The Official OC (OverClocking) Thread!
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14. July 2007 @ 12:55 |
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Depends, if it's a cheap tool-less tray like mine with plastic inserts, vibrations run through that downstairs!
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16. July 2007 @ 09:25 |
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I have never overclocked anything before but i would really like to learn, I know that you can over clock things like the FSB, the cpu the ram and the graphics card, and i know where i can do this in the BIOS, i just want to lear how to do it safe and so that my computer will be stable,
Thanks for any help!
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16. July 2007 @ 10:36 |
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overclocking the FSB, CPU and memory all kind of merge into the same thing. You increase the FSB in order to overclock the processor, and overclocking the memory is a side-effect. Overclocking graphics cards is fortunately separate, and significantly easier, although it never gives such big results.
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16. July 2007 @ 10:48 |
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Originally posted by sammorris: overclocking the FSB, CPU and memory all kind of merge into the same thing. You increase the FSB in order to overclock the processor, and overclocking the memory is a side-effect. Overclocking graphics cards is fortunately separate, and significantly easier, although it never gives such big results.
so you start with the FSB? then move on to the CPU, and memory just overclocks it self when you increase the FSB?
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16. July 2007 @ 10:51 |
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You don't move onto the CPU, the FSB is how you overclock the CPU. That's how it's done.
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16. July 2007 @ 10:53 |
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so its just the FSB? and what about the multiplyer thing?
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16. July 2007 @ 10:57 |
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FSB (Front side bus) is the frequency that determines all the others, memory, CPU etc. Upping that ups the CPU speed for you, since it is a multiple of the front side bus speed. The multipliers of most CPUs are locked to stop you getting more mhz for free. However, on rare occasions they're unlocked, which means you can overclock without stability issues, to an extent.
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16. July 2007 @ 11:08 |
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Originally posted by sammorris: FSB (Front side bus) is the frequency that determines all the others, memory, CPU etc. Upping that ups the CPU speed for you, since it is a multiple of the front side bus speed. The multipliers of most CPUs are locked to stop you getting more mhz for free. However, on rare occasions they're unlocked, which means you can overclock without stability issues, to an extent.
how much on average can you up the FSB with out having to change any voltages/having a stable system, and when do you know to up the power going to the CPU and RAM
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16. July 2007 @ 11:14 |
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How much depends on how good a motherboard you have, and how lucky you got with your CPU stepping. You'll know when to up the voltage because either it won't POST, or you'll get crashes. Avoid going above 1.45V or so with Core 2 Duos. Also note, the faster you go, the more cooling you need. A LOT MORE.
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16. July 2007 @ 11:33 |
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mikeh0303,
Where you have your brand choices you might want to consider adding the models. Intel what? Asus what? And so on! It would help us help you, know what I mean. Some Asus motherboards don't OC worth a flip, Like one's with on board graphics even if you are using the PCIe slot, while others are excellent. Same goes for CPU, memory, PS. Those 4 items are the most important as far as info because then we know what you have to work with. The PS and it's wattage are important because some CPUs are very fussy about power!
Clock On,
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16. July 2007 @ 11:35 |
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I think he means whenever he builds a PC for someone, he always goes with those specific brands, it doesn't just refer to one PC.
I think rigidly sticking to one brand is silly, but there we go.
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16. July 2007 @ 14:18 |
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Originally posted by sammorris: I think he means whenever he builds a PC for someone, he always goes with those specific brands, it doesn't just refer to one PC.
I think rigidly sticking to one brand is silly, but there we go.
the board i am planning on overclocking is the exact one you have the p5n-e, i am also going to use the artic freezer pro, inless there is a good reason not to (also artict silver thermal paste)
as for my sig, i dont always go with thoes brand, they are just my favourits, I use different RAM, PSUs, cooling and some other stuff all the time, but if i could make my own "dream" build thoes are what i would use.
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16. July 2007 @ 14:30 |
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mikeh0303,
Quote: as for my sig, i dont always go with thoes brand, they are just my favourits, I use different RAM, PSUs, cooling and some other stuff all the time, but if i could make my own "dream" build thoes are what i would use.
I know what you mean. I always favored Asus motherboards and Corsair memory. So here I am with a GigaByte MB and G.Skill Ram! LOL!! You never know what the next best thing is gonna be. Last year everyone was buying AMD, now it's all about Intel! The good thing is there a lot more brands that have excellent quality components these days.
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16. July 2007 @ 14:33 |
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Well, so i thought. My recent experience with Asus has been less than convincing.
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16. July 2007 @ 14:44 |
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sammorris,
Quote: Well, so i thought. My recent experience with Asus has been less than convincing.
Just think, your recent experience was like a "kiss from your girlfriend/wife compared to what I went through with 3 of the same motherboards!
BTW, check out the v3.3 version of the GA-965P-DS3.
http://www.gigabyte-usa.com/Products/Mot...ame=GA-965P-DS3
You might want to save this URL as it has links to all the downloads and lists all the compatible CPUs for this MB! I just paste them into Notepad and save it!
Clock On,
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16. July 2007 @ 14:56 |
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Thanks, I may well use that!
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17. July 2007 @ 04:40 |
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a clan mate of mine has just bought almost the same setup as sams and mine, he has paid £500 for it, its a p5nesli, e4300, 2gb, ddr2 667, 8600gts, 250gb hdd in a silverstone case with a 600w psu. his too hits 3ghz on stock volts but it idles in the low 40s and god knows what it would do under a real heavy load. he wont leave it oced yet tho because he wants a better blower to keep it cool, cant say i blame him.
i have seen other who have bought it since who are happy with theirs too, i am starting to think that the ones we bought (my first one atleast) were made around xmas when the asus staff were having a party whilst making the boards cos the qa was somewhat wanting.
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17. July 2007 @ 04:48 |
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marsey99,
Quote: i have seen other who have bought it since who are happy with theirs too, i am starting to think that the ones we bought (my first one atleast) were made around xmas when the asus staff were having a party whilst making the boards cos the qa was somewhat wanting.
I thought yours was one of the most successful of the E4300/P5N-E builds?
Gina's never came close to those temps at 3.0 with the stock cooler! Even when running benches! When she installed the Freezer 7 Pro, she was prepared to bend the fin on the heatsink, but Her's fit with no problem with it pointing towards the rear! Hell, she complains when it hits the high 30s!
Clock On,
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17. July 2007 @ 05:09 |
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Eh?
Since when was idling in the low 40s bad? That's what mine does at 3Ghz with the Freezer 7 Pro!
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17. July 2007 @ 10:59 |
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I'm no longer gonna keep trying to overclock my processor. But now, I want to overclock my graphics card, an nVidia GeForce 7600 GT. I got nVidia's nTune utility, but the hardware monitor included with it, I don't know if it's a problem with my font, but I can't see any of the voltages on the 3rd tab. Now, what advice can I use before I overclock it?
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17. July 2007 @ 11:06 |
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Different cards give different info, so some info missing isn't always bad. All I'll say is do one test at a time. Overclock the core until it crashes, then go with one setting lower. Then overclock the memory until you get artifacts (use a 3d view to tell), then again, pick one setting lower.
Artifacts are pixels that are the wrong colour, for example random yellow specks appearing all over the image.
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17. July 2007 @ 12:17 |
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just saw this and as most people on here have one rig or another with dualcores this patch might speed things up like video encoding ect (that is if you havent already got the patch)
There is one for intel and Amd dual core cpu's and its not automaticaly downloaded through windows update apparently....
http://forum.notebookreview.com/showpost...577&postcount=1
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17. July 2007 @ 12:22 |
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As far as I know, we all have that patch, but it'll probably be useful for someone. it's annoying how unprepared game manufacturers were for dual core. Some 2006 games aren't dual core compatible and need the patch.
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17. July 2007 @ 12:29 |
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Ah ive finaly tried out a artic freezer 64, it was on my mates pc, but he has just moved to a media centre case and thus cant use it, well i installed it, and to be honest the temps were worse than my zalman 7700 using artic silver, and i never have used my zalman on any setting other than low, it seemed to work pretty good just passively(well min rpm) getting most of the cooling from the 12cm case fans trickling along either side of the case and the 12cm cpu fan. so i went to reinstall the zalman, when i took the artic freezer off, i looked at the base and how rough the finish was, so i took it upon myself to lapp the base, it took a good 2 hours , going from 400, 600, 800, 1000, 1200, 1500 and 2000 wet and dry on a glass chessboard to get it prerfectly flat and mirror finished, i reinstalled it with the same amount of artic silver and hey presto instantly a 5ºc drop in temps, i have just done a 2 hour prime session and let it cool for an hour, and restarted still a 5º improvement, and it should only get better over a few days :o)
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17. July 2007 @ 12:34 |
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My Freezer 7 Pro is as it was out of the box using AS5 and it cools my Core 2 Duo 5C better at full speed, and that's a good 40-50W more heat because of the overclock.
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