the bios manually by removing the battery and putting it back in. I even under clocked the frequency from 1800MHz to 800MHz and I still got the message. I switched OS's from XP and Vista and I still got the message. I used a freakin Ubuntu Live CD and got the message differently in a terminal window.

I'm scrambling to write this as it shouldn't be to long before it restarts again. Is my computer dead?

Although this can be any one of several hardware problems, in my case it was the PSU. Replaced it and life went on merrily.

HTH
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22. July 2007 @ 15:56 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
It's like a never ending hick-up. I'll check into the PSU issue. The error has happened 4 times since I last posted but for some reason it's calmed down. I'm gonna remove everything and plug it back in and check the PSU for any problems.

BTW, how much for a 500W PSU. My case was $89 so I don't know how much was the PSU and how much was the case.


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BTW, how much for a 500W PSU. My case was $89 so I don't know how much was the PSU and how much was the case.

Roughly about the same as you paid for your case and PS combined for a decent one!

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22. July 2007 @ 16:19 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Yeah, Agreed on that one.



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22. July 2007 @ 17:06 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Well my current PSU is a 450W so I wanted t get higher just to make sure I'm not using too much wattage from all my parts.

I'll look into it and see if I can get a fairly stable one if that's what the problem is. I don't think it should be the PSU only because this whole message started coming up after I overclocked my PC.

I've also never changed any of the voltages. I was afraid I would screw one up and cause a fire :P


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rvinkebob,
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I was afraid I would screw one up and cause a fire :P


That's not very likely! before anything could get that hot, the computer would shut down. When you look for a power supply, pass on the ones that don't give an efficiency rating. If in doubt, most retailers offer links to the manufacturer's web site and usually even the product page. Look there if none is offered. 70% and up will usually do you unless you have a power hungry video card or something like that.

When you overclock, the power demands of your CPU goes up. That increases the draw of power available on the power supply. Also on an older system like yours, components like capacitors on the MB break down more easily because of their age. I don't know how old your motherboard is but socket 754 is a couple of generations back. Newegg carries about 21 different ones compared to 22 for socket 939 and 140 for socket AM2. It doesn't mean you have a bad computer, just that the technology has eclipsed it.

I wouldn't put a lot of money into it but socket 754 motherboards can be had for relatively cheap now, but they won't be around for ever. The advantage is you can use what you have. Drives, memory depending on if it's D-Ram or DDR, and your video card if it's not an on-board. I just wouldn't spend too much money on older tech! A better choice for now is to get what you need to make yours work properly, if you can and save up to buy something you can build that's new tech! You will find that you can build a new C2D or 64x2 for less money than the AMD cost when it was new.

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I looked into buying a whole new set a while back and found it was cheaper than my whole current PC cost all together. But I'm satisfied with what I have, unless the whole thing is going to die soon. This PC was meant to be a custom bargain.

Anyway I have a new issue and a new thought on the reason for the error. About 3 hours ago, after it restarted... again, I couldn't boot into Windows at all. The error came at the boot screen and the whole PC just froze after that point. So, as I would when ever there's a boot problem, I ran XP in safemode and it ran with half of a surprisement.

I'm starting to think that maybe a driver interference is causing it but I have no clue on how to diagnose the problem. For some reason the error never came up when I was playing a game. It ran for as long as I played. DirectX issue? Such as, when it isn't running there seems to be a conflict yet when it is everything is as smooth as silk.

Also after clearing CMOS a second time Ubuntu never gave me one error and ran as usual. This raises the driver interference thought even more.


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Also after clearing CMOS a second time Ubuntu never gave me one error and ran as usual. This raises the driver interference thought even more.

You say it won't boot into windows! What does it do? Does it sit there with the blue line running under the Windows XP sign by Chance???

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No, it sits there with the blue line frozen. I used system restore and it booted into XP with full driver support and everything. Then I reset and then it froze at the welcome screen after you type your password. It just froze and gave no message. I think my computer's tired of handing out blue tickets :S

Well I think I should re-install because this is turning out to be a whole Windows XP issue seeing as everything else now works. I just re-installed around the beginning of July. I do fresh setups every 6 months to get rid of scattered junk. Ugghhh, backing all of the data up is the worst part.


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You have got rid of your overclock right? That's one of the most common crashes ever in overclocking.



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I think my computer's tired of handing out blue tickets :S

Well I think I should re-install because this is turning out to be a whole Windows XP issue seeing as everything else now works. I just re-installed around the beginning of July. I do fresh setups every 6 months to get rid of scattered junk. Ugghhh, backing all of the data up is the worst part.

How old is your hard drive? Brand, type and capacity. I suspect that it's IDE and not sata. Low voltage can cause corruption of your windows installation. I'm having somewhat the same problem with mine at the moment. I believe it was caused by a defective Power Supply. Do you have Everest or speed fan. If you do and it's not installed install it and see what your voltages are 3.3v, 5v and 12v. So far on mine it just won't let me run one program which I installed after this problem happened. It won't let me run Core Temp.

I got my PS replaced by Thermaltake under warranty because my 12v was only putting out 11.39 at the motherboard. This time the 12v is there because I checked at the molex plugs to see if it was different than the defective one and the 12v coming from the PS is 12.01v. The computer still reports 11.39v with the new one, so the MB is the problem. Specifically what mine was doing was the voltage would drop with a moderate load and the memory voltage would fluctuate. If it dropped to 1.8v, the computer would just freeze solid as minimum for my memory is 1.9v. I would have to turn the Power supply off to get it to reboot. It would also reset my bios same as yours, but mine's an active bios so fixing it was just a couple of simple adjustments, turning the Autos back to manual. My motherboard is going bact to GigaByte tomorrow or Tuesday as they feel there's something wrong with the voltage management so they're going to replace it!

You said something about a driver and that's the first error message I got that a .dll was missing. I tried installing windows over itself because it wouldn't let me do a repair, and that helped but there a couple of things in windows that don't work, so it's probibly corrupted. That's why I asked about the hard drive. It sounds like it is getting errors. Whether is being caused by the drive, low voltage or some other problem, I don't know but if you will get me the voltages, I'll have a better idea. You also might run chkdsk from the run line and when you re-boot it will check the disk for errors. Just click the start button, click run and type it in and hit enter.

Let me know what you find!

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23. July 2007 @ 00:28 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
It's interesting that a Power supply can corrupt files, but you're right, if the voltage isn't there to keep the hard disk working properly, there are going to be issues. Of course Power supplies can also destroy hard drives, as I've found out of my cost on a couple of occasions.



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PSU

speedfan reports my 3.3 @ 3.07

everest home and ultimate reports it as 3.3

not realy sure which to trust ill have a look on sandra and see what that reports.

Mind you I recently lost a maxtor diamond max 10 200gig when a chip on the circuit board actualy burst into flames lol

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